Safety Deposit Boxes in Vegas

When i go to vegas i mostly play poker. However when i do this, i usually bring a good amount of money with me. Usually 10k+. I do not play table games or slots anymore. The thing is its such a hassle to keep so much money in your wallet. Along with that, you could get pickpocketed or even drop your money on the floor if you are not careful.

I know in vegas, there are poker room boxes at Venetian, Aria, Bellagio and Wynn. I read the other rooms don't have these boxes. Is this true? I have heard in order to get these, you need to be a regular at the poker room who plays a lot and i read online that it takes at least 3 months minimum to get a box because its almost always full and you need to be put on the waitlist to get one. Anyone have this or any information

But if i'm staying at a hotel, is it true every vegas casino you could use the safety deposit box at the cage? I know they have these safe deposit box in the hotel room but i'm very weary of using those because i seen youtube videos of how easy it is to open one. So thus keeping it in the cage is basically risk free.

Does anyone know about these safe deposit boxes and have used it? Its different than depositng and withdrawing money from the cage right where you get a receipt everytime? I read someone mentioned these safe deposit boxes at the cashier are available for all guests that are staying at the casino. So you could only use these if you are a guest right and once your checkout date is up if you stay at hotel, you can't use it anymore? If this is the case, for someone who lives in vegas and plays poker full time or plays blackjack full time, isn't a box an absolute necessity? Because it would be a huge hassle going to the bank everyday depositing and withdrawing and then go to the casino. So if you have a box, then you could leave your money there and take it whenever needed without a hassle.

Now for someone that plays poker full time at say the venetian, it would be very easy to keep your money in a poker room box b/c whenever you need more money, u can get it from your box and whenever you are done playing, you just leave your money there so you aren't carrying a lot of money. But for someone that isn't a local and only here for a few months and thus would be on a waiting list for a poker room box, how would one be able to keep their money in a safe place? I have heard in Atlantic City at the Borgata, they offer these things called a temp box where you go to the front desk and get it and its good for 2 months and then they close it and next day you could open a new one. Its basically like a safety deposit box and they dont know what you have in there so its like a poker room box in a way except its temporary. Does anyone know if there is anything like this for vegas and which casinos?

As I understand it, casinos will generally make safe deposit boxes available in the cage area for the approximate duration of a guest's expected stay. Physical entry into your box is the only way to withdraw anything, it is not a deposit that has been made with the cashier, it is simply that physical access to your own safe deposit box is limited by its location in the cage area.

Some have used tobacco humidors, some have used 24 hour private mailboxes but such firms are often considered insecure jokes.

Some simply use a bank safe deposit box and adapt to any bank hour limitations there might be.

I've not actually used any such boxes as they are usually only needed by high limit poker players with unusual hours.

I recall reading a story a year or two ago (approx.) about a private vault or safe deposit facility near the strip that allegedly was "robbed," causing much misery and woe to its depositors.

Any follow up?

Bad guys caught?

Any insurance available to cover the depositor's loss?

What happens in Vegas ...

I don't get the desire to bring all that cash with you.

Why not just set up an account with the casino credit office and mail a check prior to your trip? Then just withdraw it and redeposit it as needed.

What am I missing?


Unless you doing money laundering, why bring cash?

Many people don't want the casino to have personal information for a variety of reasons.

Quote: 1arrowheaddr

Many people don't want the casino to have personal information for a variety of reasons.

Agreed. But that plan goes out the window if the person is staying in the hotel at the casino.

That "allegedly was robbed" stuff deserves its quotation marks: instant suspicions and instant comparisons to a cracker box.

I don't see what the problem is either. You are either a high enough roller to get accommodations when you need them or you are not.
If you are not, you fill out a casino safe deposit box slip or else you open up a Front Money Account and make your draws against that.

For a Front Money Account they don't need that much information and they probably already have it and more if you've had a room there. You extend them credit in a front money account, they don't extend you credit. So they comply with the regulations thats about it. The only problem with a Front Money Account is that YOU and only You have to be physically present to draw chips at a table and YOU and only You have to be physically present to draw CASH from the cage area. They won't give you CASH at a table and they won't give chips or cash to a designee if you are in-town but not on the premises. They don't want you doing your gambling elsewhere if they've been acting as your banker but if you must draw cash and then go to some high stakes game so be it, just come get it yourself.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

I don't get the desire to bring all that cash with you.

Why not just set up an account with the casino credit office and mail a check prior to your trip? Then just withdraw it and redeposit it as needed.

What am I missing?


Unless you doing money laundering, why bring cash?

Are you talking about casino credit that has to do with markers? If so, the reason is because I don't plan to play any table games or slot machines. I know how ppl wire money to the casino cage and then withdraw the money at the table games, but i have no desire to give them table game action. And b/c of that, i cannot withdraw the money. Casinos don't see any benefits much from poker players b/c they don't make much off of them.


I play poker so i would need a decent bankroll with me that i have access to. I usually buyin for 1k in poker so if i'm ever down 2 or 3 buyins which is 2k or 3k but i still want to play, then i can go to my safety deposit box to get more money. Or if im playing and then a big fish comes to the table and buy ins very deep like 5k, i want to have 5k to cover him. Imagine a situation where i want to buyin deep but can't b/c its late at night and all the banks are closed. How will i access more money? The ATM limit is usually 1k max and you have to pay a ridiculous fee to withdraw 1k. With a safety deposit box, i can go to cashier get my cash or leave my money there and dont have to pay fees. Along with that, the money is safe. So whenever i go to and leave the casino, i dont need to be carryng a lot of money on me.


