The harm that casinos do

Quote: MrV

Casinos are a shining beacon in the night for people who arrive feeling this is their lucky day.

LOL! You can spot them, they often break into a
little trot on the way from the parking lot. They
reek of luck.

Quote: EvenBob

The article says:

"Modern casino gambling is computer gambling. The typical casino gambler sits at a computer screen, enters a credit card and enters a digital environment"

Really? Where is this casino? If he got this wrong, he's obviously
never been in a casino, so why take anything he says seriously.

This is what bugged me most about the article. The factual inaccuracies. The article even implies that Georgia has casinos, which they do not.

Quote: MrV

No, that's lotteries.

Casinos are a shining beacon in the night for people who arrive feeling this is their lucky day.

Haha. But given where most casinos' revenues are coming from (slots), it's mostly a tax on the stupid.

Has anyone ever heard of this?

"To maintain this intensely desirable state, players prolong their time on the machine until they run out of money - a phenomenon that people in the industry call 'playing to extinction.'"

sounds like he pulled this one right out of his ass

nevermind, hes right. Just lost 130k in 13 minutes playing Casino War (betting quarters!). Guess it's back to grinding 1-2 No Limit.

Quote: OzzyOsbourne

Has anyone ever heard of this?

"To maintain this intensely desirable state, players prolong their time on the machine until they run out of money - a phenomenon that people in the industry call 'playing to extinction.'"

sounds like he pulled this one right out of his ass

This was made in 2010
Playing to extinction

Though can't say I've heard the phrase before.

Quote: rxwine

This was made in 2010
Playing to extinction

Though can't say I've heard the phrase before.

Yeah, I havent heard the exact phrase before, but I have heard about "staying in the zone" before. Machines are bad for some, people really do get sucked into them, even if we all think we should have all have the self-control to stop. If I wasn't good at gaming math, I likely would be screwed considering my parents. Gaming math keeps me away from gambling heavily on < 100% machines. Instead, I'm more interested in analyzing the damn games...lol

Also it's been awhile since "I played to extinction". That feeling really sucks. I tend to have a big roll when I show up.

Quote: 1BB

what about the 27 states that prohibit casinos? Do any of them sell lottery tickets?

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The 4 states with no legalized gambling [besides a lottery] are Hawaii, Tennessee, Utah, and Vermont

only Hawaii and Utah have 'no lottery no nothing'

PS: there must be a lot of states like Virginia, which has [apparently only] horse racing to get it off the list of 4

Quote: odiousgambit

wiki.answers.com=

The 4 states with no legalized gambling [besides a lottery] are Hawaii, Tennessee, Utah, and Vermont

only Hawaii and Utah have 'no lottery no nothing'

PS: there must be a lot of states like Virginia, which has [apparently only] horse racing to get it off the list of 4

I could be wrong about this, but I believe that South Carolina only has a lottery and even Charitable Gaming is illegal there, this is definitely the case in Tennessee. Secondly, I believe that Charitable Gaming is legal in Vermont, so I'm not sure what the criteria are to get on the list above.

Virginia doesn't only have horse racing, in addition to charitable gaming being legal, it's also one of the Powerball states. I don't know if they have an independent lottery, or not, but lottery games are certainly legal if they are a Powerball state.

My God, what is Hawaii thinking? Hawaii is so naturally beautiful and already a tourist destination...if you threw a few gambling resorts here and there...cost-prohibitive freaking travel...they absolutely destroy Las Vegas in terms of revenue-per-casino. I could almost guarantee it, they'd get a huge percentage of the high-rollers who now go to Vegas!

Quote: tringlomane

This is what bugged me most about the article. The factual inaccuracies.

It is not an article, it is an opinion piece, and should be dismissed as such.

Quote: Mission146

Virginia doesn't only have horse racing, in addition to charitable gaming being legal, it's also one of the Powerball states. I don't know if they have an independent lottery, or not, but lottery games are certainly legal if they are a Powerball state.

Note that Virginia would be in the list of 4, making it 5, if it did not have horse racing but did have a state lottery [it does] which includes Powerball ... I'm interrupted, more later...

Quote: Mission146

My God, what is Hawaii thinking?

Hawaii has two very influential groups that are
dead set against casinos, Mormons and Japanese.
Yes Mormon's have been involved in Vegas for
a long time, but they don't like their people
gambling. Utah has a state ban on all gambling,
even the lottery. The Mormons got an early
start in Hawaii and they wield a lot of power.
For the Japanese, they have a culture bias
against it.

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Quote: Mission146

I could be wrong about this, but I believe that South Carolina only has a lottery and even Charitable Gaming is illegal there, this is definitely the case in Tennessee. Secondly, I believe that Charitable Gaming is legal in Vermont, so I'm not sure what the criteria are to get on the list above.

[responding to statement "The 4 states with no legalized gambling [besides a lottery] are Hawaii, Tennessee, Utah, and Vermont"]

OK, I finally get what you are saying. The charitable gaming is a bit of a cypher for me, but SC has horse racing.

http://www.discoversouthcarolina.com/Insider/outdoor/Blog/10392

Quote: tongni

...I much prefer the British system where a large amount of gaming is done in private clubs by the wealthy with high minimums and entry fees and a dress code.

There are only a few clubs, most in London, which run under that system. With the relaxation of the 48/24-hour rule it is now possible to walk into most casinos. Although the vast majority require some form of ID and registration, some are now beginning to allow people to gamble for small amounts (£500-£1500) without any ID and at least three allow walk-ins Vegas-style.

Bookmakers and machine shops, which both have fruit machines with smaller limits of £500, require no ID and you can just walk in off the high street. Bingo halls are still run as members clubs, though don't require ID.

Quote: original assertion

The 4 states with no legalized gambling [besides a lottery] are Hawaii, Tennessee, Utah, and Vermont

Mission brought up charitable gaming in a previous post.

Finally looked up who has charitable gaming and it is about everybody except 'the two'

http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Charitable-Gaming/

Quote: the link

Hawaii and Utah do not have any charitable gaming laws.

So,

Quote: modified statement which I think is correct

The 4 states with no legalized gambling [besides a lottery or charitable gaming] are Hawaii, Tennessee, Utah, and Vermont. Horse racing may be the only qualifier in some states.