There is a Beyond Counting CAA on Craigslist if anyones interested.

Yes, it's mine. It is a relatively rare and useful book.
Thank you.

I would put it on eBay and mention the auction URL in as many gaming forums as you can, especially bj21. If I didn't already have a copy, I would be all over the opportunity.

The least you can do is give the Craigslist URL. Just going there is a good excuse to read the ads for hookers, just for fun.

I did put the Craigslist listing up but was blocked for spamming. I emailed you yesterday before I posted it to make sure it was okay to do so.

h**p://southjersey.craigslist.org/bks/4027163204.html

Thank you.

Quote: anonimuss

I did put the Craigslist listing up but was blocked for spamming. I emailed you yesterday before I posted it to make sure it was okay to do so.

Normally we don't like new members trying to sell things from post 1. However, BC2 comes up so rarely, I'll allow it. I do think your price tag is rather greedy, but nobody every said advantage players aren't.

wow, $2,750 is a lot. Here's one on ebay for $630. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Counting-Exploiting-Casino-Games-from-Blackjack-to-Video-Poker-James-G-/161083342193?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item258150bd71

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You can get the original for $625 on Amazon. I'd love to have CAA, but it's just not gonna happen at $2,750. That's a week in Maui for me and my lady. :)

ZCore13

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wow, $2,750 is a lot. Here's one on ebay for $630. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Counting-Exploiting-Casino-Games-from-Blackjack-to-Video-Poker-James-G-/161083342193?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item258150bd71

Did anyone else notice that the Ebay copy is being sold by Goodwill Industries.....could someone have dumped this at Goodwill in a box full of used books? Dohhhhhh!!!!

To put them in comparison, BC-1 has 222 pages, and BC-2 has 669.

Before anybody pays thousands of dollars, I would at least apply to buy one directly from Grosjean at www.beyondcounting.com. I also see Amazon has used copy as low as $625.

Quote: Zcore13

You can get the original for $625 on Amazon. I'd love to have CAA, but it's just not gonna happen at $2,750. That's a week in Maui for me and my lady. :)

ZCore13

With the information inside this book, you can afford many trips to Maui!!!

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Sold. Thanks everybody.

I've been on your sites for years gleaning information when necessary. Both sites have always been in my bookmarks. This, however, was my first post.

Last 2 I know of that sold on eBay were 3150 and 4K. Nothing at all greedy about my price. In fact it was very reasonable.

Quote: anonimuss

Last 2 I know of that sold on eBay were 3150 and 4K.

WTH?? Does this book come with hookers or something?

Its 13 years old, any 'secrets' it contains were long ago
revealed on every gambling forum on the net.

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New table games come out every month. Grosjean has some distribution charts in there so you can do a quick analysis of unknown games you may encounter.

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Quote: anonimuss

New table games come out every month. Grosjean has some distribution charts in there so you can do a quick analysis of unknown games you may encounter.

I'll just keep coming here, to APHeat and DiscountGambling for free and get most of the same info.

ZCore13

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CAA came out in 2009 and a lot of what's in it is not online.

The book Mike referenced came out in 2000. No matter,
Grosjean's books are now more urban myth than useful
anyway.

I have a copy of EXHIBIT CAA : BEYOND COUNTING(669 pages) for sale.

Price = $2999 + shipping, Deal ?

Still available?

What is the deal with notes on Exhibit CAA?

There is a thread over at bj21 from a few months ago in reference to the notes:

http://blackjacktheforum.com/showthread.php?3712-Beyond-counting-vs-exhibit-caa/page8&highlight=notes

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My guess is it just contains the strategies for the particular games and ignores the rest of the book.

If this is some guy cherry picking and copying the best stuff from Grosjean's book, then wouldn't that violate Grosjean's copyright? I've never seen the "notes," so am making no accusations. It is simply a hypothetical question.

Is it like Cliffnotes so you don't have to read the full version? I don't know either.
And I don't know what the relationship/deal is between Cliffnotes and the author or publisher, etc.

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I don't understand, what has stopped people from revealing the content of this book online? Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know it's protected by copyright and all, but that's never stopped anybody from doing (literally) anything else on the internet. If people aren't afraid of the deep pockets of the entire music industry, then I don't know why they'd be afraid of a single AP.

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Beethoven9th,

Not to go OT, but I was thinking the same thing in reference to full movies posted on youtube. Sometimes you can watch newly released movies before they are removed. I know most movies are removed, but wonder why others that are posted by individuals (some with hundreds of thousands of views or more) are allowed to stay.

I just busted a post by EdgeLooker for extensively posting from another board. It is the policy of his board that quoting from other sources should be done so in moderation and with proper attribution to the source. In this case, it went past what I consider "moderation."

I sincerely apologize. It won't happen again.

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Quote: EdgeLooker

I sincerely apologize. It won't happen again.

Apology accepted. Feel free to link to the posts you were referring to.

Quote: Wizard

Apology accepted. Feel free to link to the posts you were referring to.

http://blackjacktheforum.com/showthread.php?3712-Beyond-counting-vs-exhibit-caa/page7&highlight=notes

A poster named ccounter claimed to be the one selling the "notes". The thread is from back in May.

