AcesAndEights
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November 24th, 2014 at 12:18:20 PM permalink
We've discussed gambling dreams in the past - I know a lot of us dream about gambling the night or 2 after a big trip. But last night was a new one. I dreamt that the Wizard was an actor, and he was in a movie portraying a character very similar to himself - gambling math expert.

Unfortunately I can't remember anything else about the dream...what the movie was about, etc. I did watch Casino for the first time a while back, so maybe it was somehow related to that.

Also weird since I haven't been posting/reading much around here the last few months. Dreams fascinate me.
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Romes
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November 24th, 2014 at 12:25:12 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Dreams fascinate me.


I've done a fair amount of studying no Lucid Dreaming; it's an amazing thing if you can actually control it... but it takes years of practice. About a month ago I had a particularly long session (a lot of great conditions lined up so I plowed away in to the night/morning). When I finally went to bed I dreamt all night that I was back at the table counting, etc. The ODD thing is, in dreams usually numbers don't add up and things are weird (i.e. You get K-9 as your hand, look up, look back at your hand and now you have a joker and a deuce). The movie Inception actually almost got this exactly right... There's too much detail to hold together normally, so your brain just goes with 'averages' so to say and doesn't worry about maintaining constant state. However, this dream was extremely stable to the point where no one's hands changed (over numerous deals/etc), the count actually maintained a logical/normal number, etc.

...of course it was a dream though, because 1) the count actually got big, and 2) I was actually winning all my big bets lol.
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FleaStiff
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November 24th, 2014 at 12:40:41 PM permalink
Okay.... you got enough to start your film script... now keep going:

Ideas: Comes to the attention of "big money men" who think he might be persuaded to work on a project for them. They let him know if he comes work for them they will let he and his family go on breathing.

Notices a "doorman" situation somewhere. You know.. nobody ever makes as much money in a hotel as the doorman, not the owner, not the hookers, nobody.

Is selected for an additional special skill to infiltrate the Great Mahjong Parlor mafia because Madam Wong collects license plates too.

Gets set up by a team on con artists pulling the old winning ticket in every race trick or dumping counterfeit chips on him and then he must seek revenge on those who wronged him.

Wife of Texas Oil Tycoon wishes to become Widow of Texas Oil Tycoon and uses charms to seek aid from gambling expert to arrange a fatal fall from a unicycle.
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November 24th, 2014 at 12:45:10 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I've done a fair amount of studying no Lucid Dreaming; it's an amazing thing if you can actually control it... but it takes years of practice. About a month ago I had a particularly long session (a lot of great conditions lined up so I plowed away in to the night/morning). When I finally went to bed I dreamt all night that I was back at the table counting, etc. The ODD thing is, in dreams usually numbers don't add up and things are weird (i.e. You get K-9 as your hand, look up, look back at your hand and now you have a joker and a deuce). The movie Inception actually almost got this exactly right... There's too much detail to hold together normally, so your brain just goes with 'averages' so to say and doesn't worry about maintaining constant state. However, this dream was extremely stable to the point where no one's hands changed (over numerous deals/etc), the count actually maintained a logical/normal number, etc.

...of course it was a dream though, because 1) the count actually got big, and 2) I was actually winning all my big bets lol.

OK ill bite. How does one practice controlling dreams?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 24th, 2014 at 12:46:15 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

We've discussed gambling dreams in the past - I know a lot of us dream about gambling the night or 2 after a big trip. But last night was a new one. I dreamt that the Wizard was an actor, and he was in a movie portraying a character very similar to himself - gambling math expert.

Unfortunately I can't remember anything else about the dream...what the movie was about, etc. I did watch Casino for the first time a while back, so maybe it was somehow related to that.

Also weird since I haven't been posting/reading much around here the last few months. Dreams fascinate me.



Were there any scantily clad models ? :-)
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Romes
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November 24th, 2014 at 1:38:22 PM permalink
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OK ill bite. How does one practice controlling dreams?


You have to practice recognizing that you're in a dream. This is what creates a lucid dream state... When you're in a dream, and you know you're dreaming, so you can change the world around you as you see fit. There's a lot of ways of practicing, and they even sell devices to help. You actually dream during REM sleep, so there's eye covers (like the one's most people sleep with anyways) that go over your eyes. You set some kind of timer on them when you go to sleep, and they emit small flashes of light when you should be during REM sleep. In the dream this will come off in one way or another as flashes of light and over time your brain will associate the flashes with the eye covers, and not the dream. Thus, it's a way to sort of 'tell yourself' you're dreaming, while you're dreaming.

