Patrick, his followers, and other insignificant people
July 7th, 2013 at 7:30:45 PM
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All patrick followers are welcome to respond to my thoughts. You cannot respond directly to me on GG(the only other site I have posted in the past since they cannot accomodate new people) and if you respond to me on patricks site you can hade behind your grand-daddy SINCE HE WILL DELETE MY RESPONSE TO YOU.
So here you can be fair and comment with the understanding that a response will ensue. Something you are not used to.
So tell me patrick followers.
Patrick claimed he was on 4-5 radio shows per week. He claimed this a year ago. Then hjust a few montths ago he said he never claimed that. When his own words were put in front of him....he then said he remembered and he was indeed on 4-5 shows per week.
So..if he is telling the truth:
why has there never been a person come on his board with a follow up question from his radio appearance? Do people make reference on his board "hey mr patrick , I just heard you on the radio and have a follow up question". You would think he would promote his website when he makes all those appearances/
why doesnt he promote those 5 weekly appearances. The more people that read that he is going to be on locally...the more people will listen, and the more people who might buy products from hiswebsite or from bookstores, or from amazon if they like what they hear.
also, many radio shows are archived,and people can research and listen, and maybe get hooked on his theories and buy his products.
it seems like it would be in his best interest to use his website as free advertising for his many many appearances
At the time of his claim...the poster, LaPrimary Follower....ASKED PATRICK TO LIST HIS RADIO STATIONS....BUT HE WAS IGNORED.
So followers.....IS HE CONNING US?
he calls himself a conman, he tells us stories how he has conned people at the race track, at the poker table, at the hotel check in desk,
is this just another one?
And if it is....how do you choose what you will believe.
So here you can be fair and comment with the understanding that a response will ensue. Something you are not used to.
So tell me patrick followers.
Patrick claimed he was on 4-5 radio shows per week. He claimed this a year ago. Then hjust a few montths ago he said he never claimed that. When his own words were put in front of him....he then said he remembered and he was indeed on 4-5 shows per week.
So..if he is telling the truth:
why has there never been a person come on his board with a follow up question from his radio appearance? Do people make reference on his board "hey mr patrick , I just heard you on the radio and have a follow up question". You would think he would promote his website when he makes all those appearances/
why doesnt he promote those 5 weekly appearances. The more people that read that he is going to be on locally...the more people will listen, and the more people who might buy products from hiswebsite or from bookstores, or from amazon if they like what they hear.
also, many radio shows are archived,and people can research and listen, and maybe get hooked on his theories and buy his products.
it seems like it would be in his best interest to use his website as free advertising for his many many appearances
At the time of his claim...the poster, LaPrimary Follower....ASKED PATRICK TO LIST HIS RADIO STATIONS....BUT HE WAS IGNORED.
So followers.....IS HE CONNING US?
he calls himself a conman, he tells us stories how he has conned people at the race track, at the poker table, at the hotel check in desk,
is this just another one?
And if it is....how do you choose what you will believe.
July 7th, 2013 at 7:32:07 PM
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Patrick doesnt alow free exchange of ideas on his board, so its only fitting that the discussions that I would have had on that board end up being posted on a more popular board with more readers. So I will start a topic for discussion,
Patrick claims and builds his theories on the basis that the long run and house edge doesnt apply to him because he only plays in the short run. Over the last 50 years he claims he never played in the long run and therefore he has escaped the long run expectations. He decalres the same applies to his followers.
The question I have for his followers is.....WHAT PROOF DOES PATRICK SHOW THAT BACKS UP THIS CLAIM.
Dont give me anecdotal storeis. Give me scientific evidence.
dont tell me that the definition of the "long run" is a billion hands and no one plays a billion hands. If you do...please post the link showing that the long run starts at a billion. That is your made up nonsnese....please stick to facts and proof.
its nice to declare something....but please show me the proof that patrick provides that makes you believe this
I know his lifestyle living in lutz florida, relegated to gambling illegally and not having the funds to visit vegas is not indicative of "success"...so you cant point to his great lifestyle as proof his declarations are valid. He often refers to where he lives as "hades". Is this the life that a patrick follower aspires to?
