NCAA "SLAVERY"
April 19th, 2014 at 10:58:58 PM
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After the NCAA tournament a UCONN player described how he would go to sleep hungry at times during the year.
Since then another player came out and compared college basketball to slavery, Bill Maher and the NY times make the comparison as well.
Although I am not as close to this being white....but I do find it somewhat offensive to minimize the rape , violence, and dehuminization of real slavery in this country, with a college young man going to sleep "hungry".
I cringe at that compariosn just as I cringe when someone gets a small amount of food and claims "i felt Like I was in a concentration camp"
or some person who has their microwave set the employee break room on fire saying "now I know how the people in the world trade center felt on 9/11".
I am sure many people in the military go to sleep "hungry" whether in the battlefield or in the barracks.
and come on...there is real hunger in the world....this type of hunger is more of an inconvenience than a medical hazard.
I agree that the NCAA had to remedy this and acted quickly to allow more food. Although this food situation must have been going on for 100 years.
I also would like to see student atheletes get a small stipend to cover incidental expenses
But "slavery"????
this is slavery of white people as well...since I dont think anyone is claiming that white atheletes were treated differently.
iF THE uconn basketball player went to his coach during the year and told him that he is going to bed hungry and it will affect his performance...dontyou think the coach would help find a solution?
throwing the word slavery around for something like this spits in the face of the reality of the brutality of historical slavery.
throwing the word slavery around for situations like this dilutes the word into something trivial
Although I have have no connection to any person who died in the 9-11 events.....I can still be offended by people who trivialize the event. I feel the same way about the trivialization of slavery and the holocaust
there are real catastrophies in the history of the world....I only named a few......there has to be a better way to voice displeasure, sacrifice, unhappiness without being so melodramatic
Since then another player came out and compared college basketball to slavery, Bill Maher and the NY times make the comparison as well.
Although I am not as close to this being white....but I do find it somewhat offensive to minimize the rape , violence, and dehuminization of real slavery in this country, with a college young man going to sleep "hungry".
I cringe at that compariosn just as I cringe when someone gets a small amount of food and claims "i felt Like I was in a concentration camp"
or some person who has their microwave set the employee break room on fire saying "now I know how the people in the world trade center felt on 9/11".
I am sure many people in the military go to sleep "hungry" whether in the battlefield or in the barracks.
and come on...there is real hunger in the world....this type of hunger is more of an inconvenience than a medical hazard.
I agree that the NCAA had to remedy this and acted quickly to allow more food. Although this food situation must have been going on for 100 years.
I also would like to see student atheletes get a small stipend to cover incidental expenses
But "slavery"????
this is slavery of white people as well...since I dont think anyone is claiming that white atheletes were treated differently.
iF THE uconn basketball player went to his coach during the year and told him that he is going to bed hungry and it will affect his performance...dontyou think the coach would help find a solution?
throwing the word slavery around for something like this spits in the face of the reality of the brutality of historical slavery.
throwing the word slavery around for situations like this dilutes the word into something trivial
Although I have have no connection to any person who died in the 9-11 events.....I can still be offended by people who trivialize the event. I feel the same way about the trivialization of slavery and the holocaust
there are real catastrophies in the history of the world....I only named a few......there has to be a better way to voice displeasure, sacrifice, unhappiness without being so melodramatic
April 20th, 2014 at 5:17:43 AM
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Trends in hyperbole and trends in good and bad.
Everything has a public relations trend. Prostitutes no longer "travel"....they "are trafficked".
Many diseases, such as Breast Cancer, have been politicized for years. Tell someone this "1 in 8" is utterly useless propaganda and they look at you as if you are committing treason during wartime.
Everything has a public relations trend. Prostitutes no longer "travel"....they "are trafficked".
Many diseases, such as Breast Cancer, have been politicized for years. Tell someone this "1 in 8" is utterly useless propaganda and they look at you as if you are committing treason during wartime.
April 20th, 2014 at 5:44:49 AM
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Rhetoric aside, look up "The 100-Yard Lie" by Rick Telander. It's a mid-90s take on college amateur sports, with emphasis on Football, though I'm sure some things have changed since then.
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April 20th, 2014 at 6:01:25 AM
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Quote: NareedRhetoric aside, look up "The 100-Yard Lie" by Rick Telander. It's a mid-90s take on college amateur sports, with emphasis on Football, though I'm sure some things have changed since then.
