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4 votes (6.77%)
16 votes (27.11%)
2 votes (3.38%)
1 vote (1.69%)
16 votes (27.11%)
3 votes (5.08%)
7 votes (11.86%)
10 votes (16.94%)

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juiciejennie
juiciejennie
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:18:20 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I have mentioned that I felt it might be better for individuals to not vote at all (if not voting for JuicieJennie) unless they would have reasonably found themselves voting in the competition anyway as most people only know about it as a result of JuicieJennie posting about it. However, I still don't see what is wrong with comparing JuicieJennie to the other girls in the beauty pageant given the fact that that is the sole purpose of a beauty pageant. I think that there's a reasonable expectation of being compared to other girls in a beauty pageant if you bring up that you are in a beauty pageant.

Another mitigating factor is the fact that JuicieJennie will need to get in by judge vote as she was doomed (through no fault of her own) by the formatting of the public vote being, "Likes," on Facebook. There's one contestant (Megan White) with 4,291 Likes as of this moment, JJ has 14.

JuicieJennie has publicly stated that she made no serious effort at a Facebook campaign as she didn't realize voting was done this way. In terms of attractiveness, if anyone should look it up, I think it is fair to say that JuicieJennie utterly destroys Megan White.

The problem is the way the public vote works for that competition is fundamentally flawed and skewed to favor individuals who had very active Facebook accounts prior to entering the competition. If you are not such an individual, the only chance you have of winning is to be one of the seven the judges hand-select.

The way the voting should work is someone should have to register a Mint 400 account in order to vote, that way, there's more to the voting than absently clicking on some button on Facebook to the extent that you don't even have to go to the Mint site.

I believe JuicieJennie could very well have kicked @$$ in public voting if the votes had to go through that site and Facebook was otherwise uninvolved. The whole Facebook angle is just a crappy way to do it...

I think it might be a little different if the public voting for the eighth entry to go to Golden Nugget were neck-and-neck and we could be having a realistic impact on who goes and who doesn't. As of right now, we cannot and we do not, Megan White has apparently found a creative way to market herself on Facebook, or has a ton of Friends on Facebook to begin with and is playing to that strength. No other contestant is even close in votes.



how is it that you just said exactly what i have been thinking!! for that reason, i emailed miss mint asking if i can drop out of the "contest"; instead they mail me a miss mint tshirt and a letter saying to wear the shirt and take selfies and post on instagram tagging it #missmint, #themint400 etc.... and promote for people to go to their events and what not...ahmmm ok, whatevers!!~
idk why i even entered another of these stupid bs "contests" since obviously it ain't a BEAUTY contest
juiciejennie
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:22:08 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I doubt if you are really sorry. You obviously don't like her and what she represents. Your posts have made that crystal clear. But we will see about 'not bothering her' anymore.

And the answer to the first question is yes.



to boybimbo: um caused me distress? lol i could care less! first, idk you and second, your (comments, thoughts etc) not important to me because of my first reason!
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:26:12 PM permalink
Quote: juiciejennie

to boybimbo: um caused me distress? lol i could care less! first, idk you and second, your (comments, thoughts etc) not important to me because of my first reason!



+1 for exemplary behavior
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sodawater
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:27:00 PM permalink
JJ, I agree the Miss Mint contest is poorly structured and not really fair. I hope that does not discourage you from entering beauty contests in the future.
Perdition
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:30:41 PM permalink
Inb4 the could/couldn't care less posts.
onenickelmiracle
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:36:05 PM permalink
Yup, more marketing contests than based on merit. A lady I know should have won a casino film contest by a wide margin, but the winner had every customer visiting in her shop vote for her.

It's a crazy contest where you either see good looking girls, hopeless ones, and girls posing like porn stars and escorts. What in tarnation is the site even trying to establish beyond dating leads for the company employees?
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Mission146
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:36:46 PM permalink
Quote: juiciejennie



how is it that you just said exactly what i have been thinking!! for that reason, i emailed miss mint asking if i can drop out of the "contest"; instead they mail me a miss mint tshirt and a letter saying to wear the shirt and take selfies and post on instagram tagging it #missmint, #themint400 etc.... and promote for people to go to their events and what not...ahmmm ok, whatevers!!~
idk why i even entered another of these stupid bs "contests" since obviously it ain't a BEAUTY contest



I would respectfully suggest you Edit this post, or I can delete it for you if you like. You still have an EXCELLENT chance of being chosen by the judges, and that's how 7 out of 8 contestants will make it to Vegas, anyway.

