Loitering-Boxing-Cellphones-whatever (Split from disc about suspension list)
Quote: IbeatyouracesObama phones are free and get you 250 minutes a month.
To qualify you must be on one of these
programs, I'm on none of them. If
you're single and make less than $16K
a year, you qualify. Axel might have
4 Obamaphones.
Food Stamps or Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
Medicaid
Supplemental Security Income (often known by the acronym SSI)
Health Benefit Coverage under Child Health Insurance Plan (often known by the acronym CHIP)
The National School Lunch Program’s Free Lunch Program.
Low-Income Energy Assistance Program (often known by the acronym LIHEAP)
Federal Public Housing Assistance (often known as Section 8)
Eligible Resident of Tribal Lands
Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (often known by the acronym TANF)
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou don't need any of that stuff.
Just looked it up for my state, yes, you do.
If you want to lie to get one, I don't do that.
I don't like being part of the problem.
I'm glad you are comparing them to yourself. How long have you been sitting just waiting to use them as examples?Quote: EvenBobI hate talking on the phone, it's what
kids and women do. I've never seen
anybody I consider an alpha male
sit on the phone 'chatting'. I have no
number I can be reached at.
F Buckminster Fuller, the famous architect,
never had a phone. He said it was like
having a rope around your ankle and when
somebody wanted you, they just jerked
on the rope. Hemingway hated phones and
was loathe to use them. When he was forced,
he approached them like he would a rattlesnake.
I would guess 95% of normal Americans have cell phones of some kind. Its odd to not have one nowadays.
Its ok that you don't use a cell, I doubt anyone here considers you close to normal.
I'm guessing you are in more need of a dog whistle anyways. This way you can make sure lassie perks up while left in the car.
Bill Murray doesn't have a phone or an agent. He just has a voicemail he checks when he feels like it. Supposedly none too often and he has missed out on many roles.Quote: EvenBobI hate talking on the phone, it's what
kids and women do. I've never seen
anybody I consider an alpha male
sit on the phone 'chatting'. I have no
number I can be reached at.
F Buckminster Fuller, the famous architect,
never had a phone. He said it was like
having a rope around your ankle and when
somebody wanted you, they just jerked
on the rope. Hemingway hated phones and
was loathe to use them. When he was forced,
he approached them like he would a rattlesnake.
However, if you're insinuating you are an alpha male, I don't believe it. Not sure about myself and would have to say normally no. It's a label I don't think really means what people think it means in human society and I wouldn't take pride in it anyways.
Quote: EvenBobI hate talking on the phone, it's what
kids and women do. I've never seen
anybody I consider an alpha male
sit on the phone 'chatting'. I have no
number I can be reached at.
F Buckminster Fuller, the famous architect,
never had a phone. He said it was like
having a rope around your ankle and when
somebody wanted you, they just jerked
on the rope. Hemingway hated phones and
was loathe to use them. When he was forced,
he approached them like he would a rattlesnake.
I'm sure multi-million deals still happen over the phone.
Quote:The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp#SoP5W0wVrPMQeZRD.99
Quote: IbeatyouracesSame state. Friend of mine has one and did not lie to get it.
Sure he did. He even lied to you about it.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm glad you are comparing them to yourself. How long have you been sitting just waiting to use them as examples?
Hemingway also killed himself when he was 61
(great writer, though; one of my favorites. And I hate talking on the phone too; that really is for girls. I am happy with a 2 min max on phone calls; I usually prefer texts to coordinate meetings. But I hate agreeing with EB even more than I hate talking on the phone)
I really really dislike socializing Via text. Sometimes things get misinterpret or taken the wrong way. I will tell you about a few occasions, it really messed me up, next time we have a drink(or in your case, a stinky cigar).Quote: AxiomOfChoiceHemingway also killed himself when he was 61
(great writer, though; one of my favorites. And I hate talking on the phone too; that really is for girls. I am happy with a 2 min max on phone calls; I usually prefer texts to coordinate meetings. But I hate agreeing with EB even more than I hate talking on the phone)
Quote: IbeatyouracesI was there.
Sure you were. If I call on Monday and ask
for a phone, they'll just give me one, no
questions asked? Sure they will. I know
somebody who got turned down and
they qualified.
