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aceofspades
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:28:59 PM permalink
Press of AC article


23 year old guy has a prescription for medical marijuana use (for his seizures and irritable bowl syndrome)
Revel apparently stopped him from smoking in the smoking section ( although he states he never stated in what form he was going to use it) - if he was attempting to use it in the smoking section, wouldn't it seem he would be smoking it?

What is the law on second hand marijuana smoke? What if you are in a casino and someone is smoking marijuana and you inhale the smoke then fail a drug test for work/probation/family court child custody hearing?
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:36:50 PM permalink
If I'm not mistaken, you wouldn't fail a drug test under those conditions.

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However, extreme secondhand exposure is required. For instance, being in a closed car full of pot smokers for several hours might cause someone to test positive in a drug test the very next day. Non-smokers are safe in a ventilated area such as an average living room or garage where partygoers are smoking pot.



http://marijuana.com/drug-test/detection-time/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:37:42 PM permalink
I noticed some stories in Vegas on marijuana but never read them. Maybe someone can share? The real question is when is the casino going to give out free joints?
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:38:15 PM permalink
Wouldn't it depend on the NJ State laws about marijuana?

I would imagine all public and private companies operating in NJ has to abide by the State laws with regards to it? Perhaps this does not include private companies who choose to ban such activity from their property even though it has been legalized for medicinal use?

As far as I can tell, NJ allowed the medical use of marijuana up to a limit of 2 oz in 2010.

In my opinion then, as long as he smoked in the smoking section, they should have allowed him to do so?
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:49:23 PM permalink
Let's not forget that marijuana possession is still a federal crime - regardless of a prescription or not
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:55:02 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Let's not forget that marijuana possession is still a federal crime - regardless of a prescription or not



So here is somthing I have no idea about, hell, I haven't even written my Citizenship test yet.

In order to be held liable for a Federal crime do you have to be caught by a federal marshall? I mean, if like in this case you are holding with a prescription (legal according to state law) but illegal according to Federal law, can the casino call the cops and have you arrested on Federal possession charges?
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May 14th, 2014 at 6:59:25 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Quote: aceofspades

Let's not forget that marijuana possession is still a federal crime - regardless of a prescription or not



So here is somthing I have no idea about, hell, I haven't even written my Citizenship test yet.

In order to be held liable for a Federal crime do you have to be caught by a federal marshall? I mean, if like in this case you are holding with a prescription (legal according to state law) but illegal according to Federal law, can the casino call the cops and have you arrested on Federal possession charges?




Well, if it is legal in the state then I do not think the State officers have the authority to arrest. I think the Feds would have to arrest.
It's strange how our taxes are paying the military to guard the poppy fields in Afghanistan that are processed into opium and then sold in America, where it is illegal. So, our tax dollars can protect the cash crop of a foreign country but we cannot use our after-tax monies to purchase the product of such crops...
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May 14th, 2014 at 7:00:59 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Quote: Tomspur

Quote: aceofspades

Let's not forget that marijuana possession is still a federal crime - regardless of a prescription or not



So here is somthing I have no idea about, hell, I haven't even written my Citizenship test yet.

In order to be held liable for a Federal crime do you have to be caught by a federal marshall? I mean, if like in this case you are holding with a prescription (legal according to state law) but illegal according to Federal law, can the casino call the cops and have you arrested on Federal possession charges?




Well, if it is legal in the state then I do not think the State officers have the authority to arrest. I think the Feds would have to arrest.
It's strange how our taxes are paying the military to guard the poppy fields in Afghanistan that are processed into opium and then sold in America, where it is illegal. So, our tax dollars can protect the cash crop of a foreign country but we cannot use our after-tax monies to purchase the product of such crops...



War on drugs dude!!! The biggest misnomer in recent political history!
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May 14th, 2014 at 7:02:44 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Quote: aceofspades

Quote: Tomspur

Quote: aceofspades

Let's not forget that marijuana possession is still a federal crime - regardless of a prescription or not



So here is somthing I have no idea about, hell, I haven't even written my Citizenship test yet.

In order to be held liable for a Federal crime do you have to be caught by a federal marshall? I mean, if like in this case you are holding with a prescription (legal according to state law) but illegal according to Federal law, can the casino call the cops and have you arrested on Federal possession charges?




Well, if it is legal in the state then I do not think the State officers have the authority to arrest. I think the Feds would have to arrest.
It's strange how our taxes are paying the military to guard the poppy fields in Afghanistan that are processed into opium and then sold in America, where it is illegal. So, our tax dollars can protect the cash crop of a foreign country but we cannot use our after-tax monies to purchase the product of such crops...



War on drugs dude!!! The biggest misnomer in recent political history!




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May 14th, 2014 at 7:13:50 PM permalink
I don't know anything about the mmj laws in NJ, but out here it is permitted, but you must consume it in private, not in public.

Ideally in the privacy of your own home.

It is a new area of the law, and the schism between the states allowing it and the Feds disallowing it makes the water murky indeed.

The Fed AG, Holder, gave out some guidelines that the states can follow to avoid the likely wrath of the Feds, but some redneck Fed prosecutors are disregarding it and busting mmj guys who are clearly complying with the applicable state law.

Is NJ allowing mmj "patients" to smoke their "medicine" in public?

It would seem so, as the casino staff told the guy to take his blunts out to the boardwalk and blaze outside.

Odd.
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May 14th, 2014 at 7:43:45 PM permalink
It seems NJ has not clarified whether it can be taken in any form within the casino. This person had an ingestible form which would not annoy any patrons surrounding him.

I believe when this goes to court, all he has to prove is that his health is at risk by not being allowed access to his medicine.

Many years ago, my dad took out his diabetic syringe in a McDonalds. He was feeling woozy from the food. They told him he could not shoot up in their establishment and called the police.

When the officers arrived, my father showed them his prescription for Insulin and they scolded the management for trying to deny a diabetic his needed medication.

I'm pretty sure the law can be made clear that a patient cannot be denied his medication if in that patients opinion it is required at that moment.
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May 14th, 2014 at 8:03:50 PM permalink
It's still illegal though. Even though the state allows it a company can bar you for using an illegal substance on their property.
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May 14th, 2014 at 8:45:33 PM permalink
Quote: geoff

It's still illegal though. Even though the state allows it a company can bar you for using an illegal substance on their property.



New Jersey casinos are heavily controlled by the state. That's why AC casinos cannot bar you for card counting.

If New Jersey says its legal, then its not illegal.

It may be against federal law but AC casinos will go by the state law for the reasons above.
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May 14th, 2014 at 8:51:08 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

New Jersey casinos are heavily controlled by the state. That's why AC casinos cannot bar you for card counting.

If New Jersey says its legal, then its not illegal.

It may be against federal law but AC casinos will go by the state law for the reasons above.



If New Jersey says it's legal, that doesn't really mean anything. I'm not saying what the casino will or will not do, but if they wanted to do so they can. Most likely as long as you aren't doing something stupid they won't care at all, but if you start a fight or act belligerently they'll use it as an excuse.
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