Also, maybe do the instagram thing, a few brownie points with the judges couldn't hurt.

Good luck, would love to see you win 5K!!!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
djatc
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:47:58 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Yup, more marketing contests than based on merit. A lady I know should have won a casino film contest by a wide margin, but the winner had every customer visiting in her shop vote for her.

It's a crazy contest where you either see good looking girls, hopeless ones, and girls posing like porn stars and escorts. What in tarnation is the site even trying to establish beyond dating leads for the company employees?



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February 16th, 2014 at 2:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

Untrue

Very Untrue



Quote: HotBlonde

Quote: Wizard

In that unlikely event, I'll have to give a lecture on the Nash Equilibrium beforehand.

Hey, wait a minute. Is that the one where the guys all ditch the blonde?



Attention was also sought with the multiple times a wager was brought up if JJ was real or not. Had anyone taken that bet, you would have been out at least $2,000.



Quote: HotBlonde

That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

When I joined this forum I was 250 pounds. I chose the handle "HotBlonde" for my handle because it is a handle I had used on another site previous to joining here. I joined this site cause I had been following the Wizard for YEARS before. I have always looked up his gaming advice, strategies, hotel surveys, etc., etc.. I actually play with a somewhat substantial bankroll when I go to Vegas and I love math and calculating house edges, holds, comps, stuff like that. After years of following him on WoO I saw that he had a spinoff site and joined WoV. For the first year, and possibly even a bit longer, I posted here a lot and had a lot of fun. I actually was surprised to find that this was a mostly male forum as I thought this was just a site for people who love gambling and Vegas and that that would just include EVERYONE. Then, after being on here for probably just over a year or so I had the opportunity to turn my weight loss goals into a challenge. Even still at 250 pounds I claimed that I was not only going to lose the weight but that I would do my final weigh in in a bikini in front of everyone. Half way or so through the challenge SOOPOO and I were having issues and I told him I did not want him attending my weigh-in party. This was due to his insulting nature towards me and trying to hurt me. He told several lies about me in the thread including saying that I was asking to call off the challenge when I first got my foot drop. Even the Wizard told me he saw how he treated me in a condescending way when the 3 of us were together in April of that year! So I told SOOPOO I didn't want him around me during my weigh in trip and he did his best to play innocent on here and EVERYONE (except Nareed, who had my back) immediately took SOOPOO's side and decided to turn against me and said hurtful things about me and towards me. SOOPOO continued to play like he was Mr. Wonderful which just added fuel to the flames. I not only won the challenge with a 99.6 pound weight loss, but took and posted pics on here of my 100 pound loss of myself in a bikini. I did get a lot of congratulations, but some shmuck, who I don't remember offhand, posted the comment "thunder thighs". That was very, very hurtful. I had just lost a ton of weight and was not expecting to look perfect, and someone had to say something as cruel as that after I had exposed my body to you guys.



What purpose does this serve bringing it up? The challenge seemed to have taken place years ago, why bring up old drama? I guess it could be part of a "reasoning" for wanting to leave, but honestly it was years ago and on a forum no less. Worry about what people in your real life have to say not a forum. A vast majority of people here you will never know and allowing them to influence your life with what they say is evidence that maybe you should not be on the internet if you cannot tolerate what is said. As for whose side is correct on such an issue, neither. There will always be the he said she said subjective view of what happened, and what really happened meets some where in the middle.



Quote: HotBlonde

I honestly, truly think that men are insensitive and have no clue how hurtful you can be towards making comments about women's appearances. Our bodies weren't made SOLELY to be pleasurably satisfying to you. We're not objects. We're human beings with a heart and soul and feelings. Guess what? My body didn't look perfect after I lost all that weight but I sure looked DAMN good from all the effort I put in. And when I pay JJ a compliment saying that her picture probably looked sexier than mine, that's not an open invitation to say something hurtful to me.



