100xOdds
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January 16th, 2015 at 8:16:11 PM permalink
my casino is giving me $100 slot play or $125 in promo chips every week in Feb.

I am surprised at the higher value for promo chips.

my initial thought was take the $100 slotplay and play $0.50 8/5 JoB.
then again, $25 don't pass + max odds (10x)??


edit:
chips on even $ wagers only
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kewlj
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January 16th, 2015 at 8:21:20 PM permalink
What kind of promo chips? Non negotiable promo chips, meaning you keep them until a loss, I would take the chips. If they are the kind where casino takes chips win or loss, and only rewards you with winning wager chips, I would take the free play.
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Venthus
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January 16th, 2015 at 8:32:52 PM permalink
I second the above.

Chips if they're non-negs/"play until you lose", free play if they're promo/"one decision only".
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January 16th, 2015 at 9:08:34 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

What kind of promo chips? Non negotiable promo chips, meaning you keep them until a loss, I would take the chips. If they are the kind where casino takes chips win or loss, and only rewards you with winning wager chips, I would take the free play.



1 slight adjustment to that.

Even if the casino takes the chips win or loss, but you can bet them on anything (not just even money bets), I would still take the chips and bet them on a single inside number straight up on roulette. You get > 90% of face value this way.
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January 17th, 2015 at 12:23:12 AM permalink
As has been pointed out, It's important to know what kind of promo chips they are to make the decision.

If they're lousy like I get out here (taken on decision, match play chips), I want the free play.
If they're just giving you regular chips with your buy-in (which has happened at at least one place), I'll take the chips.
If they're play until lose, I'll take the chips.
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RS
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January 17th, 2015 at 5:31:46 AM permalink
Why would you care about the odds? And why $25 on the line? Depends on what the minimum is, too (kind of). If everything is $25 min, then you only got a couple shots at winning. If you just care about EV (and are OK with ending up with $0 on that $125 promo chips), then that's different.
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January 17th, 2015 at 5:49:52 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

What kind of promo chips? Non negotiable promo chips, meaning you keep them until a loss, I would take the chips. If they are the kind where casino takes chips win or loss, and only rewards you with winning wager chips, I would take the free play.



don't know what kind of chips, but they can be used on even $ wagers only.

blah.. i'll probably get the slot play. less hassle
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January 17th, 2015 at 6:16:21 AM permalink
It's free. I take the slot play and play it in the highest denomination machine that will cover the wager, ie $100 free play = 1 $100 pull on a $100 machine, or 2 $50 pulls on a $25 machine.

Hell, I'd never do that with actual money, why not take the shot on a hand pay? On a lot of them all you need is mixed bars to get $1000.
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RS
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January 17th, 2015 at 6:49:10 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

It's free. I take the slot play and play it in the highest denomination machine that will cover the wager, ie $100 free play = 1 $100 pull on a $100 machine, or 2 $50 pulls on a $25 machine.

Hell, I'd never do that with actual money, why not take the shot on a hand pay? On a lot of them all you need is mixed bars to get $1000.



That's ridiculous. Unless, of course, your goal is to get a handpay (and your goal is not to maximize your return/money).
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January 17th, 2015 at 7:06:03 AM permalink
Quote: RS

That's ridiculous. Unless, of course, your goal is to get a handpay (and your goal is not to maximize your return/money).



my objective is to play for optimum fun.

best game at my casino is $5 98.9% deuces wild. but I only get 4 spins with $100.

.50/$1 vp have the same lousy paytables but I usually play $0.50 8/5 JoB w/freeplay.
optimum between house edge and # of spins I get.
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