The idea of having professional college teams is intriguing.
Players get free room and board as well as an education if they want it......along with lots of under the table perks.
We have a new victim, the college athlete.
Each day is better than the next
April 20th, 2014 at 6:32:04 AM
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Quote: treetopbuddyPlayers get free room and board as well as an education if they want it
Given the time taken up by practice, I don't see how Football players would have time for an education.
Quote:......along with lots of under the table perks.
The top-ranked celebrity players may get them. the third-string RB or lineman won't. In any case, why not bring it all out in the open anyway?
Also, for every player who goes on to a multi-million dollar pro career, there are plenty who don't get drafted, or who end up playing only a couple of pro seasons.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
April 20th, 2014 at 6:35:06 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
April 20th, 2014 at 6:55:03 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesThey're not there for an education.
Oh, yes they are.
It's just no major college has yet admitted they run a School of Football. Or Basketball.
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April 20th, 2014 at 7:02:27 AM
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Quote: LarrySI also would like to see student atheletes get a small stipend to cover incidental expenses
Yes, that seems very reasonable.
I understand scholarships for spectator sports, football, baseball/softball, basketball, hockey, etc. But I'm not sure why there are golf scholarships, for example. Or am I being too narrow minded ?
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
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April 20th, 2014 at 7:13:05 AM
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Quote: JohnnyQYes, that seems very reasonable.
I understand scholarships for spectator sports, football, baseball/softball, basketball, hockey, etc. But I'm not sure why there are golf scholarships, for example. Or am I being too narrow minded ?
The school wants to field a golf team so they eat the cost of a scholarship and find some good golfers. It's about being able to say they have a golf team.
April 20th, 2014 at 7:14:04 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
April 20th, 2014 at 7:45:47 AM
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The below is data from the ESPN website and is for the year 2008. A bit dated, but I don't think that would materially have changed the argument. Here's my 2 cents worth.........you have a group of schools, maybe 30 to 35, that could afford to pay their athletes. Nobody else could afford it, although there is an absolute ton of money spent on coaching. Maybe that's where the funds should come from? Anyway, see data below. The original reported revenue numbers included "University stipends", which I removed since I felt those were funds contributed out the general university coffers.
| RK | TEAM | Net Revenue | Exepnse | Net |
| 1 | Notre Dame* | $83,352,439 | $60,117,476 | $23,234,963 |
| 2 | Auburn | $89,311,824 | $69,841,200 | $19,470,624 |
| 3 | Kansas | $80,999,770 | $65,748,366 | $15,251,404 |
| 4 | Georgia | $85,554,395 | $71,993,533 | $13,560,862 |
| 5 | Michigan | $98,968,288 | $85,496,004 | $13,472,284 |
| 6 | Penn State* | $91,570,233 | $79,275,354 | $12,294,879 |
| 7 | Texas A&M | $89,212,146 | $77,426,317 | $11,785,829 |
| 8 | Texas | $120,288,370 | $110,996,365 | $9,292,005 |
