Understood. Not sure exactly how Ill proceed, I'm not to keen on anyone contacting casinos on my behalf, I prefer to remain anonymous to them.Quote: ohiovegasguyAxelWolf,
I will offer the same challenge to you.
Brad
I have a question, how long does it take to get a card under the normal process?
Quote: AxelWolfUnderstood. Not sure exactly how Ill proceed, I'm not to keen on anyone contacting casinos on my behalf, I prefer to remain anonymous to them.
I have a question, how long does it take to get a card under the normal process?
AxelWolf,
Cards ship out in 2-3 business days via USPS. The offer is there let me know.
From there, Vegas Rover was formed. During the funding process, Brad would actually berate people who did not sign up to pay $50 for a deals card that at that time, had zero actual deals. The plan was to secure the funding and THEN go to Vegas to approach casinos for deals. So we sat there for weeks and weeks watching people get told that they were ungrateful for all the free advice Brad had given them, sat through the endless guilt trips, sat and watched Brad play the victim about how he spent $5k of his own money on the group meet (that people were charged to attend) and no one cares enough to fund his company. How does someone who is constantly crying about being unemployed have $5k at all, let alone $5k to drop on a meet for people he had never met outside of Facebook? This is so suspicious.
Also, a choice quote during this line of guilt tripping people to pony up and donate for a deals card that at the time had ZERO announced deals, was "Rover loves you, but do you love Rover?" Barf.
Brad's group actually took a collection and bought him a flight to Vegas because they felt so bad for him not being able to afford a plane ticket. So he has $5k to lay out (for what, I am not sure and I know better than to ask) then to later guilt the people who attended the meets (and paid entry fees to do so) to pay it back by way of joining his crowdfunding. But he cannot afford a $300 flight. So suspicious.
Then came the threats of ending the Facebook page that people liked to gab on, if more people did not donate. There was also a threat to end the meets entirely because Brad could no longer afford them if people did not donate, but yet the donations were supposed to be to get the deals card off the ground. Not for meets? So confusing.
If anyone dared to ask any question, they were banned. People were being asked to blindly donate $50-$500 without so much as ONE deal listed. No questions were allowed.
In addition to that, there seems to be a lot of empty threats and insane exaggerations going on. Some things that appeared in this very thread were John referring to a "ring of extortionists' and "cyber terrorism." Exaggerate much? When all the dirt came out, they could not control the amount of people asking questions so they went the "our team of lawyers is working on the slander" route. Thing is though, even if you were sitting in a bar next to a blacked out guy who was accepted to law school but had not yet started, even he would be able to tell you that slander is spoken word. The term that Vegas Rover would have actually used if they had ever talked to a lawyer is "libel".
So basically, the lawyer stuff was just to detract from the issue. See also, the FBI threat mentioned in here. It never happened. The FBI is never going to investigate someone asking for a Vegas Rover pillowcase and $3k. The threshold for investigations starts at $100k, which John and Brad would know had they actually talked to the FBI instead of simply lying about it. There is a reason they never answer the request for the case number. See:
Somewhere in here, John Moura claims that they have thousands of customers using their cards daily. Again with the exaggeration. These are things that could be backed up by fact and simply are not. Whoever in this thread who is becoming a new member, you will have access to the Vegas Rover website. You do not need to tell me anything but take a peak for yourself and see if you can find these thousands of members using their cards daily. Look at the member list. Look at the message board, see that there are never any posts because no one is engaging there. In this thread John Moura claims he wants to become active on this board. He is not even active on his own board. So many discrepancies come flying from these two. It never ends.
One more thing that has always irked me. Somewhere in this thread, someone posted that they saved $500 with their deals card. No matter how many times I look at the deals list, I cannot see where that amount comes from. I want to see an itemized list. But the problem is that if I ask on any Rover related board, the question gets deleted and I get banned. If it happens on a forum Brad cannot control, I get called a troll and the question goes unanswered.
Another thing of note about this $500 savings is that the person claiming it, is an admin for Vegas Rover and had been for at least a year before the deals card ever existed. So first comes the friendship and bond, then comes the claim for a savings amount that no one else can make the math work on. I am not even sure the guy is flat out lying. He just may be doing creative math. Like if you go to Vegas with $1k and lose it all, some people do the "well my room and meals were comped so I only really lost $500" No you didn't, you lost $1000.
