Advice on comps

I am getting married and as a honeymoon plan to spend a week in Vegas. I want to go all out though!! Limo rides everywhere, suites, helicopter ride around the strip. I want it all.

I know that if you gamble they give you free rooms and sometimes food. But I don't want a standard room. I want a huge suite. Like 1000 sq ft. I want great seats at shows.

But I didn't have a gambling history. If I were to spend $10,000 gambling, would it be to much to ask for some perks?? I just don't know.

Give me your thoughts.

A $10,000 bankroll is not going to get you helicopter and limo rides around the strip for a week. It won't get you a free suite either.

If you were to deposit the $10,000 as front money with a big strip casino, and talk to a host, he'd probably be able to get you a nice room comped and meals. But that bankroll isn't big enough for the perks you want, especially as a first-timer.

If you are going to have $10k to spend on your honeymoon, I would rather put that $10k to use and pay for the things you want. You can get a big suite at Cosmo (one of the nicest hotels anyway) for about $250 to $350 a night. Limo rides are not too expensive, in fact mostly the limos are free but you have to tip the dealer, IF you want to go where the limos go.......
Food is kind of expensive, especially if you want to hit up all the good restaurants, STK, Gordon Ramsey, old Homestead even then, you can probably budget on about $200 a night with wine in a fancy spot.

There is plenty of discounts available at the las vegas conventions and tourism authority or at the plethora of las vegas websites. You can book golf, strip clubs, restaurants, helicopter rides, trips out to the Grand Canyon, whatever you desire.....

Doing some research and planning a little you will even have change left over from the $10k to gamble with........

Guess you have to ask yourself this question.......why are you going to Vegas this trip? To spend with your newlywed wife or to gamble for as long as possible so you can get rated in the remote hope that you will get something comped......

Just my opinon. Enjoy the planning and happy wedding day!

Make sure to check out the ceiling in any suite. Some have lights, sparkles, etc. You wife deserves a nice view.

Quote: sodawater

A $10,000 bankroll is not going to get you helicopter and limo rides around the strip for a week. It won't get you a free suite either.

If you were to deposit the $10,000 as front money with a big strip casino, and talk to a host, he'd probably be able to get you a nice room comped and meals. But that bankroll isn't big enough for the perks you want, especially as a first-timer.

A $10,000 bankroll will absolutely get you a free suite and limo rides to/from the airport, and show tickets, as well as your food for free. Maybe your suite won't be 1000 sq ft, but certainly it will be in the 600-700 range (probably the smallest suite they have), and you can always pay for an upgrade (they are not expensive).

Betting $200/hand for 4-6 hours per day, and maybe playing some dollar slots, is reasonable on a bankroll like this, and that's enough for these perks.

Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Betting $200/hand for 4-6 hours per day, and maybe playing some dollar slots, is reasonable on a bankroll like this, and that's enough for these perks.

My advice is similar to Tomspur's. Honestly, $10000 bankroll is not a very strong bankroll for betting $200/hand, which is 50 units. It is totally possible to lose that 50 units in first couple hours. Also, spending 4-6 hours a day gambling during the honeymoon may cause some other problems. If you want a 1000sq ft suite, you can book the Venetian standard suite (600sq ft) and then tell them about your honeymoon at the check-in counter and do the $20 sandwich thing to get the upgrade.

If that $10k is for slots... you will probably be able to get RFB+limo from a mid-tier strip property (maybe upper tier?). If it's for table games... as mentioned... you may go bust very quickly.

I agree with the majority, pay for your stuff up front (as in, get it on your bill) then go to them afterward to see what they can have taken off.

Congrats on your upcoming nuptials and remember, do not play for comps.

start grind myvegas slots on facebook and you could get free show tickets

Fantastic suites can be had from time to time at VDARA ( the timeshare deal attached to Planet Hollywood ) for around $ 100 per night. I think I have an article on that on this site.

Quote: AxiomOfChoice

A $10,000 bankroll will absolutely get you a free suite and limo rides to/from the airport, and show tickets, as well as your food for free. Maybe your suite won't be 1000 sq ft, but certainly it will be in the 600-700 range (probably the smallest suite they have), and you can always pay for an upgrade (they are not expensive).

Betting $200/hand for 4-6 hours per day, and maybe playing some dollar slots, is reasonable on a bankroll like this, and that's enough for these perks.

I respectfully disagree with your use of absolutely. First, a $10,000 BR, and taking $10,000 with you are two different things. As a first time poster, the OP may not understand the distinction.
To get the kinds of perks mentioned, the full $10k will need to be put at risk.
Then, you will need some good fortune to win a number of hands to make that money last for a long time. If that beech variance goes against you, the $10k will go quickly, and the casino may comp your room and some meals. But none of those comps will be known up front. You will only get it AFTER you have gambled, and made the required average bet which will be at least $100 (more apt to be $200), and the min of 4 hours at the table each day.