Quote: Beethoven9th

I don't understand, what has stopped people from revealing the content of this book online? Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know it's protected by copyright and all, but that's never stopped anybody from doing (literally) anything else on the internet. If people aren't afraid of the deep pockets of the entire music industry, then I don't know why they'd be afraid of a single AP.

Grosjean took on a casino. And won. In Las Vegas. If he believes in something he doesn't care who you are. And the music industry has sued people for hundreds of thousands of dollars for downloading pirated music. And won.

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Quote: anonimuss

Grosjean took on a casino. And won. In Las Vegas. If he believes in something he doesn't care who you are. And the music industry has sued people for hundreds of thousands of dollars for downloading pirated music. And won.

...yet people still share music illegally (which was my entire point).

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I don't understand, what has stopped people from revealing the content of this book online? Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know it's protected by copyright and all, but that's never stopped anybody from doing (literally) anything else on the internet. If people aren't afraid of the deep pockets of the entire music industry, then I don't know why they'd be afraid of a single AP.

Respect.

Nothing like a good flim-flam. List a book on Rbay. have a buddy bid it up. Pay ebay the commission, and WOW that book is worth $2500 LOL I am presently profiting from people who list cds or books at inflated prices in Amazon. A cd that has a rank in hundreds of thousands. Meaning it might sell in a year or two. And probably just a used one then. CD have really gone down, but when people see a new listed at $89, they raise used to 29.00. I list a new at 28.00, and bingo, sold in a few weeks LOL
Not bragging just showing how the hustle works ( you knew already, Mickey )

When I first said I though the book was just a hustle so guy could sell inflated notes afterwards, people said NO WAY. Will not happen. Grisjean will sue. He will stop this LOL

Here we are much later and I will not post a link Go to ebay yourself. There is even a video, no less. You can get the " NOTES " for less than $100. Even better than the book. DVD included.

My notes were popular last year at $198, but I am dropping the price and including the holecarding instructional DVD. If the sale does well, maybe i'll keep it up a while.







The book Beyond counting Exhibit CAA has become increasingly hard to find at any price and some have trouble understanding it. I have

written detailed notes (in my own words) that in simple terms explain the techniques employed to gain advantages that are often above

10%. The book of notes is finally complete and I shouldn't be offering it at such a low price; but for now I will keep it at a reasonable price on a

limited basis to keep the information valuable. Not only do I evaluate and go into further detail (in my usual, easy to understand way) but also, I

will go over some additional unpublished advantage play's that have surprisingly high win rates.


Includes:

Expanded info on how to beat the big six wheel


Loads of more ways to obtain hole card and next card information


craps opportunity and details on dice control and how much value it REALLY has!


Caribbean stud poker MACK count gives the player a 1.35% edge!


Roulette and Big Six 'Clocking' methods.


Beating side bets like Lucky lucky, lucky ladies, over/under, shortie, royal match, etc.


Details on beating Mississippi Stud and other HUGE expectation games!!!!!!!!


Beating the "Bad Beat Jackpot"


How to obtain information in Baccarat and Baccarat Lock Bets.


and much, much more!


If you have Beyond counting (Either Exhibit CAA or the less detailed original) and want a companion piece or cannot get the book at a fair price

(the going rate is over $2000) then this is the simplified (but very fully detailed) notes you are looking for. Each copy will be printed to order.

Only a limited number will be offered, once they are gone, they are gone.


Please note- the offer is just for detailed notes on the book "Beyond Counting Exhibit CAA", the original book "Beyond Counting Exhibit CAA" is

NOT included in this offer. This item is perfectly legal and does NOT violate copyright laws. Copyright 2012.




********Also includes "Hole Carding & other Advantage Plays" Instructional DVD**********


Hole Carding tactics in live demonstration for multiple popular games


Practical bankroll building suggestions


Camouflage and comp mastery


Stock market information.


& a whole bunch more.


DVD Runtime 150 Min (Two and a Half Hours) Hosted by yours truly, Billionaireben, copyright 2014.



HURRY UP LIMITED TIME OFFER LOL

Wow, this thread was started way back on August 26, 2013 but I can beat that. Just this morning I quoted from a thread that was started on Feb. 11, 2011. It is so controversial that it doesn't appear on the Forum page and it is in the Free Speech Zone. You must click Recent Threads to find it.

Buzz your post sounds like its right from Zengrifter.

Damn, my ognorance is showing. Now i have to google Zengrifter. LOL

" leading to a RICO-conspiracy plea
and conviction. " My kinda guy. But once the Feds put a bullseye on your back, it's over. Even let a guy cop to 19 murders, serve 4 and 1/2 years of a 5 year plea in hotels with room service while ratting on others, and keep several million in assets just to get John Gotti. Then Feds tried Junior 3 separate times on the bullshit charge that wasted tax payer's money and bled John juniors finances.


ah RICO, if there ain't a law covering smart guys, let's make one.

Quote: Buzzard

Damn, my ognorance is showing. Now i have to google Zengrifter. LOL

A quirky and knowledgeable guy. You can read his over 10,000 posts on Blackjackinfo among other places. He speaks often of his time spent at "Club Fed".