| 9 | Iowa | $80,715,865 | $71,602,594 | $9,113,271 |
| 10 | Florida State | $73,458,494 | $65,583,105 | $7,875,389 |
| 11 | Florida | $106,607,895 | $98,775,583 | $7,832,312 |
| 12 | Kansas State | $49,113,706 | $41,362,750 | $7,750,956 |
| 13 | Oklahoma State | $96,764,887 | $89,801,118 | $6,963,769 |
| 14 | Indiana | $57,155,333 | $50,920,826 | $6,234,507 |
| 15 | West Virginia | $54,201,154 | $49,052,709 | $5,148,445 |
| 16 | Purdue | $64,253,784 | $59,217,169 | $5,036,615 |
| 17 | Virginia Tech | $64,044,701 | $59,157,745 | $4,886,956 |
| 18 | Army | $29,398,220 | $24,888,651 | $4,509,569 |
| 19 | LSU | $85,018,205 | $81,150,829 | $3,867,376 |
| 20 | Brigham Young* | $36,695,623 | $33,350,374 | $3,345,249 |
| 21 | Illinois | $66,546,031 | $63,458,807 | $3,087,224 |
| 22 | Ball State | $21,769,089 | $19,441,780 | $2,327,309 |
| 23 | South Carolina | $66,545,953 | $64,516,437 | $2,029,516 |
| 24 | North Carolina State | $45,632,223 | $43,892,285 | $1,739,938 |
| 25 | Washington | $58,879,122 | $57,330,671 | $1,548,451 |
| 26 | Stanford* | $76,661,466 | $75,127,232 | $1,534,234 |
| 27 | Ohio State | $115,737,022 | $114,264,848 | $1,472,174 |
| 28 | Tennessee | $101,806,196 | $100,507,146 | $1,299,050 |
| 29 | Toledo | $19,082,007 | $17,811,494 | $1,270,513 |
| 30 | Bowling Green | $18,780,754 | $17,630,636 | $1,150,118 |
| 31 | Missouri | $52,909,162 | $51,779,677 | $1,129,485 |
| 32 | East Carolina | $28,650,081 | $27,625,195 | $1,024,886 |
| 33 | South Florida | $33,668,199 | $32,809,603 | $858,596 |
| 34 | Minnesota | $64,710,480 | $63,968,805 | $741,675 |
| 35 | Kentucky | $71,727,243 | $71,079,982 | $647,261 |
| 36 | Nebraska | $75,492,884 | $74,981,110 | $511,774 |
| 37 | Oregon | $56,623,901 | $56,259,942 | $363,959 |
| 38 | Wake Forest* | $39,961,624 | $39,599,165 | $362,459 |
| 39 | North Carolina | $66,148,186 | $65,929,532 | $218,654 |
| 40 | Oklahoma | $77,098,008 | $76,945,882 | $152,126 |
| 41 | Boston College* | $61,203,340 | $61,065,308 | $138,032 |
| 42 | Maryland | $56,925,856 | $56,844,987 | $80,869 |
| 43 | Arkansas | $64,656,464 | $64,632,499 | $23,965 |
| 44 | Duke* | $67,820,335 | $67,820,334 | $1 |
| 45 | Rice* | $26,767,228 | $26,767,227 | $1 |
| 46 | USC* | $76,409,919 | $76,409,919 | $0 |
| 47 | Miami (FL)* | $46,849,990 | $46,849,990 | $0 |
| 48 | Vanderbilt* | $45,521,855 | $45,521,855 | $0 |
| 49 | Syracuse* | $44,702,831 | $44,702,831 | $0 |
| 50 | Baylor* | $44,151,763 | $44,151,763 | $0 |
| 51 | TCU* | $43,439,777 | $43,439,777 | $0 |
| 52 | Northwestern* | $41,835,733 | $41,835,733 | $0 |
| 53 | Pittsburgh* | $39,741,621 | $39,741,621 | $0 |
| 54 | Southern Methodist* | $33,031,503 | $33,031,503 | $0 |
| 55 | Temple* | $27,478,056 | $27,478,056 | $0 |
| 56 | Tulsa* | $25,797,664 | $25,797,664 | $0 |
| 57 | Tulane* | $20,029,935 | $20,029,935 | $0 |
| 58 | UCLA | $65,878,264 | $66,088,264 | ($210,000) |
| 59 | Nevada | $23,683,924 | $24,051,345 | ($367,421) |
| 60 | FIU | $18,073,837 | $18,475,489 | ($401,652) |
| 61 | Mississippi State | $29,943,973 | $30,432,972 | ($488,999) |
| 62 | Air Force | $30,604,249 | $31,174,646 | ($570,397) |
| 63 | Akron | $18,164,329 | $18,858,092 | ($693,763) |
| 64 | Louisville | $54,395,886 | $55,145,760 | ($749,874) |
| 65 | Arizona | $45,350,301 | $46,211,393 | ($861,092) |
| 66 | Florida Atlantic | $15,200,683 | $16,275,735 | ($1,075,052) |
| 67 | Georgia Tech | $53,615,641 | $54,800,099 | ($1,184,458) |
| 68 | Wisconsin | $91,761,455 | $93,008,125 | ($1,246,670) |
| 69 | Oregon State | $50,740,405 | $52,128,314 | ($1,387,909) |