As has been said, on your first trip just pay for the stuff you want to do. If you have $2k-$3k to gamble where you are staying, you may be able to get your room fully comp'd, and get a meal or 2 to boot. If you get lucky, win a few thousand, and are able to gamble with the additional winnings, you might get all your meals at that casino comp'd (and the spa if you use that).

If you try to use the full $10,000 to gamble with, most likely outcome is you lose most of it, and get very little in return.

Limo - not happening on a comp on your first trip unless you hit something big. I took a limo to the airport once. Tipped the driver $40, and they never deducted the limo from my comp balance

this is a classic example of chasing comps

My advice is to do what YOU want to do, eat where YOU want to eat...its your honeymoon...do not compromise and ber limited to what casinos want to give you.

You are looking at this backwards. Do not let your honeymoon revolve around a certain property. Do what you want. Pay your way. And gamble where you feel you want to gamble without any ties. When the smoke clears you will be getting comps galore.

If you hook up with a certain property at the beginning and flash your wad of 10k..then you will feel obligated to spend all your time at that property or realted properties.

comps as you speak of can be a ball and chain in the middle of a honeymoon where you may want the freedom to see and do all you can do (i am talking about outside of the room)

this hopefully is your one and only honeymoon...dont look back on it and say "i wish i wasnt tied down to xyz properties"......see the shows you both want to see..even if they are not comped by your selected hotel. If you see or hear about a great resteraunt...pay for it and dont worry that there is a lesser resteraunt that is waiting for you fully comped.

By the end of it all.....if you gamble 10k......you will be getting comps for the later half of the week, and also you will be getting offers in the mail for an upcoming trip where you can take advantage of the offers in a non honeymoon setting.

Sounds like now for this trip you want to enjoy the sites, more than gamble....which I understand. Well if thats the case....DO IT.

Quote: Bray1am

I am getting married and as a honeymoon plan to spend a week in Vegas. I want to go all out though!! Limo rides everywhere, suites, helicopter ride around the strip. I want it all.

I know that if you gamble they give you free rooms and sometimes food. But I don't want a standard room. I want a huge suite. Like 1000 sq ft. I want great seats at shows.

But I didn't have a gambling history. If I were to spend $10,000 gambling, would it be to much to ask for some perks?? I just don't know.

Give me your thoughts.

If you play slots and bad video poker at a dollar level for like 8 hrs You should be able to get show tickets and a very nice RoomFB. Nor sure about a limo ride, but they are under $85 with champagne and a rose for you girl, if you just want to do a once around the strip. Helicopter rides are not that expensive, under $80 a person last time I went.

Quote: RaleighCraps

I respectfully disagree with your use of absolutely. First, a $10,000 BR, and taking $10,000 with you are two different things. As a first time poster, the OP may not understand the distinction.
To get the kinds of perks mentioned, the full $10k will need to be put at risk.

I assumed that he meant a trip bankroll.

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Then, you will need some good fortune to win a number of hands to make that money last for a long time.

Not really. In my experience, if you lose a lot (relative to the levels that you are playing) very quickly, they tend to over-comp you. This is why you need an actual host and not just something being done automatically by the computer. I've had my host outright tell me "wow, you were really unlucky this weekend. You're overcomped but don't worry about it; I'll comp everything else off your room and set up a limo back to the airport for you".

A good host will do this. They want you to come back and they do have some wiggle room beyond what the computer tells them. If they see that you lost $10k and immediately stopped gambling, they know that that's probably just your limit and the next time you come back your money will most likely last longer and you will play longer. So, they want to make you as happy as possible so that you do come back.

Quote: AxiomOfChoice

I assumed that he meant a trip bankroll.



Not really. In my experience, if you lose a lot (relative to the levels that you are playing) very quickly, they tend to over-comp you. This is why you need an actual host and not just something being done automatically by the computer. I've had my host outright tell me "wow, you were really unlucky this weekend. You're overcomped but don't worry about it; I'll comp everything else off your room and set up a limo back to the airport for you".

A good host will do this. They want you to come back and they do have some wiggle room beyond what the computer tells them. If they see that you lost $10k and immediately stopped gambling, they know that that's probably just your limit and the next time you come back your money will most likely last longer and you will play longer. So, they want to make you as happy as possible so that you do come back.

That is very true, but you are an established player. They have a history on you. They are not going to be that generous to somebody on their first trip.

Quote: LarryS

this is a classic example of chasing comps

My advice is to do what YOU want to do, eat where YOU want to eat...its your honeymoon...do not compromise and ber limited to what casinos want to give you.

You are looking at this backwards. Do not let your honeymoon revolve around a certain property. Do what you want. Pay your way. And gamble where you feel you want to gamble without any ties. When the smoke clears you will be getting comps galore.

