Mount Airy Casino $50,000 loss rebate
August 26th, 2013 at 8:20:51 PM
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Here we go again. Mount Airy in Pennsylvania is offering a 50% loss rebate up to $50,000 for new signups in September.
"New Players Club members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000! You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a five week period."
http://www.mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions
The vpFREE2 database shows several vp games over 99%. But I'll bet this promotion has sandtraps too vis a vis the word "rated." This promotion has already been posted on vpFREE so Mr. Dancer already knows about it.
"New Players Club members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000! You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a five week period."
http://www.mountairycasino.com/play/casino/promotions
The vpFREE2 database shows several vp games over 99%. But I'll bet this promotion has sandtraps too vis a vis the word "rated." This promotion has already been posted on vpFREE so Mr. Dancer already knows about it.
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August 26th, 2013 at 8:38:39 PM
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Interesting! I wonder how big their exposure actually is. Unlike Revel, Mount Airy has always had pretty good offers and promos - especially for new members. I bet this means that Mount Airy has fewer local players who could possibly take advantage of their promo. And the out-of-area folks would still need to commit to returning 10 times in October.
While Mount Airy has some of the best (read: the only) decent VP in eastern PA, they don't have very many machines.
While Mount Airy has some of the best (read: the only) decent VP in eastern PA, they don't have very many machines.
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August 27th, 2013 at 7:53:34 AM
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"Rated" does not present a problem except for people who don't know what it means.Quote: mickeycrimm... But I'll bet this promotion has sandtraps too vis a vis the word "rated.
It's an industry term meaning using a players card so the action can be tracked.
And since slot machines generally track action even in the lowest denomination, I don't see any potential loopholes.
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August 27th, 2013 at 8:00:22 AM
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Keeping in mind that the vote was 79-5 in favor of me writing about such promotions, I'll participate in this thread.
However, based on a quick look, this promotion may not be worth doing. With a 50% rebate only the optimal winning and losing goals would be much lower than the optimal Revel winning marker. This would be very much a hit and run kind of thing. However, the player is unlikely to earn the required theoretical with a low stopping point.
Let me modify my simulation to get some more specific numbers.
However, based on a quick look, this promotion may not be worth doing. With a 50% rebate only the optimal winning and losing goals would be much lower than the optimal Revel winning marker. This would be very much a hit and run kind of thing. However, the player is unlikely to earn the required theoretical with a low stopping point.
Let me modify my simulation to get some more specific numbers.
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August 27th, 2013 at 8:42:42 AM
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Quote: mickeycrimm
"New Players Club members, it's time to get paid! Play during the month of September and receive 50% of your losses back up to $50,000! You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss. Your reimbursement offer will be sent in the following month and valid through 10 offers over a five week period."
It does not say what those Ten Offers are exactly nor does it say when the five week period is. Only that the offer will be sent the following month.
August 27th, 2013 at 8:54:23 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
August 27th, 2013 at 9:20:27 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesAnd don't lose it all before the 5 hour minimum.
Well if you were going to do this seriously you could play nickel VP for 4 hours after you hit your loss goal if it happened quickly. Thats not a big deal.
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August 27th, 2013 at 2:42:54 PM
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Does anyone have a copy of the T&Cs for this offer? For example, the dates of the follow up offers?
August 27th, 2013 at 2:59:19 PM
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Quote: WizardOn the way to losing $50,000 the player should achieve both the $500 theoretical and 5-hour playing time.
Your post suggests that you need a $500 theoretical loss, I read the promotion to require at least a $500 actual loss. In other words my $100 bankroll doesn't interest them.
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August 27th, 2013 at 3:27:06 PM
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Quote: bigfoot66Your post suggests that you need a $500 theoretical loss, I read the promotion to require at least a $500 actual loss. In other words my $100 bankroll doesn't interest them.
Yep. One good things about rules like this is you have a legitimate reason to ask what your theoretical loss is, which combined with the game and how much play you did, you can determine what percentage they assume. Note this isn't necessarily the house edge, because they actually make much more, due to player error. It can be a good way to milk comps if you find a machine where the theo is too high.
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August 27th, 2013 at 4:34:50 PM
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Video Poker is excluded. End of discussion.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:53:20 PM
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Quote: JackStraw8004Video Poker is excluded. End of discussion.
How do you know?
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August 27th, 2013 at 4:54:38 PM
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I called the casino and asked them this morning.
August 27th, 2013 at 4:58:55 PM
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They also updated the Ts&Cs, though the newly placed statement reading "excludes poker" is misleading at best since they also have a poker room.
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August 27th, 2013 at 6:14:36 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusThey also updated the Ts&Cs, though the newly placed statement reading "excludes poker" is misleading at best since they also have a poker room.
I don't understand this comment. From my POV this means they aren't reimbursing losses in the poker room, which understandable. Is that not what they mean?
August 27th, 2013 at 6:17:06 PM
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Quote: PokeraddictI don't understand this comment. From my POV this means they aren't reimbursing losses in the poker room, which understandable. Is that not what they mean?
They are only reimbursing slot machine losses. No tables at all. So the "excludes poker" almost certainly correlates to the verbal confirmation that VP is excluded. It's just really horrible wording.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
August 27th, 2013 at 6:19:47 PM
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Quote:You must have at least 5 hours of rated play and at least $500 of rated slot loss.
That implies that if I lose $500 or more in slots then my 5 hours of rated table play would also apply. It would be nice if they posted the T&Cs since their advertisement seems to have multiple possible conclusions. I contacted them but have yet to hear back.
August 27th, 2013 at 7:54:02 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusSo the "excludes poker" almost certainly correlates to the verbal confirmation that VP is excluded. It's just really horrible wording.
I've heard people in the industry refer to video poker machines as "pokers" before. However, for a player-facing announcement, I agree, it is awful wording.
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August 27th, 2013 at 9:03:54 PM
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Quote: WizardI've heard people in the industry refer to video poker machines as "pokers" before. However, for a player-facing announcement, I agree, it is awful wording.
In my experiences most casino personnel refer to video poker as slot machines. Unless I saw something that said "excludes video poker" I would assume video poker is still allowed.
In Australia they call all slot machines "pokies".
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August 28th, 2013 at 4:05:35 PM
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They still have not responded to me about the full T&Cs. IMO these need to be on their website considering the unclear statements made.