| 70 | Ole Miss | $33,360,242 | $34,769,709 | ($1,409,467) |
| 71 | Virginia | $64,396,612 | $65,838,543 | ($1,441,931) |
| 72 | Southern Miss | $17,016,259 | $18,671,620 | ($1,655,361) |
| 73 | Colorado | $46,574,242 | $48,368,255 | ($1,794,013) |
| 74 | Memphis | $32,487,644 | $34,379,023 | ($1,891,379) |
| 75 | Texas Tech | $49,356,480 | $51,275,866 | ($1,919,386) |
| 76 | Michigan State | $81,092,118 | $83,444,368 | ($2,352,250) |
| 77 | Washington State | $34,024,474 | $36,495,847 | ($2,471,373) |
| 78 | Northern Illinois | $19,909,617 | $22,448,970 | ($2,539,353) |
| 79 | UCF | $36,266,311 | $38,825,507 | ($2,559,196) |
| 80 | New Mexico | $33,875,976 | $36,477,162 | ($2,601,186) |
| 81 | Idaho | $12,737,756 | $15,610,442 | ($2,872,686) |
| 82 | Boise State | $22,720,489 | $25,607,867 | ($2,887,378) |
| 83 | Hawaii | $32,183,175 | $35,133,798 | ($2,950,623) |
| 84 | Iowa State | $35,667,613 | $38,642,012 | ($2,974,399) |
| 85 | Arkansas State | $7,314,618 | $10,388,098 | ($3,073,480) |
| 86 | Clemson | $56,745,384 | $60,050,712 | ($3,305,328) |
| 87 | Marshall | $20,186,377 | $23,575,610 | ($3,389,233) |
| 88 | Louisiana-Monroe | $5,817,364 | $9,242,021 | ($3,424,657) |
| 89 | Connecticut | $51,529,317 | $55,025,374 | ($3,496,057) |
| 90 | Miami (OH) | $19,772,730 | $23,320,946 | ($3,548,216) |
| 91 | Alabama | $119,668,326 | $123,370,004 | ($3,701,678) |
| 92 | UNLV | $34,011,330 | $37,934,266 | ($3,922,936) |
| 93 | Utah | $23,967,777 | $27,928,663 | ($3,960,886) |
| 94 | Colorado State | $19,693,298 | $23,953,191 | ($4,259,893) |
| 95 | Kent State | $14,446,375 | $18,891,134 | ($4,444,759) |
| 96 | San Jose State | $12,406,855 | $17,386,449 | ($4,979,594) |
| 97 | California | $59,116,360 | $64,275,307 | ($5,158,947) |
| 98 | Louisiana-Lafayette | $5,432,191 | $11,026,554 | ($5,594,363) |
| 99 | Fresno State | $23,068,471 | $28,856,248 | ($5,787,777) |
| 100 | Louisiana Tech | $8,734,059 | $14,631,914 | ($5,897,855) |
| 101 | UTEP | $19,644,579 | $25,707,421 | ($6,062,842) |
| 102 | North Texas | $10,229,009 | $16,449,462 | ($6,220,453) |
| 103 | Western Kentucky | $13,553,459 | $20,075,723 | ($6,522,264) |
| 104 | Middle Tennessee | $12,701,157 | $19,656,265 | ($6,955,108) |
| 105 | Troy | $7,043,101 | $14,327,947 | ($7,284,846) |
| 106 | Utah State | $7,250,260 | $14,595,321 | ($7,345,061) |
| 107 | Buffalo | $14,387,445 | $21,854,374 | ($7,466,929) |
| 108 | UAB | $13,389,337 | $21,509,018 | ($8,119,681) |
| 109 | Eastern Michigan | $16,755,955 | $25,153,394 | ($8,397,439) |
| 110 | San Diego State | $22,054,656 | $31,405,858 | ($9,351,202) |
| 111 | Arizona State | $44,224,928 | $54,296,003 | ($10,071,075) |
| 112 | New Mexico State | $18,210,828 | $28,298,002 | ($10,087,174) |
| 113 | Wyoming | $12,924,929 | $24,876,915 | ($11,951,986) |
| 114 | Western Michigan | $9,312,836 | $21,635,009 | ($12,322,173) |
| 115 | Houston | $17,840,410 | $30,988,450 | ($13,148,040) |
| 116 | Ohio | $7,040,272 | $20,297,059 | ($13,256,787) |
| 117 | Central Michigan | $7,278,745 | $21,636,204 | ($14,357,459) |
| 118 | Cincinnati | $21,582,042 | $36,369,715 | ($14,787,673) |
| 119 | Rutgers | $36,773,742 | $51,748,813 | ($14,975,071) |
| $5,304,669,310 | $5,390,215,966 | ($85,546,656) | ||
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April 20th, 2014 at 8:24:21 AM
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BTW, I believe that there are 352 Division 1 schools. So around 90% lose money on their athletics' programs? It seems to me that the college kids should be thankful for getting the free education.