If you hook up with a certain property at the beginning and flash your wad of 10k..then you will feel obligated to spend all your time at that property or realted properties.

comps as you speak of can be a ball and chain in the middle of a honeymoon where you may want the freedom to see and do all you can do (i am talking about outside of the room)

this hopefully is your one and only honeymoon...dont look back on it and say "i wish i wasnt tied down to xyz properties"......see the shows you both want to see..even if they are not comped by your selected hotel. If you see or hear about a great resteraunt...pay for it and dont worry that there is a lesser resteraunt that is waiting for you fully comped.

By the end of it all.....if you gamble 10k......you will be getting comps for the later half of the week, and also you will be getting offers in the mail for an upcoming trip where you can take advantage of the offers in a non honeymoon setting.

Sounds like now for this trip you want to enjoy the sites, more than gamble....which I understand. Well if thats the case....DO IT.

LarryS is right on! Have fun! You only live once and unlike me get married only once (2 times for me so far). DO NOT PLAY FOR COMPS! Do and go whatever and wherever you want! If you have one hotel/Casino you want to build a relationship with for the future then play there. If you are using the 10k on gambling only then play within your comfort level. If you play 300 to 500 a hand for 4 hours a day (Which is a lot when with the new wife) (Good luck with that) your room and food will be comped. At 300-500 a hand 10k doesn't last that long. Be careful. Charge everything to the room and at the end of the trip they will take the charges off. A host is a must! Front money means little unless you gamble it. Let the host set up limos, helicopters, shows etc... He or She will set it sall up for you and at the end comp what he can based on your play! Again, my suggestion is just pay for it and don't worry about it being comped. If it is that will be a bonus.

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Quote: Kickass

If you want a 1000sq ft suite, you can book the Venetian standard suite (600sq ft) and then tell them about your honeymoon at the check-in counter and do the $20 sandwich thing to get the upgrade.

I don't recommend this. I did this on my wedding trip. Front desk agent took the $20 but did not give us an upgrade. Offered us a rate for an upgrade. Her parents were checking in with a different agent and got a better room. Biggest regret of the wedding trip was choosing the Rio. I've had a sour taste left about that place still. Pay the extra money and get exactly what you want. Don't risk it. Then again, if you would be completely satisfied with a standard suite at Venetian in that case throwing out the sandwich would probably be smart anyway.

Get the Luv Tub at the Quad, eat at buffets 3x a day, throw a quarter in the slots, then get everything comped. Now you have at least $9800 left over to gamble. Thank me later.

I checked hotels.com, and 3rd week in April, for example, Venetian/Palazzo is offering suites for 169/night for a week in a 750sf suite, with 1400sq suites for $329; similar pricing at Wynn and Mirage, so for a couple thousand, without the fuss, you can get what you want in a top hotel. Probably even better pricing available if you shop for a flight+hotel package somewhere.

I wouldn't stay at the Venetian/Palazzo!! especially if you are planning to gamble! I was a RFB player there and now they really don't comp that much anymore. The suites there are ok. Nothing special. Stick to a sky suite at Aria or a tower parlor suite at Wynn. If you play the way you are saying they will comp it. Food too. Much nicer at Wynn.

All of this makes sense!!

I just figured that if I did everything I wanted to do it would cost $20,000!! lol If I spent the $10,000 in gambling, then maybe I would get the other $10,000 in comps. Give or take of course.

I have a time share with the Hilton Grand Vacations. So getting free rooms is not that appealing to me for future reservations. I need to use the timeshare or I loose it. So I guess, I will take the advice on just booking exactly what I want and enjoying it! Thanks!!

Does anyone have any advice on what Casinos to gamble at? I have only done slots. I'm not against tables, I just don't know them. I am going to do research before I go, but I also read that some casinos offer classes?

What are you thoughts?

Thanks

on our honeymoon I booked the honeymoon suite at the Mirage. This was in 2010 and they were in the middle of remodeling them at the time. We ended up in one that was just finished and it was great. We did 6 nights for $210 a night. We also got 1 night free because they had to shut our water off for 24 hours because of a problem with the sprinkler system.


If you want to be a real highroller your should book a room in the MGM Skylofts. You will get picked up from the airport in a Rolls Royce Ghost as well.

Quote: Bray1am

If I spent the $10,000 in gambling, then maybe I would get the other $10,000 in comps

I can tell you that's definitely not gonna happen. lol

Quote: Bray1am

All of this makes sense!!

I just figured that if I did everything I wanted to do it would cost $20,000!! lol If I spent the $10,000 in gambling, then maybe I would get the other $10,000 in comps. Give or take of course.

I have a time share with the Hilton Grand Vacations. So getting free rooms is not that appealing to me for future reservations. I need to use the timeshare or I loose it. So I guess, I will take the advice on just booking exactly what I want and enjoying it! Thanks!!

Does anyone have any advice on what Casinos to gamble at? I have only done slots. I'm not against tables, I just don't know them. I am going to do research before I go, but I also read that some casinos offer classes?

What are you thoughts?

Thanks

Sounds like a 10k winner to me! Good luck!