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kewlj
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October 10th, 2013 at 4:54:32 PM permalink
Has anyone seen this new table or familiar with it, including any of our game protection guys? It is located in the main pit, where the DD table has been for as long as I can remember. It has a tower with lights displaying the jackpot for the top side bet, which I believe is a suited KQ matching dealer suited KQ. But that's not the part that I am interested in.

Just in front of the players betting circle is a red glass like button or circle. The dealer deals the cards immediately in front of this button. There is also a small computer screen, about the size of an iPhone mounted in the chip rack, reducing chip space. I didn't even notice this screen last week, the first time I played this table. But, today, after two different rounds the dealer tapped the screen and looked at it. It happened to be two rounds that I had a bigger bet out. The screen is slightly tilted towards the dealer, so I couldn't make out what was on it.

My first thought was that these red buttons were reading the cards and relaying the info to the dealer screen in real time, which would be illegal under the Mind Play ruling, as I understand it. Is anyone familiar with this table or have any idea? If this is sensitive information, feel free to respond by private message. Thanks.
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October 10th, 2013 at 5:25:38 PM permalink
Off topic, but still EC related, does it still have that EC smell of carpet freshener/perfume smell? It is distinctive to the EC.

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Beethoven9th
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October 10th, 2013 at 5:44:53 PM permalink
Quote: Alan

Off topic, but still EC related, does it still have that EC smell of carpet freshener/perfume smell? It is distinctive to the EC.


Don't mean to keep the off topic conversation going, but I HATE that smell! It's like really bad cologne, and I almost choked when I went there a couple months ago. I've smelled that same smell in a few other casinos as well, but it's strongest at El Cortez.
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October 10th, 2013 at 6:10:32 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

...Just in front of the players betting circle is a red glass like button or circle. The dealer deals the cards immediately in front of this button. There is also a small computer screen, about the size of an iPhone mounted in the chip rack, reducing chip space....


Sounds to me that the red glass window (about 2" in diameter, larger than a chip) is the progressive bet sensor, - not a card sensor - and the I-phone-like touchpad in the dealer's rack is the progressive bet manager that the dealer operates.

NO card reading system would incorporate felt-top card readers outside of televised poker tournaments. The sensors can be avoided by the dealer pitching over them or going around them. The shoe/dispenser already reads cards on legal systems for Baccarat at this point.
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kewlj
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October 10th, 2013 at 6:15:06 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Sounds to me that the red glass window (about 2" in diameter, larger than a chip) is the progressive bet sensor, - not a card sensor - and the I-phone-like touchpad in the dealer's rack is the progressive bet manager that the dealer operates.

NO card reading system would incorporate felt-top card readers outside of televised poker tournaments. The sensors can be avoided by the dealer pitching over them or going around them. The shoe/dispenser already reads cards on legal systems for Baccarat at this point.



I see. Appreciate the response PGD.
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October 11th, 2013 at 1:17:03 AM permalink
I just noticed that and it's like one of those new pai gow tables with a non-chip progressive that is automated. I also notice a lot of amateur/underbankrolled counters at the El Cortez...... They need to stop following me around though.
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October 11th, 2013 at 2:30:33 AM permalink
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October 11th, 2013 at 6:59:22 AM permalink
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I plan on checking it out in the morning.



Will be interested to hear your thoughts.
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October 11th, 2013 at 10:35:59 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Sounds to me that the red glass window (about 2" in diameter, larger than a chip) is the progressive bet sensor, - not a card sensor - and the I-phone-like touchpad in the dealer's rack is the progressive bet manager that the dealer operates.



Agreed. Our local card club has the Fortune Pai Gow progressive, and that's how it works -- players place their $1 side bet in the red disc which then lights up with LED lights. Before the deal, the dealer then taps the screen to "lock in" the bets (which also then adds a percentage to the progressive on the table-mounted video screen), then collects the chips off the red discs. The lights remain lit up (indicating which player(s) paid for the side bet) until the hand is finished, at which point the whole process starts over again.
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October 11th, 2013 at 10:58:34 AM permalink
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