If you google the topic, every first place will tell you to start by keeping a dream journal. This will help you remember your dreams and in time make them less "fuzzy" and more clear even while you're having them.

I don't know if it's because I'm quite meticulous or not, but I've always been able to tell the subtle difference in dreams and get confused by them (i.e. look at a clock, look away, look back and it's totally different). When I got really in to lucid dreaming my brain took these little mistakes and as a similar message to let me know I was dreaming. Quite often I'll run around in my dream telling my friends/etc that I'm actually dreaming.

The reason it's difficult to control them is once you start having a higher level of brain activity (changing the dream world as you rationally see fit) quite often people will then wake up. Most of the 'training' involves teaching yourself not to wake up once you realize you're in a dream (which is very difficult to do if you try to 'change' anything about the dream). If you've ever had a lucid dream, I'd be willing to bet you woke up very soon after realizing you were in a dream.
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rudeboyoi
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November 24th, 2014 at 2:18:34 PM permalink
I can't throw anything in my dreams for some reason. The other night i had a dream i was playing basketball. Whenever I'd try shooting a basket, the ball would pretty much just drop from my finger tips no matter how hard I tried. Like there's no force behind my shot. Anyone else have a similar experience in a dream?
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November 24th, 2014 at 2:25:53 PM permalink
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I can't throw anything in my dreams for some reason. The other night i had a dream i was playing basketball. Whenever I'd try shooting a basket, the ball would pretty much just drop from my finger tips no matter how hard I tried. Like there's no force behind my shot. Anyone else have a similar experience in a dream?

I recall reading that when you dream, your brain shuts off its motor control sections. This is why things in dreams may seem very heavy, or if you are running, you feel like you can't lift your legs. When the motor control section is not shut off, folks sleepwalk, or thrash around in bed.
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Romes
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November 24th, 2014 at 2:25:54 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

I can't throw anything in my dreams for some reason. The other night i had a dream i was playing basketball. Whenever I'd try shooting a basket, the ball would pretty much just drop from my finger tips no matter how hard I tried. Like there's no force behind my shot. Anyone else have a similar experience in a dream?


This is actually quite explainable... The same reason if you're having a nightmare and people try to run away from someone/something and they can only move very slow. What's actually happening is you're trying so hard (out of fear or desire) that your brain is actually sending signals to your limbs. Normally when you dream your brain knows not to actually send the signal to your arm to throw a ball when you throw one in your dream. However, because you're focusing so hard in the dream on doing it you're breaking that barrier and your body is trying to move, but while you're unconscious, most often you can't really move your limbs. So when you can't fast in a dream, for example, it's because your brain is also attempting to send signals to your legs.

You can also feel this if you've ever "woken up" but you feel like you can't move your body. You're aware of the room you're in and you want to get up/move/etc but you can't seem to. I've been half asleep before and thought I heard something at the door so I wanted to roll my head over and look, but it was a struggle to. This is the same idea.

A really simplified way to put it is: you're trying so hard in your dream you're trying to move your real limbs, not your dream limbs. So to throw that ball, or run away from a threat, you need to calm down and 'think' about running faster, not actually try to run faster because you simply can't... You're actually in a bed sleeping. It's mind blowing when you realize how close to the truth (about sleeping/dreaming) some movies like The Matrix and Inception actually get.
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Joeman
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November 24th, 2014 at 3:02:44 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

I can't throw anything in my dreams for some reason. The other night i had a dream i was playing basketball. Whenever I'd try shooting a basket, the ball would pretty much just drop from my finger tips no matter how hard I tried. Like there's no force behind my shot. Anyone else have a similar experience in a dream?


I had that type of dream (not being able to shoot a basketball) when I was in college. I remembered that it had been a while since I had played any basketball. I figured that it was my subconscious telling me that I was out of shape and my skills were eroding, and that I needed to get back on the court. Stupid subconscious... I never had any skills to begin with!

Quote: Romes

The reason it's difficult to control them is once you start having a higher level of brain activity (changing the dream world as you rationally see fit) quite often people will then wake up. Most of the 'training' involves teaching yourself not to wake up once you realize you're in a dream (which is very difficult to do if you try to 'change' anything about the dream). If you've ever had a lucid dream, I'd be willing to bet you woke up very soon after realizing you were in a dream.


Had this one just the other day... I realized I was dreaming, and dreamt that I woke up from the dream. Then, realizing in my dream that I had only dreamt about waking from it, I dreamt that I woke from that dream! I finally woke up for real, only slightly confused.
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