I would defiantly need 6 because 250 min is nothing. Do they have data?Quote: EvenBobSure you were. If I call on Monday and ask
for a phone, they'll just give me one, no
questions asked? Sure they will. I know
somebody who got turned down and
they qualified.
There are stands set up all around Vegas on occasion. You can see people mobbing them in North Town. The word on the street is you can just show ID and lie. Not sure what you lie about perhaps income. I was under the impression you had to prove you had one of the things you mentioned.
Don't think the phone companies who run this are really giving anything away. I think its all a BS money making scheme.
As I said, 250 min is nothing. Most people will eat though that in less then 1 week. People then have the option to buy extra minuets. I bet they have inflated prices when you buy the extra minutes or want a data plan if that's available.
Quote: AxelWolfI would defiantly need 6 because 250 min is nothing..
I don't use 250 min a year, not even close. And
the govt (that's us) pays for these phones under
the welfare program. I go two months without
turning my phone on sometimes and the battery
is usually almost dead.
Isn't a direct tax collected by the phone companies, so you're probably not paying much. Landline maybe if you have one.Quote: EvenBobI don't use 250 min a year, not even close. And
the govt (that's us) pays for these phones under
the welfare program. I go two months without
turning my phone on sometimes and the battery
is usually almost dead.
I never toss out old electronics, I just counted 14 cellphones(that's not including the countless one I ave lost or ave been stolen) a few of them are still current. I got my first cell phone in like 1993 but still had a beeper till 2001.Quote: EvenBobI don't use 250 min a year, not even close. And
the govt (that's us) pays for these phones under
the welfare program. I go two months without
turning my phone on sometimes and the battery
is usually almost dead.
My dad has a cell phone but never uses it. He wont get rid of is home pone line, same with my mom. This is common among older people. I think my dad only just got DSL internet about 3 years ago.
Quote: AxelWolfHe wont get rid of is home pone line
Got rid of mine in 1997. They still have them?
How quaint.
I used to have your disease. A few years ago I finally came to grips with the fact that 486-chipset motherboards and 1200 baud modems are trash, not treasures. Technology marches on, and yesterday's cutting-edge equipment should be deposited in the dustbin. Just convinced my parents to replace their old tip/ring, twisted-copper landline with digital service piggy-backed on their Internet connection. I didn't confuse them with the technical details. Instead, I just highlighted the monetary savings and the fact that their telephone number would not change. That's all they need or want to know.Quote: AxelWolfI never toss out old electronics, I just counted 14 cellphones(that's not including the countless one I ave lost or ave been stolen) a few of them are still current. I got my first cell phone in like 1993 but still had a beeper till 2001.
My dad has a cell phone but never uses it. He wont get rid of is home pone line, same with my mom. This is common among older people. I think my dad only just got DSL internet about 3 years ago.
Already tried that. Te both wont go for it.Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyI used to have your disease. A few years ago I finally came to grips with the fact that 486-chipset motherboards and 1200 baud modems are trash, not treasures. Technology marches on, and yesterday's cutting-edge equipment should be deposited in the dustbin. Just convinced my parents to replace their old tip/ring, twisted-copper landline with digital service piggy-backed on their Internet connection. I didn't confuse them with the technical details. Instead, I just highlighted the monetary savings and the fact that their telephone number would not change. That's all they need or want to know.
I heard you can trade in old cell pones for credit or something. Occasionally someone needs a cell and the ones that still work I will let them have one.
I keep old laptops as well.
Funny thing though, vinyl is making a minor resurgence.
Audiophiles realize that the BEST sound comes from the grooves of LPs, not from tape or CD.
Hello, back from the grave.
Quote: AxelWolfI heard you can trade in old cell pones for credit or something.
In Mexico City there's a "recycling amrket" held every few months, where you can trade in old electronics for produce :)
What you can do is keep the newest old cell phone as a backup for your current one if it should get lost or damaged.
Quote: AxelWolfMy dad has a cell phone but never uses it..
Real men don't talk on the phone much.
My dad certainly didn't. Exchanging
useless information is what teens and
bored housewives do.
Did they even have phones then? That's just another example of one of your ridiculous statements. That's like saying real men don't spend much time on internet forums, I'm sure my dad might say that. People have legitimate reasons including, Business, large family's, lots of friends.Quote: EvenBobReal men don't talk on the phone much.
