Vegas Rover Deals Card

if you read the whole thread you would not be asking this question.
I thought I explained in simple terms why I added to the thread and my thoughts about the rover company.

Do you not read my replies or are you choosing to ignore them?

I read the thread- why dredge up something old it makes zero sense unless you have an alternate agenda/ which clearly you do have

I have no agenda. You clearly don't agree with anything I said.
Remember when BB asked the mods to look into ip addresses and they found HE was using a fake account, I'm wondering if your not doing the same.
Were you even a member when the thread started?

What is your point of posting this again is my point- other then to kick a company that is already out of business

I'm not always a fan of WoN's posting style, but he participates in a lot of threads so have to vouch for him here, not that he needs it. Baza this is the one and only thread you've commented on and clearly pay zero attention to anything else to ask that question of him. To say that you don't have an agenda is disingenuous and insulting everyone's intelligence.

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I have no agenda.

Are you f#$% kidding me?

I sense there is just something more to baza-
A) he has never posted anything other then this
Thread
B) he comes on here after the company is out of business
C) says he has no agenda but clearly he does

I'd suggest just putting the matter to a rest, from what I've heard from WoV Members, everyone here seems to have gotten what they thought they should get from the memberships. The company folded, VR no longer exists, what's the point of continuing the discourse?

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if you read the whole thread you would not be asking this question.
I thought I explained in simple terms why I added to the thread and my thoughts about the rover company.

Do you not read my replies or are you choosing to ignore them?

LOL.. no one here was under the impression they would succeed. You predicted the obvious. Mrs Cleo would be proud. Actually no she wouldn't because What you didn't predict is how happy most of the WOV members were/are . Had we listened to you from the start we all would have missed out on a fantastic deal and lots of money . I call that a fail. Its like a craps player watching 18 yos in a row and never getting a bet in.

Wrong place to come and complain but if you know they are starting this venture again, please let us know. Many of us would be first in line, not to invest, but to take advantage of the product.

Money is made and lost everyday, the smart ones find ways to be on the right side of the curve. Sorry you seemed to be on the wrong side of this one. Hopefully it was a cheap lesson learned. And as a general rule, crowd funded projects don't have startup cash for a reason and most fail or never get started.

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I have no agenda. You clearly don't agree with anything I said. .

I think you outed your own agenda previously in this thread. You have some kind of petty personal vendetta against Brad Baker and love gloating over the failure of his company.

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you just cant see it can you, The intention from the get go was to USE the members to make money from them.
The plan certainly worked didn't it.

You've just described basically every company in America. Every company needs to make money. Every person who starts a company wants to make money to be their source of income to live a live to the level of comfort that they are desiring of. They certainly had legitimate business expenses in trying to make the Rover deals happen. That takes money. $30,000 split between two people isn't a lot of money to live off of. It's certainly not a living wage. Yet you seem to be upset that they posted pics of themselves eating steak dinners? Didn't they get those dinners free or at discount? Don't they need to try out a restaurant's quality and service before promoting it to the rest of the Rover group? All of their business practices and they way they used the money raised towards getting Rover off the ground were not unusual.

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I'm certain some people benefited from the programme but I'm more certain that the majority got ripped off and ended up out of pocket.
Take a look back at the whole thread and see how defensive they were, how they blamed everyone else for whatever went wrong.

If it were true that they had 1000s of members where are all the good reviews (or bad)

Many people have openly said here that they were happy with the program and did not bother to write a positive review (other than here). But you believe what you want to believe anyway contrary to any other evidence.

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Also lets not forget that I worked with BB before rover or MVFD existed and I fell out with him over the way he wanted to do things and his desire to make money from people looking to save a few bucks.

Here is your agenda. You fell out with him on a personal level and want to continue to smear his name long after anyone else gives a hoot.

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It just smacks of a pyramid type scheme where only the people at the top stand to benefit long term.

They started rover with zero of their own money, raised over 30k then spent it living the life of riley in vegas. Once that money ran out they just walked away from it.

Again, you've described practically every company in America. Who is going to continue to sink money they don't have into a business enterprise whose detractors are actively trying to undermine their progress? Are you this mean to the Avon lady or school kids selling candy knocking on your door??

I'm one of the people who put money into their initial fundraiser and never got to use any of the deals and I got over my disappointment long ago. Is this really the only thread you've participated in at all on the forums? If yes, then this really is additional proof that continuing your vendetta is the only reason why you're here. Please, just give it up. It's petty and sad.

Yes it's 100 percent the only thing he has ever contributed to

well looking back i wasn't wrong was i.
Vegas Rover died just like i said it would and Brad and John are no more.
No casino wanted to be associated with a previously convicted fraudster and surprisingly no FBI contact was ever made.

I never did get the $3,000 in a vegas rover pillowcase either.

Im not associated with any kind of facebook myvegas group anymore but it was worth the time and effort to bring them down and reveal the truth.

You, Sir, are a hero. Just the sort of man I hope to be if I ever grow up. I may name my next dog after you.