As far as the card goes, at $10 it is worth it. It pains me to say this, but unfortunately I am not an over reactive liar.
Glad to see so many new members joining the forum here.
Quote: vegasNOverOnce upon a time, there was a Facebook group where Brad would give people lots of advice on MyVegas. That group got disbanded as John and Brad wanted to use the group to make money (I am not saying there is anything wrong with that, just stating what happened.)
From there, Vegas Rover was formed. During the funding process, Brad would actually berate people who did not sign up to pay $50 for a deals card that at that time, had zero actual deals. The plan was to secure the funding and THEN go to Vegas to approach casinos for deals. So we sat there for weeks and weeks watching people get told that they were ungrateful for all the free advice Brad had given them, sat through the endless guilt trips, sat and watched Brad play the victim about how he spent $5k of his own money on the group meet (that people were charged to attend) and no one cares enough to fund his company. How does someone who is constantly crying about being unemployed have $5k at all, let alone $5k to drop on a meet for people he had never met outside of Facebook? This is so suspicious.
Also, a choice quote during this line of guilt tripping people to pony up and donate for a deals card that at the time had ZERO announced deals, was "Rover loves you, but do you love Rover?" Barf.
Brad's group actually took a collection and bought him a flight to Vegas because they felt so bad for him not being able to afford a plane ticket. So he has $5k to lay out (for what, I am not sure and I know better than to ask) then to later guilt the people who attended the meets (and paid entry fees to do so) to pay it back by way of joining his crowdfunding. But he cannot afford a $300 flight. So suspicious.
Then came the threats of ending the Facebook page that people liked to gab on, if more people did not donate. There was also a threat to end the meets entirely because Brad could no longer afford them if people did not donate, but yet the donations were supposed to be to get the deals card off the ground. Not for meets? So confusing.
If anyone dared to ask any question, they were banned. People were being asked to blindly donate $50-$500 without so much as ONE deal listed. No questions were allowed.
In addition to that, there seems to be a lot of empty threats and insane exaggerations going on. Some things that appeared in this very thread were John referring to a "ring of extortionists' and "cyber terrorism." Exaggerate much? When all the dirt came out, they could not control the amount of people asking questions so they went the "our team of lawyers is working on the slander" route. Thing is though, even if you were sitting in a bar next to a blacked out guy who was accepted to law school but had not yet started, even he would be able to tell you that slander is spoken word. The term that Vegas Rover would have actually used if they had ever talked to a lawyer is "libel".
So basically, the lawyer stuff was just to detract from the issue. See also, the FBI threat mentioned in here. It never happened. The FBI is never going to investigate someone asking for a Vegas Rover pillowcase and $3k. The threshold for investigations starts at $100k, which John and Brad would know had they actually talked to the FBI instead of simply lying about it. There is a reason they never answer the request for the case number. See: http://www.fraudaid.com/how-to-deal-with-having-been-conned/ManualTEMP/jurisdictions/federal/FBI.htm
Somewhere in here, John Moura claims that they have thousands of customers using their cards daily. Again with the exaggeration. These are things that could be backed up by fact and simply are not. Whoever in this thread who is becoming a new member, you will have access to the Vegas Rover website. You do not need to tell me anything but take a peak for yourself and see if you can find these thousands of members using their cards daily. Look at the member list. Look at the message board, see that there are never any posts because no one is engaging there. In this thread John Moura claims he wants to become active on this board. He is not even active on his own board. So many discrepancies come flying from these two. It never ends.
One more thing that has always irked me. Somewhere in this thread, someone posted that they saved $500 with their deals card. No matter how many times I look at the deals list, I cannot see where that amount comes from. I want to see an itemized list. But the problem is that if I ask on any Rover related board, the question gets deleted and I get banned. If it happens on a forum Brad cannot control, I get called a troll and the question goes unanswered.
Another thing of note about this $500 savings is that the person claiming it, is an admin for Vegas Rover and had been for at least a year before the deals card ever existed. So first comes the friendship and bond, then comes the claim for a savings amount that no one else can make the math work on. I am not even sure the guy is flat out lying. He just may be doing creative math. Like if you go to Vegas with $1k and lose it all, some people do the "well my room and meals were comped so I only really lost $500" No you didn't, you lost $1000.
As far as the card goes, at $10 it is worth it. It pains me to say this, but unfortunately I am not an over reactive liar.
Well said
Quote: ohiovegasguyThey are bringing in the troops now. :)
Glad to see so many new members joining the forum here.