My dad certainly didn't. Exchanging
useless information is what teens and
bored housewives do.
Quote: AxelWolfPeople have legitimate reasons including, Business, large family's, lots of friends.
Business is different. Family is to see, and for the
women to talk to on the phone. I have nothing to
say to friends on the phone, why would I. I see
them when I see them. Certain kinds of men love
talking on the phone, chattering for hours and hours.
I'm not one of those.
Quote: onenickelmiracleDo you really have a wife evenbob? You not having any reason for a telephone makes me wonder.
Yup, and it drives her nuts that I have no phone
that's turned on. She's used to it, though, and rarely
even mentions it now. When cells came out she
always got me a phone on her contract. I said
phooey on that and got my own TracFone for
emergencies only. She never wants anything except
endless chatter, which I won't abide.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceIf you really want a phone for emergencies only (ie, 911 calls) you don't even need a plan, just a phone. Even with no sim card or plan, you can make an emergency call.
An emergency for me is calling a tow truck
or somebody to come and rescue me. None
of it involves 911.
There is absolutely no difference between talking on the Phone and posting crap on internet forums. People often use the internet because they can hide and "TALK" because they are socially awkward and would freeze up like a scared child or don't have the balls to say things live or to people faces. Perhaps it takes them forever to even think of what to say.Quote: EvenBobBusiness is different. Family is to see, and for the
women to talk to on the phone. I have nothing to
say to friends on the phone, why would I. I see
them when I see them. Certain kinds of men love
talking on the phone, chattering for hours and hours.
I'm not one of those.
Has anyone reputable on this forum even meet you in person?
Quote: AxelWolfThere is absolutely no difference between talking on the Phone and posting crap on internet forums.
Boy are you wrong. On the phone you are
completely at the mercy of the other person.
They say something you & HAVE to respond.
They call and if you answer, they have
you. On forums you control EVERYTHING.
When you post, who you post to, who you
choose to ignore. Nothing like using the phone
at all.
I would bet they have but didn't know it. However, if someone wants to remain anonymous, it's his right.Quote: AxelWolfThere is absolutely no difference between talking on the Phone and posting crap on internet forums. People often use the internet because they can hide and "TALK" because they are socially awkward and would freeze up like a scared child or don't have the balls to say things live or to people faces. Perhaps it takes them forever to even think of what to say.
Has anyone reputable on this forum even meet you in person?
Sounds good and I am confident she isn't in a freezer now. Very selfish though Bob.Quote: EvenBobYup, and it drives her nuts that I have no phone
that's turned on. She's used to it, though, and rarely
even mentions it now. When cells came out she
always got me a phone on her contract. I said
phooey on that and got my own TracFone for
emergencies only. She never wants anything except
endless chatter, which I won't abide.
Quote: AxelWolfHas anyone reputable on this forum even meet you in person?
Back in the 90's I met several locals in person
that I met on the net. Didn't like it, a few times
it was a real shocker. Made it a point never to
do it again. I will never meet anybody I talk to
on the net ever again.
One of my best friends is a farmer who lives in
IA. We met on a TV forum in 2009 and have
never met. We exchange emails every day, and
have thousands of them. He's five years younger
than me and I have no idea what he even looks
like. We seldom discuss personal things, just
everything else. As I'm tying this I got an email
from him about his wind farm. Cool.
Control. You don't have any control of anything.Quote: EvenBobBoy are you wrong. On the phone you are
completely at the mercy of the other person.
They say something you & HAVE to respond.
They call and if you answer, they have
you. On forums you control EVERYTHING.
When you post, who you post to, who you
choose to ignore. Nothing like using the phone
at all.
Quote: onenickelmiracleControl. You don't have any control of anything.
Exactly. That's what Fuller meant about having
a rope tied to your ankle. They jerk and you
jump. Mark Twain couldn't imagine the phone
being more than a fad, he had no idea the
penchant people have for useless conversation
if given the chance.
Quote: EvenBobExactly. That's what Fuller meant about having
a rope tied to your ankle. They jerk and you
jump. Mark Twain couldn't imagine the phone
being more than a fad, he had no idea the
penchant people have for useless conversation
if given the chance.
Indeed.