Also he has claimed with his new improved BS for BJ....he has brought the vig down to zero. Please provide proof of this declaration.
I am the only one who asks for proof. Its a valid way to go. Its not up to me to prove him wrong. He makes the declaration...he has the burdon of proof.
On his board, calmly asking for proof labels one a "math boy"......and a dismissal via deletion or banning.
fair enough
but over here there is no such deletion option
Patrick has to put up or shut up. Or at least his followers have to put up or shut up.
all I ask to start are those 2 simple questions. Proof of the long run not applying, and proof that his new BS is not only improvent on the standard BS...but actually brings the vig to zero.
Is there basis to these 2 declarations...or is it just a house of cards built on a foundation of stale yougert.
Patrick claims and builds his theories on the basis that the long run and house edge doesnt apply to him because he only plays in the short run. Over the last 50 years he claims he never played in the long run and therefore he has escaped the long run expectations. He decalres the same applies to his followers.
The question I have for his followers is.....WHAT PROOF DOES PATRICK SHOW THAT BACKS UP THIS CLAIM.
Dont give me anecdotal storeis. Give me scientific evidence.
dont tell me that the definition of the "long run" is a billion hands and no one plays a billion hands. If you do...please post the link showing that the long run starts at a billion. That is your made up nonsnese....please stick to facts and proof.
its nice to declare something....but please show me the proof that patrick provides that makes you believe this
I know his lifestyle living in lutz florida, relegated to gambling illegally and not having the funds to visit vegas is not indicative of "success"...so you cant point to his great lifestyle as proof his declarations are valid. He often refers to where he lives as "hades". Is this the life that a patrick follower aspires to?
Also he has claimed with his new improved BS for BJ....he has brought the vig down to zero. Please provide proof of this declaration.
I am the only one who asks for proof. Its a valid way to go. Its not up to me to prove him wrong. He makes the declaration...he has the burdon of proof.
On his board, calmly asking for proof labels one a "math boy"......and a dismissal via deletion or banning.
fair enough
but over here there is no such deletion option
Patrick has to put up or shut up. Or at least his followers have to put up or shut up.
all I ask to start are those 2 simple questions. Proof of the long run not applying, and proof that his new BS is not only improvent on the standard BS...but actually brings the vig to zero.
Is there basis to these 2 declarations...or is it just a house of cards built on a foundation of stale yougert.
July 7th, 2013 at 7:36:38 PM
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July 7th, 2013 at 7:41:28 PM
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Oops, yet another Patrick thread. Watch what happens now. :)
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 7th, 2013 at 7:42:45 PM
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Quote: WizardNovember 12th, 2010 at 7:42:41
5. Do not post the same message more than once. This includes posting the same message in two or more places, and re-posting because nobody replied the first time. If you didn't get a response the first time, chances are nobody else had anything to say about it.
July 7th, 2013 at 7:44:11 PM
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yes its time to delete flamers trying to derail properly posed threads and topics.
I agree...talking about someones age, declaring "obsession", holding oneself up as the braintrust of "the rest of the world"...and derailing a valid topic with those idiotic posts..does deserve the attention of a monitor
thank you aces
i didnt think you had the mental acuity mr aces
I agree...talking about someones age, declaring "obsession", holding oneself up as the braintrust of "the rest of the world"...and derailing a valid topic with those idiotic posts..does deserve the attention of a monitor
thank you aces
i didnt think you had the mental acuity mr aces
July 7th, 2013 at 7:48:12 PM
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July 7th, 2013 at 7:54:18 PM
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well then u worry about your 100 percent of a brain, and I will use my 1 percent of a brain How Isee fit.
if you want to grow up one day to be a board monitor...I totally support you. Right now you are not.
it seems that my 1 percent of a brain is doing just fine.
try to keep on topic, or else I will cry like a baby to the real board monitor
if you want to grow up one day to be a board monitor...I totally support you. Right now you are not.
it seems that my 1 percent of a brain is doing just fine.
try to keep on topic, or else I will cry like a baby to the real board monitor
July 7th, 2013 at 8:01:52 PM
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Quote: LarrySSo followers.....IS HE CONNING US?.
