Mikey75
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March 6th, 2013 at 4:30:39 PM permalink
I'm new here on the forum so I'll give a very brief introduction an then go into my question. I'm a average working stiff who has discovered the wonderful game of blackjack as a source of entertainment. I don't have a bankroll and I choke on my poor mans steak when I read about how much money some of you guys put up when you walk into a casino lol.

Now onto my question. My wife told me she would like to go to Tunica for her birthday which is a few months away. I've been thinking about surprising her with a trip to Vegas instead. Here's where I'm at. I'm new so I'm pretty sure where ever I go I'm going to lose whatever I drop on the table. If I could break even I'd be happy. Tickets and a room in Vegas is going to run $1000. I'll have $2000 to put toward this trip. Do I spend a $1000 to get to Vegas and then have $1000 to eat and gamble on while I am there or do I go to Tunica (where I'm certain if I drop 2 grand on the table eats and more than likely rooms will be comped) and have the 2 grand to play on? Tunica is a couple hours drive from me.

Remember this is just about entertainment to me and either way I doubt I come home with any of it lol.

I'd enjoy hearing the opinions of all of you.
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March 6th, 2013 at 4:56:02 PM permalink
I'd argue with a limited budget for staying in Tunica. Why spend half your bankroll on getting to/staying in Vegas. On the other hand Tunica is... well Tunica.
But Vegas is Vegas Baby!!! Woo Hoo.

So are you and the GF more interested in nightclubs and fancy restaurants, bascially the whole Vegas experience? Or is this a more serious gambling trip..if so stick to Tunica.

Either way, welcome to the seductive mistress known as blackjack.
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March 6th, 2013 at 4:57:06 PM permalink
Tunica.

First, she already said Tunica.

Second, Vegas is an "experience" but what will the casino hopping and shopping and spas actually give her if you don't spend the money on a more upscale trip to Vegas? Longer walks in Vegas, more glitter, more glamor, more gawking. Will she enjoy that or would she prefer some of the usual entertainment at Tunica that she is used to and be happier there anyway. Vegas can be fun, but airports and airplanes are not much fun these days!

Third, You will get comped in Tunica at your budget so its good for a birthday celebration, just plan on a little extra spa money or something. At your level of play you should be getting comped for your room and your meals in the buffet and deli areas. You might also get comped at the upscale restaurants too. Ofcourse, it will depend on how squeaky a wheel you are since it is Tunica after all.

Fourth: Learn to play the games better and don't be so accepting of "I know I will lose". Its known that the odds are in the casino's favor but people do indeed win from time to time.
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:02:27 PM permalink
Welcome, hopefully one of our regulars who have been to Tunica can give you a legitimate comparison.

My two cents: There's nothing like Vegas.

But... If you go on the weekend you might be hard pressed to get by on only a grand with those inflated prices.
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:06:27 PM permalink
Are you nuts? Of course, go to LAS VEGAS!!!

Tunica is an awful place. It's almost as bad as Laughlin Nevada! There's NOTHING to do there! It's purgatory! Go to LV, or you will risk ending your marriage!

There's also tons of stuff to do, other than just gambling in LV!

Regarding your expenses, you can get to LV for less money than you think. Get on Priceline.com and set your own price. Regarding the hotels, you can stay some place cheap like the Riviera or Flamingo for between $25 and $60 a night. You can even stay at the Golden Nugget in the Rush Tower for about $65/75 per night.

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March 6th, 2013 at 5:10:07 PM permalink
I would stay in Tunica
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:13:13 PM permalink
Two grand isn't enough for two consenting adults to "do" Las Vegas.

Thus, Tunica, by default.
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:15:05 PM permalink


TUNICA




LAS VEGAS

You've got plenty of money. I've probably been to LV more times than most of the people that actually live in LV. ;)

I've also been to Tunica. Leaving Tunica was like a scene from the movie, "Constantine", where Kenau Reeves, in one scene, is attempting to escape hell.

Get to LV and enjoy your life.
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:30:42 PM permalink
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:33:38 PM permalink
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:42:59 PM permalink
Don't listen to video poker junkies. They are delusional. Go to LV with your wife and have the best sex ever, or go to Tunica and get divorced.