Can you explain why you are so active here and have not posted in your own forum where I am sure the 1000s of members are all discussing their next trip to vegas to use their card?
Quote: ohiovegasguyThey are bringing in the troops now. :)
Glad to see so many new members joining the forum here.
There goes some more of that patented detraction. It doesn't work on me. I would hope that anyone reading this would realize your response is exactly what I just said you do.
Quote: shaunvegasBecause of Vegas Rover, my last Vegas trip was the best yet. I stayed and additional 4 nights because of my deals card. 2 at the Trop and 2 a the D. We had a great time using our match play. It added to our Vegas experience. I am brand new to the Vegas Rover card. A friend turned me on to them. All I can say is that if you like Vegas, than this card is a must.
Seriously another one of your admins Brad?
Quote: strictlyAPOhiovegas- pm me and I'll be happy to get you my offer and am planning in being in vegas in two weeks- I'll send you my offer from Cosmo with a room and food- if it works I'll be happy to post in here for all to see with pictures as proof
Hi strictlyAP,
Just sent you a PM.
Brad
Quote: shaunvegasI am brand new to the Vegas Rover card. A friend turned me on to them. All I can say is that if you like Vegas, than this card is a must.
You have been an admin on Vegas Rover for over a year now. I just cannot believe that this post is real. Seriously?
Quote: shaunvegasI am brand new to the Vegas Rover card. A friend turned me on to them. All I can say is that if you like Vegas, than this card is a must.
Again, REALLY? You are seriously trying to pretend that you are a random stranger who bought a card? And somehow miraculously stumbled on this thread and had to register to post in it? YOU ARE A VEGAS ROVER ADMIN. Every person who is getting one of the free cards that Brad is handing out like candy is going to see this when they get to the Rover website. You did not think this one out.
Quote: heretobustfraudSeriously another one of your admins Brad?
sorry Heretobustfraud, I dont know neither John or Brad, actually never even talked to them and that includes over internet. I was just referred by a friend to the deals card. Maybe you need to get a hobby or something
Let me ask you a question. According to your own rules "The rule against personal insults is one of the most frequently broken and strictly enforced. " It appears to me that you are breaking your own rules by personally insulting Brad and John so who is enforcing you?
Quote: shaunvegassorry Heretobustfraud, I dont know neither John or Brad, actually never even talked to them and that includes over internet. I was just referred by a friend to the deals card. Maybe you need to get a hobby or something
You are a horrible liar.
Quote: heretobustfraudSeriously another one of your admins Brad?
Well before heretobustfraud says I am trying to hide who I am. Yes I am an Admin and also a black Rover card holder. That being said here is my review of Vegas Rover.
I was the 2nd person to buy in during the rocket hub campaign. I have been to two of the meets.
The last meet I won the Video poker tourney that Rover and Tuscany Suites put on I got $2,000 in free play. So that right there paid for my membership as the meet was members only.
Other value I have gotten I used all the match plays that are offered. Only won on 1 of them. I used my 2 nights free at the D plus my free night at Tuscany. I ate at Ketchup great burger topped with two dogs. I drank many of the $5.00 Drunken Rovers at the D.
If anyone has any questions for me that I can answer with my knowledge of the use of the card and the Value of it feel free to ask
Quote: lovethegoodlifeI am not an administrator at Vegas Rover but am a proud Cardholder. I have used my card in Vegas in my last trip in October. My card DID pay for itself on my first trip and by having the card I was exposed to some great places and was able to save money on everything from food to various activities. Each week brings on new benefits to being a card owner. I don't care what Brad did in his younger days. I have to judge Brad as the person I know him to be now. I was unaware that there were people out there that would slam a man for his past and not judge him for the present out of some sort of retalation for trying to become successful in life. I would buy a card again and hope that all of you get past the bull and quit trashing this group. Join us....Rovers Rock.
This is great within 10 minutes 3 people come to say the card is great. THis is a bit odd
Quote: ohiovegasguyIf you start seeing new members posting here I asked a few current members to visit this site and give their honest opinions.
How about that Shaun admin guy pretending that he is not an admin and just found this thread on a complete freak accident? At the same time you asked your customers to come here and defend you? What are you going to do when the new members you got on this board go and see his name as admin on yours?
