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September 7th, 2014 at 6:16:36 PM permalink
Does anyone know why the military uses manned fighter planes anymore?

I've been wondering for a while now and I believe I saw where a drone had been landed on a an aircraft carrier.

Wouldn't be better most of the time like in the f-16's or 35's to just do away with the pilot? In building them it seems a lot of the cost is in keeping the pilot alive and well with all the life systems aboard.

If a dog fight were to happen the robots don't care how many G's are incurred and it wouldn't be risking a highly trained pilot?

Any thoughts?
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September 7th, 2014 at 6:20:36 PM permalink
no question that is what the military is aiming for. Not quite there yet in all aspects I suppose.
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September 7th, 2014 at 6:23:31 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Does anyone know why the military uses manned fighter planes anymore?

I've been wondering for a while now and I believe I saw where a drone had been landed on a an aircraft carrier.

Wouldn't be better most of the time like in the f-16's or 35's to just do away with the pilot? In building them it seems a lot of the cost is in keeping the pilot alive and well with all the life systems aboard.

If a dog fight were to happen the robots don't care how many G's are incurred and it wouldn't be risking a highly trained pilot?

Any thoughts?



I think it is fear of accuracy. When drones go bad it is a travesty. When pilots mess up they are rogue pilots.
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September 7th, 2014 at 6:36:44 PM permalink
I would agree that's where the military is headed. However, there are major (like, tens of billions each) contracts still being fulfilled for manned fighter building and sustainment, that the gov't will have to finish or disrupt the entire manu sector beyond what it can stand. The pol's can't take the heat for wasting the money if we buy them but don't use them. So I'm guessing it'll be a couple of decades before there's a serious drawdown in manned fighters/bombers.
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September 7th, 2014 at 6:57:14 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I would agree that's where the military is headed. However, there are major (like, tens of billions each) contracts still being fulfilled for manned fighter building and sustainment, that the gov't will have to finish or disrupt the entire manu sector beyond what it can stand. The pol's can't take the heat for wasting the money if we buy them but don't use them. So I'm guessing it'll be a couple of decades before there's a serious drawdown in manned fighters/bombers.




It just looks to me like a couple of rednecks and a few cases of beer over a weekend could tear the guts out of some predator drone and swap it out for where the pilot sits.
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:12:28 PM permalink
You gotta think outside the box, man.

Take the AN/APG RADAR out of an F-15 and put it in a thrust vectoring balloon. Tie a crate of AIM-54's to it, float it up to 80,000', and wait. Ain't nothing gonna shoot it down, and you have 24/7 air superiority for pennies on the dollar.

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September 7th, 2014 at 7:16:25 PM permalink
I will be at a Naval Air Station training facility in Texas this week. I would be interested in what the people there think is a realistic time frame for our first squadrons of unmanned fighters. Assuming they don't already exist in the covert arena.
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September 7th, 2014 at 7:20:55 PM permalink
Quote: Face

You gotta think outside the box, man.

Take the AN/APG RADAR out of an F-15 and put it in a thrust vectoring balloon. Tie a crate of AIM-54's to it, float it up to 80,000', and wait. Ain't nothing gonna shoot it down, and you have 24/7 air superiority for pennies on the dollar.

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September 7th, 2014 at 7:54:23 PM permalink
Remote control signal jamming.
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September 7th, 2014 at 8:05:11 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

Remote control signal jamming.



Isn't there already thousands of them in the air?

I read where there is supposed to be 10 or so thousand flying over the USA by this or next year. Not all at the same time but that is still many in the air at the same time. Somebody way smarter than me is working on this stuff?

Harden it, password protect or something?

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