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July 12th, 2014 at 1:59:00 PM permalink
Details to follow - sugarhouse in Philly ran a promotion and shut it down rTher forcefully just now
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July 12th, 2014 at 2:04:35 PM permalink
Popping the popcorn.
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July 12th, 2014 at 2:08:54 PM permalink
Sugarhouse Ran a promotion where there were community jackpots- everyone playing on the bank it 100 extra each time a jackpot was hit- there were three 25 dollar denom machines 8-5 jacks or better I think maybe 9-5. On top of mailers which are really good there- they had the bank locked up and had 43 quads already each quad was 1250 as we were playing 10 dollar denom which was also available on the machine. For every quad hit it was 1250 plus an additional 500 for the bank of other machines basically making the quads pay 1750. It didn't help that a royal was hit and drew a ton of scrutiny
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July 12th, 2014 at 2:20:27 PM permalink
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Sugarhouse Ran a promotion where there were community jackpots- everyone playing on the bank it 100 extra each time a jackpot was hit- there were three 25 dollar denom machines 8-5 jacks or better I think maybe 9-5. On top of mailers which are really good there- they had the bank locked up and had 43 quads already each quad was 1250 as we were playing 10 dollar denom which was also available on the machine. For every quad hit it was 1250 plus an additional 500 for the bank of other machines basically making the quads pay 1750. It didn't help that a royal was hit and drew a ton of scrutiny



Just curious, how are you playing a game under a math heavy, marginal promotion but don't know the paytable for it? Also, assuming 9/5 jacks, is that even that good? It's like 100.3% (eyeballed) at probably 30k coin in an hour given the high number of taxables, and your chance of getting nomailed is high. I also don't understand you say there were three machines but you were getting bonuses like it was a bank of six?

edit: did math, slightly over 100.8%. better than I would have guessed.
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July 12th, 2014 at 2:29:14 PM permalink
^^^^^^^^

Definitely this. Sugar house over reacted for sure. Pretty sweet for them that they shut it down soon after they got the royal.

If it was 8/5 they would have been losing money on it longterm. Yikes.
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July 12th, 2014 at 2:32:05 PM permalink
Three of the machines have nickel ultimate ex as the low denom so three heavy players three nickel players
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July 12th, 2014 at 3:22:09 PM permalink
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Three of the machines have nickel ultimate ex as the low denom so three heavy players three nickel players



You said there were $500 in total bonus payments for each quad - that's only right if the nickel players were also getting those bonuses despite their smaller wagers. Sugarhouse is poorly run, but surely they weren't doing that, were they?
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July 12th, 2014 at 3:34:52 PM permalink
They were any machine in the bank got ot
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July 12th, 2014 at 3:54:49 PM permalink
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They were any machine in the bank got ot

who was playing all the high denominations? Pros? I cant imagine poppies were all hammering away. Since all the real value was playing the nickels how was that addresses with the pros? unless they didn't care since they other value was in the mail. On $25 machines they would have maxed out the offer values quickly.
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July 12th, 2014 at 3:59:36 PM permalink
Everyone was splitting it on one bankroll nasically
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July 12th, 2014 at 4:00:19 PM permalink
Sugar offers daily mailers with a single extra weekly offer on top of the daily
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July 12th, 2014 at 9:34:16 PM permalink
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Details to follow - sugarhouse in Philly ran a promotion and shut it down rTher forcefully just now



Were all machines eligible for the promotion or were some excluded? Did they end the promotion completely or just ban the big players?
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July 13th, 2014 at 12:55:12 AM permalink
Is this what all of youz guys is talking about:

Community Jackpots
Saturdays in July • 10AM - 10PM

When a jackpot is hit all guests actively playing with their Rush Rewards card in the same bank of slot machines will receive FREE PLAY! It's that easy - everybody wins!

Rush - $25 Free Play
Preferred - $50 Free Play
Signature - $100 Free Play
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July 13th, 2014 at 1:02:29 AM permalink
There was also a July 12th special Win at Mummers Day Saturday Special.
This may be it, it was promoted via Twitter but I've just checked twitterfeed and didn't find nothin' critical.
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July 13th, 2014 at 5:51:39 AM permalink
Community jackpots
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July 13th, 2014 at 7:14:03 AM permalink
trust me it was a great promo if you couple it with the mailers it was huge- based on play of one day - the mailers would give up to an extra 4500 and then some- there is also a jackpot party that gives another 10k away
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July 13th, 2014 at 7:23:01 AM permalink
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trust me it was a great promo if you couple it with the mailers it was huge- based on play of one day - the mailers would give up to an extra 4500 and then some- there is also a jackpot party that gives another 10k away

So how is it that the players felt it would be huge and showed up for it, found that it was indeed huge ... and only then the casino suddenly noticed: its a huge loss.
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July 13th, 2014 at 7:24:52 AM permalink
I am curious as to how they shut it down. Did they make an announcement to tell everyone in the casino? Was there a lot of outrage when they did?
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July 13th, 2014 at 8:18:06 AM permalink
they rolled 11 deep with gaming and security and slot managers- it was absurd- I got into it with one of the slot managers and he looked like he was going to hit me
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:18:36 AM permalink
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they rolled 11 deep with gaming and security and slot managers- it was absurd- I got into it with one of the slot managers and he looked like he was going to hit me



Did they shut down the promo all together or just the team playing big vp?

Did you see any other teams trying out different approaches?
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:18:51 AM permalink
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they rolled 11 deep with gaming and security and slot managers- it was absurd- I got into it with one of the slot managers and he looked like he was going to hit me



Dude, I have to say, I am not sure where you are going to be welcome to play soon. While I believe all you post, you are making a name for yourself across the country. Whereas most of the big AP's I know keep a low profile and do everything possible to not get barred. Getting into it with a slot manager isnt low profile.

You have recently posted you are not welcome for a period at Aria and perhaps all MGM's in Vegas, had issues at Cosmo and now in PA. Not good for long term results.
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:27:36 AM permalink
I hear you but I'm not new to this- and there much more background and cover then I care to share on here- I was able to find a diff approach and I was the only one of the group that did not get flagged I just had to move to a different bank
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:40:33 AM permalink
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I hear you but I'm not new to this- and there much more background and cover then I care to share on here-

Okay, pal... it may not be your first rodeo or your last.... but I know which you are closer too.
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:40:42 AM permalink
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I just had to move to a different bank



So the promo did not get shut down with security...only your team was backed off?
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:47:42 AM permalink
Thread turning into classic misdirection? It's over, they shut it down but op kept playing. It seems like he has just enough sense not to reply to the important questions but not enough sense to not post about it in the first place.
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:52:55 AM permalink
they shut down certain banks
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July 13th, 2014 at 4:16:59 PM permalink
This whole thread is fishy. He talks about this great AP play but doesn't know the paytable. Somehow he was the only one that escaped trouble, but he claims he got into it with a slot manager? He says that the mail is really good, but brags about the play before he's even received any and brags about the team play, when it sounds like they would be looking for any reason to not market to you and they could easily come across this thread. I think the most likely scenario is that he got excluded from this team, and is trying to get back at them without looking petty under the guise of bragging.
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:03:23 PM permalink
If that's what you think so be it- not going to resort to arguing back and forth with you
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July 13th, 2014 at 9:34:14 PM permalink
However in answer to your question actually on second thought not worth my time
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