Quote: sugarbiscuitI start sorry english is not my first language. I bought gold card at $30 price, card arrived in Netherlands 1 weeks later. I did match at Tropicana for $275 in free slot money + 3 nights room. It took few days for response to Tropicana but Tropicana reach out directly back to me. They match slot and room and also matched $50 food but I did not know food was matched not listed on site. Everything went well at registration, they are friendly and had envelope for me with instructions welcome. I use match chip at D and ate at hash house a go go no problem. Membership pay back nicely for me and hub. I do not understand angry people here in forum who not have card.
This is getting laughable
Quote: heretobustfraudThis is great within 10 minutes 3 people come to say the card is great. THis is a bit odd
Hell it took me 3 hours reading all the SH!T on here to catch up with the topic or I would have posted earlier
Quote: digdougptROVER. I drank many of the $5.00 Drunken Rovers at the D.
If anyone has any questions for me that I can answer with my knowledge of the use of the card and the Value of it feel free to ask
You paid $5/drink in a casino where drinks are free and this is included on the list of values for the card.
Quote: vegasNOverYou paid $5/drink in a casino where drinks are free and this is included on the list of values for the card.
They are only free if you are playing.( and most places give you a 1 shot bar liquor drink for free) I was not playing I was walking around Fremont street listening to the bands. I would pop in buy one transfer it to a plastic cup and then continue walking around
Quote: vegasNOverHow about that Shaun admin guy pretending that he is not an admin and just found this thread on a complete freak accident? At the same time you asked your customers to come here and defend you? What are you going to do when the new members you got on this board go and see his name as admin on yours?
your flattering me now... seriously, do you have a life? i have been on this site for years playing games and reading strategies. i signed up after reading comments from trolls like yourself.
Quote: ohiovegasguyI asked current Vegas Rover members to come to this forum and post their honest feedback. Just as the trolls called their friends I asked members to read the thread and post their opinion.
Detraction! Every single thing I said in my post was 100% accurate. Including (again!) my saying how you use detraction to try and discredit people stating legitimate things. "Hey guys look over here! The trolls called their friends! Now because I said that, you can ignore everything they said that was 100% fact. YAY!"
I have the card and used it a couple of times on my last trip. it really didn't change my trip that much I still went to the casinos I liked and did the things I like. where I used it it worked smoothly no issues and I wasn't keeping trck but it probably saved me a couple of bucks. I will use it again in march and they have added a couple of deals that I am interested in. I look at it as any other start up business. it will either grow or die but I like the concept and view it like the many coupon books ect out there. I have not been offered anything that wasn't delivered and I have used the card more than my sams club for roughly the same money. I have asked questions and had them answered politely and quickly. I am an easy customer because I love my vegas trips with or without the card but I am satisfied with my membership overall and I hope the continue to growQuote: heretobustfraudSeriously another one of your admins Brad?
Quote: shaunvegasyour flattering me now... seriously, do you have a life? i have been on this site for years playing games and reading strategies. i signed up after reading comments from trolls like yourself.
Detraction! It's too late Shaun. You messed up. Big time. If only John had kept his cool, Brad would not have needed you to pinch hit. You lost the game for your entire team.
Sending troops in on either side is going to make both sides look bad.
Looks like a few long time members are going to give it a shot.
I'm going to see who has what with my friends and family as far as their vegas offers go. I think we will try this the NORMAL way. Order card, wait till it comes, use offers.
I don't think fast tracking it with Rover and the casino will be the best test.
Questions.
What if your offer is from Atlantic city or someplace other than vegas?
What if your offer is from a casino Via Email? Can it be printed out and shown? Screen shoot? open Email in front of employee?
Offer must include rooms? Some locals dont always get free rooms with Free play offers.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm assuming any new members here are all plants on both sides. Everybody here knows what members they should believe or not believe.
Sending troops in on either side is going to make both sides look bad.
Looks like a few long time members are going to give it a shot.
I'm going to see who has what with my friends and family as far as their vegas offers go. I think we will try this the NORMAL way. Order card, wait till it comes, use offers.
I don't think fast tracking it with Rover and the casino will be the best test.
Questions.
What if your offer is from Atlantic city or someplace other than vegas?
What if your offer is from a casino Via Email? Can it be printed out and shown? Screen shoot? open Email in front of employee?
Offer must include rooms? Some locals dont always get free rooms with Free play offers.
Terms and Conditions:
Tropicana will match any comp (Hotel & Slot Gaming) combined offer from any Las Vegas competitor.