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April 20th, 2014 at 8:28:33 AM
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Quote: treetopbuddyThe idea of having professional college teams is intriguing.
Players get free room and board as well as an education if they want it......along with lots of under the table perks.
The problem is, if the school is involved, then Title IX shows up and asks where the matching money is for women.
("When women are good enough to make the team, we'll pay them!" "Guess what? It's thinking like that that led to Title IX being enacted in the first place. See you in court.")
My idea: take big money football and men's basketball out of the schools entirely, except that each team would be in a college town and rent out the college's stadium/arena for its games.
Quote: JohnnyQI understand scholarships for spectator sports, football, baseball/softball, basketball, hockey, etc. But I'm not sure why there are golf scholarships, for example. Or am I being too narrow minded ?
The NCAA mandates that each Division I school have teams in at least 7 men's sports, and give out a certain number of scholarships (at least half of the maximum allowed in that sport; the maximums range from 3.6 for rifle shooting (yes, there's an NCAA rifle shooting championship) to 85 for FBS football) in at least 14 sports, at least 7 of which are women's sports.
April 20th, 2014 at 8:35:44 AM
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New Mexico State lost over $10 million in this data. They paid coaches $3.5 million. Really? This is a public school. Yes? How does the legislature in that state allow this?
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April 20th, 2014 at 8:55:55 AM
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Holy crap! University of Texas paid out over $17 million in "Coaches Pay"!!!
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April 20th, 2014 at 10:48:47 AM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyThe NCAA mandates that each Division I school have teams in at least 7 men's sports, and give out a certain number of scholarships (at least half of the maximum allowed in that sport; the maximums range from 3.6 for rifle shooting (yes, there's an NCAA rifle shooting championship) to 85 for FBS football) in at least 14 sports, at least 7 of which are women's sports.
Interesting, but pretty much like I thought, there is no good reason to have golf or rifle team scholarships. How do either of those improve the quality of life on campus for the other 99.5 % of students ?
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
April 20th, 2014 at 10:55:03 AM
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Quote: steeldcoBTW, I believe that there are 352 Division 1 schools. So around 90% lose money on their athletics' programs? It seems to me that the college kids should be thankful for getting the free education.
According to this report, in 2012, of the 340 Division I schools that reported financial records, 23 athletic departments took in more money directly (this includes money from things like TV contracts, but not from money given to it by the university) than it spent. All 23 schools are FBS.
In a further breakdown, 63 mens' programs made money (not surprisingly, no women's programs did); 71 football programs (67 FBS, 4 FCS) made money, as did 74 men's basketball programs (64 FBS, 4 FCS, 6 non-football schools) and 2 women's basketball programs (1 FBS, 1 FCS). I have been told that some schools (e.g. LSU) have baseball programs that make money, but this was not listed in the report.
April 20th, 2014 at 11:19:24 AM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyAccording to this report, in 2012, of the 340 Division I schools that reported financial records, 23 athletic departments took in more money directly (this includes money from things like TV contracts, but not from money given to it by the university) than it spent. All 23 schools are FBS.
In a further breakdown, 63 mens' programs made moneyQuote:
If I understood my quick perusal of the report, this includes University stipends, which I don't believe should be included when determining profitability. I therefore think than many less than 63 programs made money.DO NOT blindly accept what has been spoken. DO NOT blindly accept what has been written. Think. Assess. Lead. DO NOT blindly follow.
April 20th, 2014 at 11:32:25 AM
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Quote: steeldcoIf I understood my quick perusal of the report, this includes University stipends, which I don't believe should be included when determining profitability. I therefore think than many less than 63 programs made money.
Not the way I read it.
The counts on how many programs have "generated revenues exceeding expenses" (pages 27-28 for FBS, 53-54 for FCS, and 79-80 for non-football schools) uses "generated revenues" against expenses.
The report defines "generated revenues" on Page 9:
"Generated revenues are produced by the athletics department and include ticket sales, radio and television receipts, alumni contributions, guarantees, royalties, NCAA distributions and other revenue sources that are not dependent upon institutional entities outside the athletics department."