Yes, probably, but Patrick is irrelevant these days. He's not doing speaking gigs, he's not on the radio, so he's just another chump author out there. Until he raises his head here, why not leave him alone? I swear he gets more press from one or two people attacking him than he gets by his own witterings on his own board.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
July 7th, 2013 at 8:10:55 PM
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I see that LarryS has started three threads about John Patrick in the last week or so. Let this be a public warning to not start any more. I'd like to think that most members of this forum already know that John Patrick is a quack and not very interested to talk about him.
Any new threads about Patrick started by LarryS will be cause for suspension. Please try me. I'm in a foul mood and eager to ban somebody.
Any new threads about Patrick started by LarryS will be cause for suspension. Please try me. I'm in a foul mood and eager to ban somebody.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 7th, 2013 at 8:13:18 PM
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In keeping on topic, my suspicion is you are right. He is not on radio, or doing seminars at least not in the quantity that he crows about. He however is not retired. He has theories and declarations that may or may not lose people money. He sells a sports service that may or may not lose people money. In my opinion its worth discussion. You may feel its not worth discussion. Thats fine. I feel its worth discussing, you dont. So in a free world you can dismiss this thread and never read on, and I can continue to have the discussion. As long as I am courteous to people who tell me to go away and explain that I would rather not....then its clear I am not going anywhere...and this adlult discussion will continue with your blessing or without. Again this thread isnt a discussion as to whether I should discuss this topic. I am not asking for permission or for your approval.
So i do agree with your opinion on the radio appearances, and seminars. But I dont really care about your approval or dissaproval of the topic.
So i do agree with your opinion on the radio appearances, and seminars. But I dont really care about your approval or dissaproval of the topic.
July 7th, 2013 at 8:20:38 PM
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Wizard
I respect your right to suspend or delete just I do of patrick on his site.
If you notice the comments on the 2 other threads have been deleted due to the flaming of evenbob and aces on off topic subjects..attachking me rather than discussing the topic. I deleted them an hour ago and moved them to this thread as even bob and aces seem to want to be a board monitor rather than dscuss a topic.
I follow your wishes and not post another thread on this topic
However I ask that the massive posts by evenbob telling me not to post on this topic cease.
I respect your right to suspend or delete just I do of patrick on his site.
If you notice the comments on the 2 other threads have been deleted due to the flaming of evenbob and aces on off topic subjects..attachking me rather than discussing the topic. I deleted them an hour ago and moved them to this thread as even bob and aces seem to want to be a board monitor rather than dscuss a topic.
I follow your wishes and not post another thread on this topic
However I ask that the massive posts by evenbob telling me not to post on this topic cease.
July 7th, 2013 at 8:24:25 PM
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I changed my mind, lets talk about JP. I like his
stories about Vegas in the early 60's. How he used
the Marty to play 10 cent roulette for weeks and
was ahead and thought he had it made and the
bottom fell out over night. I like Patrick's old
Vegas stories, he's a dying breed. Literally.
stories about Vegas in the early 60's. How he used
the Marty to play 10 cent roulette for weeks and
was ahead and thought he had it made and the
bottom fell out over night. I like Patrick's old
Vegas stories, he's a dying breed. Literally.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 7th, 2013 at 8:30:45 PM
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Ah yes, his tales of dumpster diving ... priceless.
Him getting involved in a soft-serve ice cream enterprise with some bent noses in NJ: classic.
Him getting involved in a soft-serve ice cream enterprise with some bent noses in NJ: classic.
"What, me worry?"
July 7th, 2013 at 8:31:38 PM
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July 7th, 2013 at 8:33:45 PM
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I have a lot of admiration for JP, he's been there
and done it. He came up thru the ranks. Agree
with him or not, he's the real thing. He's written
books and had a TV show, and he's all over Amazon.