The only time when i would be when i take that money from the deposit box and then head to the bank to deposit it. Who wants to have 5 figures on them all the time?

Quote: Pauly8

Are you talking about casino credit that has to do with markers? If so, the reason is because I don't plan to play any table games or slot machines. I know how ppl wire money to the casino cage and then withdraw the money at the table games, but i have no desire to give them table game action. And b/c of that, i cannot withdraw the money. Casinos don't see any benefits much from poker players b/c they don't make much off of them.

You can also withdraw your money at the cage. Or, in some houses, buy chips there against your account.

Quote: FleaStiff

As I understand it, casinos will generally make safe deposit boxes available in the cage area for the approximate duration of a guest's expected stay. Physical entry into your box is the only way to withdraw anything, it is not a deposit that has been made with the cashier, it is simply that physical access to your own safe deposit box is limited by its location in the cage area.

Some have used tobacco humidors, some have used 24 hour private mailboxes but such firms are often considered insecure jokes.

Some simply use a bank safe deposit box and adapt to any bank hour limitations there might be.

I've not actually used any such boxes as they are usually only needed by high limit poker players with unusual hours.

I have a bank deposit box at my bank. However, the problem is you can't access it when the bank closes. The other problem is you need to drive there which is a huge hassle. I play poker at night so this isn't good for me since i start playing late usually.

Some places, yes, you can get a credit line from a cash deposit, but it's usually quite hefty a minimum of somewhere around $2,000 to open one. In many ways, this seems safer than a deposit box to me. Also of note, some places do not require staying at the hotel to use a safe deposit box. Each casino is different, so you'll always have to make an inquiry yourself beforehand.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Some places, yes, you can get a credit line from a cash deposit, but it's usually quite hefty a minimum of somewhere around $2,000 to open one. In many ways, this seems safer than a deposit box to me. Also of note, some places do not require staying at the hotel to use a safe deposit box. Each casino is different, so you'll always have to make an inquiry yourself beforehand.

I'm not familar with credit line or marker. All I do know that is that its a huge hassle and not good if you don't play table games which I don't plan to. I'm only to play poker.


I don't know why you say thats safer than a deposit box. All money in a safety box at a casino is safe and you dont have to worry about it. However, if its an inroom safe thats a different story and im not talking about these because you can only use it when you staying at the casino hotel. If i was staying at a casino, i would be using the casino cage safety box because your valuables will be 100 percent safe. But im talking about if one can get one if you aren't staying at a casino. Such as a poker player that lives in vegas but not on the strip and has to drive to the strip casino poker room everytime to play.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Some places, yes, you can get a credit line from a cash deposit, but it's usually quite hefty a minimum of somewhere around $2,000 to open one. In many ways, this seems safer than a deposit box to me. Also of note, some places do not require staying at the hotel to use a safe deposit box. Each casino is different, so you'll always have to make an inquiry yourself beforehand.

Also many of you guys mention wiring money. First off, I don't want to be charged $85 wire fee everytime i deposit money from my bank to the casino and vice versa.

Quote: Pauly8

I play poker so i would need a decent bankroll with me that i have access to. I usually buyin for 1k in poker so if i'm ever down 2 or 3 buyins which is 2k or 3k but i still want to play, then i can go to my safety deposit box to get more money. Or if im playing and then a big fish comes to the table and buy ins very deep like 5k, i want to have 5k to cover him. Imagine a situation where i want to buyin deep but can't b/c its late at night and all the banks are closed. How will i access more money? The ATM limit is usually 1k max and you have to pay a ridiculous fee to withdraw 1k. With a safety deposit box, i can go to cashier get my cash or leave my money there and dont have to pay fees. Along with that, the money is safe. So whenever i go to and leave the casino, i dont need to be carryng a lot of money on me.


The only time when i would be when i take that money from the deposit box and then head to the bank to deposit it. Who wants to have 5 figures on them all the time?

You might get your answer if you try a poker site like 2+2.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/200/regional-communities/atlantic-city-general-discussion-1087675/

Just as an aside:
Concerning Iron Mountain a business data storage firm doing business on several continents:

In Argentina, Iron Mountain boasts a private fireproof building with its own police force, its own triple-independent fire sprinkler system and its own on-site fully trained and equipped fire department. Ofcourse it also has the usual access controls and vehicle approach barriers that are common in Buenos Aires.

Two months ago the US Supreme Court granted plaintiffs access to the 2001 Argentina Bank and Currency Reorganization records kept at Iron Mountain. Recently, the company regretted to announce that those records and only those records were consumed by a fire at the ultra-secure structure.

So, so much for private storage vaults. If anyone really wants what you keep there, they will get it! Somehow!

Quote: FleaStiff

those records and only those records were consumed by a fire at the ultra-secure structure.

A surgical fire. Hate it when that happens... ;-)

Keep your money in $500 chip form. Put a buy in or two in the little side pocket on your jeans. Then put the rest in like a crown royal bag attached to a belt loop and hang the bag down the inside of the front of your jeans. Casinos on the strip will usually honor chips from other casinos on the strip and will always honor them if the properties are owned by the same corporation.