Roulette question
March 31st, 2013 at 5:42:00 PM
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I know there is a term for betting a number in every way it can come up. For example, red 7, you would bet the number straight up, the corners, odd, red, first third, third column, etc. What is that called and where can I find out about it?
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March 31st, 2013 at 5:46:27 PM
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Is this possible? That is, would the chips fit around the square, since if it's in the center column, you have to put what amounts to a 3x3 array of chips around it? (To bet the 5, for example, you put chips:
(a) on the 1-2-4-5 corner;
(b) between the 2 and the 5;
(c) on the 2-3-5-6 corner;
(d) between the 4 and the 5;
(e) on the 5;
(f) between the 5 and the 6;
(g) on the 4-5-7-8 corner;
(h) between the 5 and the 8;
and (i) on the 5-6-8-9 corner?
(a) on the 1-2-4-5 corner;
(b) between the 2 and the 5;
(c) on the 2-3-5-6 corner;
(d) between the 4 and the 5;
(e) on the 5;
(f) between the 5 and the 6;
(g) on the 4-5-7-8 corner;
(h) between the 5 and the 8;
and (i) on the 5-6-8-9 corner?
March 31st, 2013 at 5:56:50 PM
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Full complete. That is the phrase I've heard, and it also means the bets are in proportion: one unit on the number, two on the splits, etc.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
March 31st, 2013 at 6:00:47 PM
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That is for the inside bets onlyQuote: thecesspitFull complete. That is the phrase I've heard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette#Full_completes.2Fmaximums
to include all the outside bets also, I have never seen a term for it, not that there isn't one
It is not in Roulette Xtreme, so I do not know
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
March 31st, 2013 at 6:09:01 PM
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Yes, that's it! Thanks.
For example, a complete bet on 17, with a $1000 unit, would be equivalent to this set of straight-up bets:
$2000 on 13
$4000 on 14
$2000 on 15
$6000 on 16
$12000 on 17
$6000 on 18
$2000 on 19
$4000 on 20
$2000 on 21
Is this correct?
For example, a complete bet on 17, with a $1000 unit, would be equivalent to this set of straight-up bets:
$2000 on 13
$4000 on 14
$2000 on 15
$6000 on 16
$12000 on 17
$6000 on 18
$2000 on 19
$4000 on 20
$2000 on 21
Is this correct?
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March 31st, 2013 at 8:26:20 PM
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I hope you found your answer. More interested in why?Quote: teliotYes, that's it! Thanks.
Is this correct?
12 units on the 17 would pay 35*12= 420 units
A complete pays 392 units for a #17 hit
392/35 will not work out
even if you add the outside bets, that adds only 7 units to the win
added: Ah, 4 units on each outside bet does work.
Got it
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
March 31st, 2013 at 8:31:06 PM
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Shouldn't you have some on Black and Odd also?
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March 31st, 2013 at 8:40:00 PM
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Yeah that should work.Quote: Zcore13Shouldn't you have some on Black and Odd also?
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But with a max bet of 1 unit straight-up one could certainly bet more than 4 units on an outside number to arrive at his 420 unit payoff.
I am more interested on the why behind the question
In reality, I do not think the casino actually places these bets on the layout as shown in my photo.
Never watched this type of action before.
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
March 31st, 2013 at 9:22:57 PM
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I am researching loss rebate advantage play on roulette similar to the analysis I completed for Don Johnson on blackjack.Quote: 7crapsI am more interested on the why behind the question
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March 31st, 2013 at 9:32:16 PM
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Quote: 7crapsYeah that should work.
But with a max bet of 1 unit straight-up one could certainly bet more than 4 units on an outside number to arrive at his 420 unit payoff.
I am more interested on the why behind the question.
It's how a high roller can exceed the house maximum for a given number. There isn't much reason to make a full complete bet if you're not already maxed out on the number you want - the payoff is always better for a straight up bet than anything else.
Edit: never mind, I think I answered a different question than you were asking...
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April 1st, 2013 at 12:35:30 AM
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I believe they place a lammer or a single chip on the number. The full complete action I have heard about is all on tables reserved for a single player.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
April 1st, 2013 at 1:06:07 AM
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Quote: teliotI am researching loss rebate advantage play on roulette similar to the analysis I completed for Don Johnson on blackjack.
Have you related the full story about your experience with Johnson anywhere?
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:32:10 AM
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Quote: teliotFor example, a complete bet on 17, with a $1000 unit, would be equivalent to this set of straight-up bets:
$2000 on 13
$4000 on 14
$2000 on 15
$6000 on 16
$12000 on 17
$6000 on 18
$2000 on 19
$4000 on 20
$2000 on 21
Thank you ... what would a complete bet on 17 be with a $5.00 unit?
That is a little more my style than what you've depicted.
I know that for some reason 17 is a popular number, indeed I believe it is the most popular number to be bet, but is this because it is somewhat visually in the middle of the table or because it is arithmetically in the middle of what is available even though it is physically just one slot of many on the wheel and there is no particular "start", "middle" or "end" to a wheel.
April 1st, 2013 at 4:40:17 AM
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Divide every value above by 200.Quote: FleaStiffThank you ... what would a complete bet on 17 be with a $5.00 unit?
$10 on 13, 15, 19, 21
$20 on 14,20
$30 on 16,18
$60 on 17
$200 total bet.
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