April 20th, 2014 at 4:50:44 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesThey're not there for an education.
Only a tiny percentage of college atheletes will be able to make a living in pro sports. All the rest will need to graduate if they want a better chance for success in life
According to the dept of ed, the average yearly college tuition is 22k. Over 30k for private schools (4 year programs).
For most people this is a great deal since they normally couldnt afford it. And most of the people taking this tuition will never be paid in the outside world for their "skills".
There are a few superstars on campus in a few sports.....what are the schools supposed to do...give just those people a pile of money?
Imagine what the football locker room would be like with haves and have nots. The students in the trenches protecting the QB gets little extra...while the star QB get paid
Its a fine system the way it is, without unionization of massive payouts. They work a few months a year, get 20k worth of education, get high level traning by coaches, and gets to showoff their talent on a stage providedby the school
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April 20th, 2014 at 5:29:00 PM
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Quote: LarrySThere are a few superstars on campus in a few sports.....what are the schools supposed to do...give just those people a pile of money?
No. The prevailing thought seems to be, what they are "supposed to do" is, maybe have a universal stipend to all athletes in all sports in all divisions, and also let athletes be paid for use of their likenesses in, for example, video games (where the amount paid is up to negotiation between the athlete and the company that wants the likeness - if they want to pay more for the Heisman candidates than the third string offensive linemen, that's their business; for that matter, if they don't pay for the OLs at all, who's going to notice, or care that much?).
April 20th, 2014 at 6:05:02 PM
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What is the problem with schools paying them? I wouldn't want my school to do it, but I don't see the problem of wasting money on it.
April 20th, 2014 at 6:17:56 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleWhat is the problem with schools paying them? I wouldn't want my school to do it, but I don't see the problem of wasting money on it.
For starters: Title IX. There would be immediate demands that half of the players on the football and men's basketball teams be women. (Here's a possible compromise: make the cheerleaders "part of the team" and pay them as well.)
Problem two: you get into the whole business of (a) what sports' players get paid ("only the football and men's basketball (and, in a small number of cases, women's basketball and/or baseball as well) teams make a profit, so those are the only ones where the players get paid"), and (b) how much each player on a team gets paid ("Well of course the Heisman candidate running back makes ten times as much as the walk-on third-string defensive end").
April 20th, 2014 at 6:29:04 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyNo. The prevailing thought seems to be, what they are "supposed to do" is, maybe have a universal stipend to all athletes in all sports in all divisions, and also let athletes be paid for use of their likenesses in, for example, video games (where the amount paid is up to negotiation between the athlete and the company that wants the likeness - if they want to pay more for the Heisman candidates than the third string offensive linemen, that's their business; for that matter, if they don't pay for the OLs at all, who's going to notice, or care that much?).
Since these students really cant get a parttime job to make extra cash because of practice scheules and classroom studies...I see a school giving these students the average partime wage for lets say 25 hours a week. And if they want ti use the income from promotional sales( like tshrts, gear, video games with players names on it)to pay for this... that fine. As long as its evenly spread out.
But to set u a locker room of "haves:" and "have nots" is cruel. A wide receiver that catches a couple of balls a game can get thousands in spending cash, and a starting offensive lineman that does all the grunt work getting physically punished in the trenches gets a small stipend equal to the stipend that the golf team gets. Generating jealosy does not bode well for team sports.
And then what about a basketball player who showboats in order to maintain his notoriety, his financial value.......trying to keep his namebrand relevant....rather than concentrating on being a good teammate.
You think fellow team mates who put in just as much work or more.... appreciate another teammate who can individually collect cash...even though its a team game and their monetary windwall is dependent on the hard work of others.
April 20th, 2014 at 6:39:24 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyFor starters: Title IX. There would be immediate demands that half of the players on the football and men's basketball teams be women. (Here's a possible compromise: make the cheerleaders "part of the team" and pay them as well.)
Problem two: you get into the whole business of (a) what sports' players get paid ("only the football and men's basketball (and, in a small number of cases, women's basketball and/or baseball as well) teams make a profit, so those are the only ones where the players get paid"), and (b) how much each player on a team gets paid ("Well of course the Heisman candidate running back makes ten times as much as the walk-on third-string defensive end").
I don't think educational institutions should be in the sports business at all.