You must have a written offer which states a complimentary hotel stay plus free slot play.
Discounted Offers Do Not Apply. No Exceptions!
THIS OFFER IS ONLY FOR VEGAS ROVER GOLD, EMERALD & BLACK CARD MEMBERS.
Your offer from a competitor will be verified.
Your name and address must be printed clearly on your offer.
You must present your offer when you arrive if requested.
Must present Vegas Rover Membership Card At Check-In For Offer To Be Valid.
Advanced booking required. You will be able to submit your reservation request via the Vegas Rover Reservations page with proof of offer.
This offer is for one time use.
Management Reserves All Rights!
Must be 21 years of age or older with Valid Government Issued Photo ID.
No cash value.
Offer Expires August 31, 2015
Quote: vegasNOverDetraction! It's too late Shaun. You messed up. Big time. If only John had kept his cool, Brad would not have needed you to pinch hit. You lost the game for your entire team.
im confused now... you are not making any sense!
Quote: ohiovegasguyThey can not prove one deal we have listed is not legit. I challenge them to.
Detraction! Not one person has claimed your deals are not legit. Maybe try addressing anything that actually was said?
Quote: ohiovegasguyTerms and Conditions:
Tropicana will match any comp (Hotel & Slot Gaming) combined offer from any Las Vegas competitor.
You must have a written offer which states a complimentary hotel stay plus free slot play.
Discounted Offers Do Not Apply. No Exceptions!
THIS OFFER IS ONLY FOR VEGAS ROVER GOLD, EMERALD & BLACK CARD MEMBERS.
Your offer from a competitor will be verified.
Your name and address must be printed clearly on your offer.
You must present your offer when you arrive if requested.
Must present Vegas Rover Membership Card At Check-In For Offer To Be Valid.
Advanced booking required. You will be able to submit your reservation request via the Vegas Rover Reservations page with proof of offer.
This offer is for one time use.
Management Reserves All Rights!
Must be 21 years of age or older with Valid Government Issued Photo ID.
No cash value.
Offer Expires August 31, 2015
What does "verified" mean? Does it mean you must provide Trop with your players ID number and they will contact the issuing casino?
Not sure if any offer I get has my address on it except for maybe the envelope it comes in.
Quote: strictlyAPI have spoken with ohiovegasguy and sent him one of my offers I promptly recieved a gold membership code complimentary. I will be booking with the trop tomm and will let everyone know how it goes- vegas please let me know what I should do next or who to contact
Thanks for giving this a shot for all of us!
Quote: strictlyAPI have spoken with ohiovegasguy and sent him one of my offers I promptly recieved a gold membership code complimentary. I will be booking with the trop tomm and will let everyone know how it goes- vegas please let me know what I should do next or who to contact
strictlyAP,
When you are logged into your account head to the members only page. You will find the Trop Match online form to fill out. Simple as that and Tropicana will contact you will your confirmation shortly. Your slot play will be loaded on your card before you arrive.
Quote: BozWhat does "verified" mean? Does it mean you must provide Trop with your players ID number and they will contact the issuing casino?
Not sure if any offer I get has my address on it except for maybe the envelope it comes in.
Boz,
Offers depending on the amount are subject to verification by the Tropicana marketing dept. They are very fast with providing a confirmation number so I would imagine this is a simple process. If you have your player card number on the offer that would help.
FYI some casinos allow for greenies to opt out of snail mail and all offers are sent via email or login. Hopefully your company will adapt to that.Quote: ohiovegasguyTerms and Conditions:
Tropicana will match any comp (Hotel & Slot Gaming) combined offer from any Las Vegas competitor.
You must have a written offer which states a complimentary hotel stay plus free slot play.
Discounted Offers Do Not Apply. No Exceptions!
THIS OFFER IS ONLY FOR VEGAS ROVER GOLD, EMERALD & BLACK CARD MEMBERS.
Your offer from a competitor will be verified.
Your name and address must be printed clearly on your offer.
You must present your offer when you arrive if requested.
Must present Vegas Rover Membership Card At Check-In For Offer To Be Valid.
Advanced booking required. You will be able to submit your reservation request via the Vegas Rover Reservations page with proof of offer.
This offer is for one time use.
Management Reserves All Rights!
Must be 21 years of age or older with Valid Government Issued Photo ID.
No cash value.
Offer Expires August 31, 2015