I like the guy personally, even tho I don't agree with
all his techniques.
and done it. He came up thru the ranks. Agree
with him or not, he's the real thing. He's written
books and had a TV show, and he's all over Amazon.
I like the guy personally, even tho I don't agree with
all his techniques.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 7th, 2013 at 8:36:34 PM
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July 7th, 2013 at 8:52:33 PM
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Quote: WizardI see that LarryS has started three threads about John Patrick in the last week or so. Let this be a public warning to not start any more. I'd like to think that most members of this forum already know that John Patrick is a quack and not very interested to talk about him.
Any new threads about Patrick started by LarryS will be cause for suspension. Please try me. I'm in a foul mood and eager to ban somebody.
I personally think you are being generous not issuing the suspension yet.
But there is also good news, LarryS, I think everyone on this forum generally agrees with you!! :D Any true Patrick believers would immediately get chewed a new one here. Basic Strategy is blackjack has clearly been studied/solved.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI read one of his bj books and if you can skip the rediculousness of his "strategy" it wasn't that bad.
I wouldn't doubt this either, as is 90-whatever% percent of Rob Singer's VP strategy. But both of these are "solved games". A certain strategy is better than the rest...so...um, use the best strategy!
July 7th, 2013 at 9:47:28 PM
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another wannabe board monitor. shoot for the stars....
July 7th, 2013 at 10:01:51 PM
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I have a lot of admiration for JP, he's been there
and done it. >>>
do you admire it when he talks about conning people at poker with an accomplice
do you admire that after all those years playing perfectly(according to him) and all the money from his day jobs of tv, books, and sports service....he can afford to live in what he refers to as "hades", relegated to gambling illegally at underground casinos, and not regularly going to vegas or the like which he says he craves.
do you admire how he pathetically glows about being on 5 radio shows a week, but no one can figure out where
do you admire how he talked about seminars he gives, some with over 200 people? but people from all those seminars dont seem to go on his board and talk about being there or ask follow up questions. I guess you can admire that he is so thorough at the seminars that there are never any follow up questions needed.
do you admire how he protects his house of cards theories by deleting people just for content.
do you admire he admits to putting out incorrect info about BJ in his first book just so he could satisfy the wishes of a publisher?
He does have the gift of gab. He can be very engaging in public. Except when it comes to the internet, a wink and a smile dont seem to go as far. You have to get by with real factual working info. So yes a wink and a smile works on a tv show for a while, till that show lost support. But a wink and a smile doesnt hold much water on the internet. As far as tv, he was in the right place at the right time in NJ when gambling first started.
thats what must be so frustrating for him. All his life he coud get by with his gift of gab, and a wink and a smile. Then someone like me comes along and asks specific questions that cant be sidestepped with a storey about selling ice cream, or diverting attention to whats in his other hand. So the real nasty side of him emerges. The show biz side retreats, and his real self emerges.
something to be admired. I cant fault you.
ohyeah
and done it. >>>
do you admire it when he talks about conning people at poker with an accomplice
do you admire that after all those years playing perfectly(according to him) and all the money from his day jobs of tv, books, and sports service....he can afford to live in what he refers to as "hades", relegated to gambling illegally at underground casinos, and not regularly going to vegas or the like which he says he craves.
do you admire how he pathetically glows about being on 5 radio shows a week, but no one can figure out where
do you admire how he talked about seminars he gives, some with over 200 people? but people from all those seminars dont seem to go on his board and talk about being there or ask follow up questions. I guess you can admire that he is so thorough at the seminars that there are never any follow up questions needed.
do you admire how he protects his house of cards theories by deleting people just for content.
do you admire he admits to putting out incorrect info about BJ in his first book just so he could satisfy the wishes of a publisher?