You kind of proved some of my points. On the phone you have to ave real communication skills. Like I said its harder for you to talk to someone in person or live on the phone you have less courage. On the net You can hide and remain anonymous, u can ignore people wen you are wrong or cant prove something you don't have to man up, just ignore, hide or repeat the same things. You ave time to think and make sit up. No stuttering and and Stammering. I ave no doubt you are a shy wallflower in person and on the phone. If you really get your feelings hurt and are totally wrong you can just disappear.Quote: EvenBobBoy are you wrong. On the phone you are
completely at the mercy of the other person.
They say something you & HAVE to respond.
They call and if you answer, they have
you. On forums you control EVERYTHING.
When you post, who you post to, who you
choose to ignore. Nothing like using the phone
at all.
Most people your age would think its worst then using the phone as far as the being a man stand point. I'm sure most men your age would call us all a bunch of internet forum sissy's.
Quote: AxelWolfOn the phone you have to ave real communication skills..
LOL, just the opposite. You need no skills,
just sit there and grunt once in awhile.
All the other person usually wants is to
know there's a warm body on the other
end, they really aren't interested in what
you say.
Yea wonderful(sounds creepy), sounds almost as good as imaginary friends.Quote: EvenBobBack in the 90's I met several locals in person
that I met on the net. Didn't like it, a few times
it was a real shocker. Made it a point never to
do it again. I will never meet anybody I talk to
on the net ever again.
One of my best friends is a farmer who lives in
IA. We met on a TV forum in 2009 and have
never met. We exchange emails every day, and
have thousands of them. He's five years younger
than me and I have no idea what he even looks
like. We seldom discuss personal things, just
everything else. As I'm tying this I got an email
from him about his wind farm. Cool.
You have an excuse for everything and why you can't or wont do anything. Do you make this crap up as you go? if not, It just goes to show some people can't overcome adversity.
Seriously if no one has ever meet you from this forum. You could be anyone or anything I could imagine repulsive cat -fishing us. Never trust someone no one as ever meet.
Quote: AxelWolfNever trust someone no one as ever meet.
Never trust anyone until they give you
reason to. Most people will screw you
or let you down, given the chance. Don't
give them that chance.
No offense, but you are probably emotionally damaged. Gamblers normally tend to be but you're quite severe.Quote: EvenBobNever trust anyone until they give you
reason to. Most people will screw you
or let you down, given the chance. Don't
give them that chance.
Quote: onenickelmiracleNo offense, but you are probably emotionally damaged.
I was in a cash business for a long time.
You learn the hard way not to trust people.
I guess you could say I'm emotionally wised
up. Forget the bar and cab business. In my
wife's antique mall, the two most liked and
most trusted dealers turned out to be the
biggest crooks. She caught them when video
surveillance became affordable. Surprise..
The problem is you don't seem to be able to accurately gauge the odds of these situations ending badly individually. You'll say met a friend once, did this once, that once, once this happened, and I swore to never do it again. Yet you like roulette and seem to never want to give up on it. I play games with worse odds, so not knocking it, but the two ideas don't mesh well. You might just have aspergers syndrome. I know you definitel remind me of a friend diagnosed with it.Quote: EvenBobI was in a cash business for a long time.
You learn the hard way not to trust people.
I guess you could say I'm emotionally wised
up. Forget the bar and cab business. In my
wife's antique mall, the two most liked and
most trusted dealers turned out to be the
biggest crooks. She caught them when video
surveillance became affordable. Surprise..
The irony is priceless.Quote: EvenBobExchanging
useless information is what teens and
bored housewives do.
Quote: onenickelmiracleThe problem is you don't seem to be able to accurately gauge the odds of these situations ending badly
How would you possibly know anything from
a few posts on a forum. I have 15K posts and
I never ever make such broad assumptions
about anybody. Find where I have done it.
Yet you people make expert psychological
evaluations without blinking any eye. It's
quite laughable. I would never presume to
be qualified to even begin something like
that, I'm not quite that full of myself yet.
You swear to never do harmless things again as if the odds were 100%. You aren't using your intellectual side of your brain with these decisions. You're using fear.Quote: EvenBobHow would you possibly know anything from
a few posts on a forum. I have 15K posts and
I never ever make such broad assumptions
about anybody. Find where I have done it.
Yet you people make expert psychological
evaluations without blinking any eye. It's
quite laughable. I would never presume to
be qualified to even begin something like
that, I'm not quite that full of myself yet.
