Why is Baccarat so popular?!
How is this related to Baccarat?Quote: CyrusVconsider the following analogy. 256 individually numbered balls are placed in a bag. You pick a ball, take a note of it's number and return it to the bag. Repeat the process a further 7 times. How often within 8 attempts will you choose the same ball more than once? Not even a disaster if you do, just a blip ;-)
is that what you are trying to point out?
Your analogy is an experiment WITH replacement (in math lingo)
a Baccarat shoe is an experiment WITHOUT replacement.
still, a fun math problem
I used pari/gp calculator
online is available too
https://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/gp.html
I wanted to know the probability of all unique ball numbers drawn.
then we can subtract from 1 to get an answer.
(that skips the chances of more than one number being drawn more than 1 time)
the chance it does NOT happen
(10:13) gp > x=prod(n=1,8,(256-(n-1))/256);
(10:13) gp > x
%2 = 4032627000373125/4503599627370496
(10:13) gp >
(10:13) gp > x=prod(n=1,8,(256-(n-1))/256.);
(10:13) gp > x
%4 = 0.89542306910786462204043800738872960210
that it does happen
(10:13) gp > 1-x
%5 = 0.10457693089213537795956199261127039790
what to do with this knowledge?
how about watch some football
as to the OP
Baccarat is popular because of (the many) superstitions by the majority of those that play it all over the world and the belief - not in luck - but in fate
do we really want to talk about why the #4 is BAD and the #8 is GOOD
Baccarat brings in Billions for the worlds' casinos from a certain 'class of players'
that have already been named
Quote: CyrusVBaccarat is a wonderful game, offering the lowest edge in a casino unless you play BJ perfectly every hand or are counting. When you are able to achieve 30+ consecutive winning sessions inside 6 weeks, turning $2k into over $40k during the process. I can confirm it is more than just a simple guessing game dependant on luck. Luck can be applied to an individual hand, winning 9-8 perhaps.
No, it's just luck. 30+ consecutive winning sessions is nothing. Turing $2K into over $40K isn't impressive. Any moderately lucky people can do it. The thing is, it's impossible to do it consistently because it's just luck. Otherwise, why don't you turn $40K into $800K every 6 weeks? Have you tried doing that?
Fair enough, but doesn't the popularity of pai gow, a game of both skill and chance, kind of weaken this argument?
Quote: 7crapsHow is this related to Baccarat?
I wanted to know the probability of all unique ball numbers drawn.
then we can subtract from 1 to get an answer.
(that skips the chances of more than one number being drawn more than 1 time)
That was kinda my point, the chance of one number being drawn more than once within 8 trials.
Don't really wish to get drawn into to endless back and forth debate with the rest of the comments. You have your opinion and belief, I have mine, they are not going to change. Nothing to be achieved except a waste of energy engaging further, when I could be doing more productive things such as hot stepping to the bank to deposit last nights profit.
Bye for now..
Quote: 7crapsHow is this related to Baccarat?
is that what you are trying to point out?
Your analogy is an experiment WITH replacement (in math lingo)
a Baccarat shoe is an experiment WITHOUT replacement.
still, a fun math problem
I used pari/gp calculator
online is available too
https://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/gp.html
I wanted to know the probability of all unique ball numbers drawn.
then we can subtract from 1 to get an answer.
(that skips the chances of more than one number being drawn more than 1 time)the chance it does NOT happen
(10:13) gp > x=prod(n=1,8,(256-(n-1))/256);
(10:13) gp > x
%2 = 4032627000373125/4503599627370496
(10:13) gp >
(10:13) gp > x=prod(n=1,8,(256-(n-1))/256.);
(10:13) gp > x
%4 = 0.89542306910786462204043800738872960210
that it does happen
(10:13) gp > 1-x
%5 = 0.10457693089213537795956199261127039790
what to do with this knowledge?
how about watch some football
as to the OP
Baccarat is popular because of (the many) superstitions by the majority of those that play it all over the world and the belief - not in luck - but in fate
do we really want to talk about why the #4 is BAD and the #8 is GOOD
Baccarat brings in Billions for the worlds' casinos from a certain 'class of players'
that have already been named
At a guess he runs an 8 step martingale (hence the 1 in 256). And he goes for 8 wins a session (hence the drawing 8 balls).
Quote: CyrusVThat was kinda my point, the chance of one number being drawn more than once within 8 trials.
Don't really wish to get drawn into to endless back and forth debate with the rest of the comments. You have your opinion and belief, I have mine, they are not going to change. Nothing to be achieved except a waste of energy engaging further, when I could be doing more productive things such as hot stepping to the bank to deposit last nights profit.
Bye for now..
Math is not an opinion or a belief system.
Quote: CyrusVThat was kinda my point, the chance of one number being drawn more than once within 8 trials.
Don't really wish to get drawn into to endless back and forth debate with the rest of the comments. You have your opinion and belief, I have mine, they are not going to change. Nothing to be achieved except a waste of energy engaging further, when I could be doing more productive things such as hot stepping to the bank to deposit last nights profit.
Bye for now..
You play in a way you enjoy, and you made money on it. That's gambling entertainment at its best! Enjoy. Sincerely.
Quote: AlexRWhile we're resurrecting this thread, I have a question on the topic I've been meaning to ask for a while. The assertion is often made that Asian gamblers generally prefer baccarat because the outcome, being predestined but unknown, is an instrument of fate.
Fair enough, but doesn't the popularity of pai gow, a game of both skill and chance, kind of weaken this argument?
Pai Gow is not even remotely as popular as Baccarat in Asian countries.
Quote: CyrusVThat was kinda my point, the chance of one number being drawn more than once within 8 trials.
Don't really wish to get drawn into to endless back and forth debate with the rest of the comments. You have your opinion and belief, I have mine, they are not going to change. Nothing to be achieved except a waste of energy engaging further, when I could be doing more productive things such as hot stepping to the bank to deposit last nights profit.
Bye for now..
If you understand probability, you should understand that you just have been lucky. The chance of losing 8 or more than 8 rounds in a row isn't high, but it does happen from time to time. As for your question, it has already been answered. The chance of any number being drawn is equal. Anyway, enjoy your luck while it lasts.
Seriously, please.....Quote: unJonAt a guess he runs an 8 step martingale (hence the 1 in 256). And he goes for 8 wins a session (hence the drawing 8 balls).
Quote: BlackjackLoverIf you understand probability, you should understand that you just have been lucky. The chance of losing 8 or more than 8 rounds in a row isn't high, but it does happen from time to time. As for your question, it has already been answered. The chance of any number being drawn is equal.
I suggest we take Baccarat out of the equation.
Forget this losing 8 rounds in a row, I certainly didn't mention that.
Yes, totally understand the odds of any number being drawn is equal (thanks), which is 1 in 256. I wrongly assumed that the chance of the same number being drawn TWICE inside 8 trials might of had an impact, obviously this isn't the case (diminishing probability?). This is why I value this site.