He does have the gift of gab. He can be very engaging in public. Except when it comes to the internet, a wink and a smile dont seem to go as far. You have to get by with real factual working info. So yes a wink and a smile works on a tv show for a while, till that show lost support. But a wink and a smile doesnt hold much water on the internet. As far as tv, he was in the right place at the right time in NJ when gambling first started.
thats what must be so frustrating for him. All his life he coud get by with his gift of gab, and a wink and a smile. Then someone like me comes along and asks specific questions that cant be sidestepped with a storey about selling ice cream, or diverting attention to whats in his other hand. So the real nasty side of him emerges. The show biz side retreats, and his real self emerges.
something to be admired. I cant fault you.
ohyeah
July 7th, 2013 at 10:22:25 PM
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I don't know who this Patrick is, but it sounds to me he would end up getting me suspended for challenging and debunking his lies in every post. I'm still tired from all the dice control/infuencer coo-coo's.
ZCore13
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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
July 7th, 2013 at 10:25:08 PM
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July 7th, 2013 at 10:36:38 PM
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Oh cool. Send him my way. :)
ZCore13
ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
July 7th, 2013 at 10:38:30 PM
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I like the way JP is on his forum, he doesn't take crap from anybody.
He's a crusty old dude who's paid his dues, he has right to say what
he likes on his own board. More power to him..
He's a crusty old dude who's paid his dues, he has right to say what
he likes on his own board. More power to him..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 7th, 2013 at 10:49:03 PM
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Question: does JP's advice hurt players or just reduces losses by a weak amount? All I remember about him was his infomercials.
I am a robot.
July 7th, 2013 at 11:22:25 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleQuestion: does JP's advice hurt players or just reduces losses by a weak amount? All I remember about him was his infomercials.
I think if you follow JP's methods, you simply lose less. That's not a bad thing.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
July 7th, 2013 at 11:24:44 PM
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Quote: DeMangoI think if you follow JP's methods, you simply lose less. That's not a bad thing.
Less than basic strategy? Or less because you play less?
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
July 7th, 2013 at 11:25:37 PM
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A lot of regression after a win and hedging.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
July 7th, 2013 at 11:41:11 PM
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Quote: DeMangoA lot of regression after a win and hedging.
How does that change the fundamental EV of a game?
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
July 7th, 2013 at 11:54:51 PM
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Quote: DeMangoI think if you follow JP's methods, you simply lose less. That's not a bad thing.
via blackjack? I would like to see this in more detail if so.
I fully admit that I only play 1 coin at VP to minimize hourly loss, even though on a percentage basis, it is the worse play than the max bet. But I have never seen that scenario exist for blackjack.
July 8th, 2013 at 1:49:22 AM
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Gentlemen: It doesn't change the negative ev In fact hedging increases it. But the actions lower your bets, therefore lower your losses. This concept excites the uneducated masses, therefore he still has a few followers.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
July 8th, 2013 at 2:24:53 AM
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Quote: DeMangoGentlemen: It doesn't change the negative ev In fact hedging increases it. But the actions lower your bets, therefore lower your losses. This concept excites the uneducated masses, therefore he still has a few followers.
Personally I dunno what this guy preaches, so this doesn't help me much. :( But no way I am looking this up tonight, I should have probably been in bed about 2 hours ago. :-\ Hedging doesn't sound like a very good idea though. :-\
July 8th, 2013 at 7:55:48 AM
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Quote: DeMangoGentlemen: It doesn't change the negative ev In fact hedging increases it. But the actions lower your bets, therefore lower your losses. This concept excites the uneducated masses, therefore he still has a few followers.
Gotcha, you say his methods make for lower action overall than flat betting (which is all you can ever compare to). I certainly didn't get that from his Craps book.
His sporting bets tips are some of the most labyrinthine pages of woo-woo I've ever seen. I am sure it makes sense to someone out there, though.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
July 8th, 2013 at 5:57:32 PM
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I admit I do love some of his characters he invents at the craps tables including "Imus Pressit". I see that dumb ass all the time!
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
July 8th, 2013 at 6:09:27 PM
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he has claimed that his new improved BS brings the vig in BJ down to zero. I thought that was such an incredible claim that I asked for proof. After all if it were really true, his face would be on the front cover of every gambling magazine...as well as on newsweek and Time.
I was hoping that a follower of his would come here and educate us with proof.