No it is not an invitation to say something hurtful to you, but it is an invitation to agree with you. It was also an obvious attempt at fishing for a compliment. In hopes that someone would say "No you look great too" etc. Which goes back to this point
Quote: Axelwolf

HB seemed to be upset with the attention JJ has been getting from the beginning





Quote: HotBlonde

You guys will honestly never understand how stuff like that really hurts to the core. Women are always getting messages that we're not good enough in some way, not pretty enough, too fat, not a nice enough ass, big enough tits, etc. Again, we're not here on this planet to be molded to your sexual preferences. We're mothers, lovers, caretakers, pioneers, compassionate, loving and can do almost anything a man can do, and where we lack we make up for in things men can't do.





Then take what is said on the internet with a grain of salt like a man would. As for not being good enough, men get the same exact treatment when they hit on a woman, for one reason or another the woman may not like them and will tell them as such or may even be snide and rather rude, both sexes do it. You have stated numerous times what you look for in a man or would prefer, and to many those things come across just as shallow as what you say men do to women.



Quote: HotBlonde

My broker had a "0 tolerance" policy when it came to sexual harrassment in our office, and when I came to him with concerns I had about another agent who I had become uncomfortable with, one of those concerns was this agent telling me I wasn't "slutty enough", my broker, very insensitively responded with, "But Anne, you're never here!" I couldn't believe his response! And it wasn't true that I was never there, I wasn't there every week but I came in when I needed to.
And I had a neighbor who just had it out for me and intimidated me and basically threatened me at our local Starbucks when I first moved in, spread lies about me, intimidated and harrassed a male friend of my roommate's who he thought was coming to see me, solicited a female friend of ours for an act of prostitution and tried to gain access to our apartment, went into my car and took the keys out of my car and kept them when I had left my engine running one day, opened up an email in my name and sent me intimidating emails with a picture of me he snuck of me from his camera phone and letting me know that he knew I was out of town and where I was, and after calling the police on him twice and reporting him to management they all said to get a restraining order against him. I did, and it cost me $600 and got a temporary restraining order which required him to turn in his two registered firearms, which he did not do and I had a detective and gun detail unit go to his apartment to retrieve them, and I went before a male judge to stay this restraining order and the judge dismissed the case. I was in total shock. I absolutely couldn't believe it.



Women do the same exact things, I have been stalked twice by women and one threatened to have me killed on numerous occasions. That is the world we live in as men and women, both genders have people with serious problems.



Quote: HotBlonde

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that women's feelings are OFTEN dismissed by men and not realizing how sensitive our feelings are. That's probably why we're such loving mothers, we're very intuitive and sensitive to other's feelings. Men seem to often lack this sensitivity. When my feelings are hurt or I'm uncomfortable by some man's comments or I'm scared that someone could be hiding in the back of my car or stalking me men tend to think we're overreacting or are making a big deal out of nothing. Our feelings are often dismissed or belittled and this is very, very sad.



Again this goes both ways, and to insinuate that there are not men that are caring or sensitive to others is a very reaching claim which you have no basis for. As for your feelings being dismissed or belittled because you may be seen as overreacting, two things come to mind. One the boy who cried wolf, maybe something was blown out of proportion too many times for when it actually warranted further review it did not receive it due to previous happenings. Second, this is a gambling forum and we all talk about recognizing bad streaks more than good streaks. The same could be said in this situation, I am sure there has been a lot of times the proper action has been taken and just as many that it was not, but we recognize the bad over the good because it stands out to us more.

Quote: HotBlonde

I love my friend Michael but he has a very open free speech policy and allows anybody on here, even if they are not nice to other people. I'm tired of opening up myself on here and allowing myself to get shot down.



Again, it is the internet. Yes you can make friends, but why would you open yourself up publicly on a forum for the world to see unless you know what comes with it, good and bad. If you must open up, open up in a PM to others, or if you must start a thread lay out exactly that you are only looking for positive reinforcement and nothing negative.
Part of it went on gambling, and part of it went on women. The rest I spent foolishly. -George Raft
AxiomOfChoice
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February 16th, 2014 at 2:13:39 PM permalink
Quote: Transcend

Attention was also sought with the multiple times a wager was brought up if JJ was real or not. Had anyone taken that bet, you would have been out at least $2,000.



I tried...

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