I have not even seen proof that his new improved BS is even slightly better than the standard BS....let alone so much better to bring the vig to zero.
Heck if it were true...i would imagine every casino would close down their BJ tables....or at lest change the payouts.
still waiting for his supporters to respond.
He has every right to post whatever he wants on his board....and people have every right to admire the way he is so brave bashing others while at the same time not giving them a chance to respond. Some admire cowardice. Its a free country.
Oh yes,,he is such a brave man,,,,seemingly not taking any crap from anyone. Easy to do when you have your finger on a delete button. Its easy to be very very brave. Its easy to give the impression that when you speak, your words are so powerfull..no one will answer. Not really the case....the delete button shows him to be more of the cowardly lion...just looking for a grain of courage.
I was hoping that a follower of his would come here and educate us with proof.
I have not even seen proof that his new improved BS is even slightly better than the standard BS....let alone so much better to bring the vig to zero.
Heck if it were true...i would imagine every casino would close down their BJ tables....or at lest change the payouts.
still waiting for his supporters to respond.
He has every right to post whatever he wants on his board....and people have every right to admire the way he is so brave bashing others while at the same time not giving them a chance to respond. Some admire cowardice. Its a free country.
Oh yes,,he is such a brave man,,,,seemingly not taking any crap from anyone. Easy to do when you have your finger on a delete button. Its easy to be very very brave. Its easy to give the impression that when you speak, your words are so powerfull..no one will answer. Not really the case....the delete button shows him to be more of the cowardly lion...just looking for a grain of courage.
July 8th, 2013 at 7:14:54 PM
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Quote: LarryShe has claimed that his new improved BS brings the vig in BJ down to zero. I thought that was such an incredible claim that I asked for proof. After all if it were really true, his face would be on the front cover of every gambling magazine...as well as on newsweek and Time.
I was hoping that a follower of his would come here and educate us with proof.
They won't.
Quote:I have not even seen proof that his new improved BS is even slightly better than the standard BS....let alone so much better to bring the vig to zero.
It isn't. Basic Strategy is optimal given a top-of-the-deck composition. That's the whole point. For any given set of player cards and dealer upcard, there is exactly one optimal play. Basic Strategy is *defined* as the collection of those optimal plays for all combinations of player cards and dealer upcards. Any change is necessarily suboptimal. Therefore, whatever the allegedly "new improved BS" is, it is actually worse than real Basic Strategy.
n.b. I assume "BS" in your quote means Basic Strategy. If it instead means what it normally means, it's entirely possible for BS to be new and improved. That's often what sells gambling books.
Quote:still waiting for his supporters to respond.
They're not here. Who are you having this debate with?
Is it your intent to recruit those supporters to join this forum so you can argue with them here?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 8th, 2013 at 7:23:33 PM
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Quote: MathExtremist
n.b. I assume "BS" in your quote means Basic Strategy. If it instead means what it normally means, it's entirely possible for BS to be new and improved. That's often what sells gambling books.
LOL
July 8th, 2013 at 7:25:21 PM
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It is my intent to have the conversation with them that patrick wouldnt allow on his board for fear that his house of cards comes tumbling down.
so when I was no longer allowed to post or respond on patricks board due to deletions...and went to GG...it was cumbersome because that board doesnt support new members...and patrick followers responded to me on the patrick board with no response allowed by me. And I responded on the GG board with no response allowed to them .
So here we are...they have freedom to stand on their own 2 feet and not depend on grandpa to protect them with deletions.
am I going to argue with them as you put it?
nope/// JUST a friendly debate.
other can choose to avoid this thread...others may join in.
I dont need to gain permission from wannabe board monitors.
all that counts is that mr Wizard thinks its a fair topic.
so when I was no longer allowed to post or respond on patricks board due to deletions...and went to GG...it was cumbersome because that board doesnt support new members...and patrick followers responded to me on the patrick board with no response allowed by me. And I responded on the GG board with no response allowed to them .
So here we are...they have freedom to stand on their own 2 feet and not depend on grandpa to protect them with deletions.
am I going to argue with them as you put it?
nope/// JUST a friendly debate.
other can choose to avoid this thread...others may join in.
I dont need to gain permission from wannabe board monitors.
all that counts is that mr Wizard thinks its a fair topic.
July 8th, 2013 at 8:16:43 PM
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Quote: LarrySIt is my intent to have the conversation with them that patrick wouldnt allow on his board for fear that his house of cards comes tumbling down.
so when I was no longer allowed to post or respond on patricks board due to deletions...and went to GG...it was cumbersome because that board doesnt support new members...and patrick followers responded to me on the patrick board with no response allowed by me. And I responded on the GG board with no response allowed to them .
Star-crossed lovers, indeed, but I doubt you'll find a dance partner here.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 8th, 2013 at 8:25:46 PM
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It would be sporting if Frank Stanton came over to debate on behalf of his guru.
"What, me worry?"
July 8th, 2013 at 8:49:16 PM
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stanton.stupor dave, kenny boy,dragon. la follower, rick k, Mike the 13 year old girl(omg lolx100)...any would be fine. I dont bite.
July 8th, 2013 at 9:24:00 PM
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,,,>>>YOU KNOW YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A BIG JACKASS IF kEN OF ALL PEOPLE TAKES YOU TO TASK
you are a real tough guy.
your use of the words like cheerce and pert really makes you look tough.
too bad you need to hide behinde a "girl".
what a coward.>>>>>> something I posted for patrick to see...he will see it....but wont let it be posted.
the big man just threatened some poster named perry....talking tough....he is a real tough guy when he can hide behind a delete button
you are a real tough guy.
your use of the words like cheerce and pert really makes you look tough.
too bad you need to hide behinde a "girl".
what a coward.>>>>>> something I posted for patrick to see...he will see it....but wont let it be posted.
the big man just threatened some poster named perry....talking tough....he is a real tough guy when he can hide behind a delete button
July 8th, 2013 at 9:25:48 PM
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This is what happens when people don't take their meds. SIGH
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 8th, 2013 at 9:26:40 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
July 8th, 2013 at 9:28:56 PM
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popcorn does not interact with zyprexa...you are good to go
July 9th, 2013 at 3:24:55 AM
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Quote: LarrySpopcorn does not interact with zyprexa...you are good to go
HaHa!
July 9th, 2013 at 4:13:30 AM
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Has anyone notified the minions over there that there is now an open forum for polite conversation?
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
July 9th, 2013 at 7:07:12 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
July 9th, 2013 at 10:02:18 AM
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Quote: LarrySstanton.stupor dave, kenny boy,dragon. la follower, rick k, Mike the 13 year old girl(omg lolx100)...any would be fine. I dont bite.
Wow! You guys don't pull any punches on the GG site. Is Ken the restaurant owner who used to post here as mrjjj?
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
July 9th, 2013 at 2:59:52 PM
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LarryS, I gotta ask - What's your end game?
I've followed your posting on GG for quite a bit now. Your points made will find no argument from me. I think a vast majority of people, pretty much everyone sans the very few faithful followers on Patrick's board, see him as sort of a kook as far as gaming goes. Even before I came here for my education, I saw what he put out and could only think "wtf?", and I'm no brainiac...
I guess I see a guy (Patrick) who has very little influence and almost no clout, I believe that the majority likewise see him that way, and I can't understand your crusade.
It's like you're killing yourself trying to singlehandedly sink the Titanic, when everyone knows with complete certainty that it's already going down, all on its own.
I've followed your posting on GG for quite a bit now. Your points made will find no argument from me. I think a vast majority of people, pretty much everyone sans the very few faithful followers on Patrick's board, see him as sort of a kook as far as gaming goes. Even before I came here for my education, I saw what he put out and could only think "wtf?", and I'm no brainiac...
I guess I see a guy (Patrick) who has very little influence and almost no clout, I believe that the majority likewise see him that way, and I can't understand your crusade.
It's like you're killing yourself trying to singlehandedly sink the Titanic, when everyone knows with complete certainty that it's already going down, all on its own.
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