There aren't very many casinos in Tunica, and they're spread out just enough that you'll need a rental car. However, in LV there are more casinos that you would have time to visit. With some hunting, you'll also find better odds and promotions.


In Tunica, you're going to run out of money and run out of things to do in a short period of time.

In LV, you can find limits as low as Tunica, and there's far more to do if the money runs out. The hotels in LV are also just as cheap, maybe even cheaper.

Also, when's the last time, if ever, that you've heard someone brag about going to Tunica?
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:51:13 PM permalink
Ask her. I'd do Vegas though. Gambling/tunica can get boring. Vegas can't.
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:56:21 PM permalink
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:56:58 PM permalink
NOt playing Miss Stud! Lol!
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March 6th, 2013 at 6:19:13 PM permalink
Personally I think the decision weighs more on your wife's tendencies, which you didn't give that great of a description on.

Does she like to gamble a lot? Or is she more touristy, relaxed when on vacation? How many times has she been to Tunica? Also how many days will you have? Anything less than 4, I think I go Tunica here.

If she is more touristy (but isn't big on high end shopping or staying in really nice hotels, or eating classy every night because all of those may bankrupt you), I would consider Vegas. My g/f and I are Vegas cheapos though, since that helps us go there more. :) Our biggest expense is always airfare ($450-$600 for both of us). And the first time going, you'll have so much to explore, so you'll likely not gamble as much as you might think.

If she plans to gamble a LOT (~8 hours a day), then Tunica is probably better because the dollar goes further. We go there quarterly (5 hour drive). If you/the wife get "bored" gambling, you can always checkout Memphis (Beale Street, Graceland, etc.).
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March 6th, 2013 at 6:24:08 PM permalink
Vegas Baby. So much to see and do. Never been to Tunica but I did check out Biloxi. I was disapointed in Biloxi, Other then gambling, not much else to see or do. Vegas is entertaining in so so many differnt ways.
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March 6th, 2013 at 7:16:37 PM permalink
Thanks for all of the comments. I really appreciate it. I think 2 grand is a little light to be hitting Vegas. My wife really doesn't like the night life or clubs to much. I am concerned about running out of things to do. There is NOTHING to do in Tunica besides gamble. I think for this trip I may have to stay conservative and just hit Tunica. Maybe after I save up a bigger bankroll I can hit Vegas better prepared. If anyone has any other comments feel free to share. Thanks!!
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March 6th, 2013 at 7:24:43 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Yeah us professional gamblers have no friggin clue what we're talking about. I musta been a moron cleaning up on the flashing dealer at Mississippi Stud today down south.



If your close to Tunica I'd love to meet you sometime if we could both be there at the same time. Never played Ms Stud before but I'd be willing to give it a try.
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March 6th, 2013 at 7:44:33 PM permalink
Quote: Mikey75

If anyone has any other comments feel free to share. Thanks!!



Not sure if you've been to Vegas yourself, but all new people can sign up for promotions (players cards) at almost every casino and get some free play.

This is neither awful or great. But you could easily burn quite a bit of time traveling around doing it. You need a cheap rental car aside from your hotel room.
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:08:27 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

You've got plenty of money.



His total wad is two grand.

Out of that, at least half goes to fly and house he and the wife, leaving a grand to eat, drink, gamble, sightsee and play with.

Now, I'm not saying it can't be done for that amount of money, but I would never bother going to Las Vegas with just chump change.

Go big, or go to Tunica.
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:19:28 PM permalink
I've been to both locations. Both Tunica and LV have the same limits. In fact, if you're looking for low limits, then LV might offer even better options. The hotels in both locations are essentially the same as well.
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:41:08 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

In fact, if you're looking for low limits, then LV might offer even better options.



Not if you plan to stay on the Strip. And considering it would be his first trip there, I mainly would recommend that for the experience. One day downtown, tops.

He could do Vegas on his budget if he wished, but he and his wife needs to be on the cheaper end of vacationing and be alright with that.
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:56:19 PM permalink
In Tunica, you are only 35 miles from Memphis and Graceland. Plenty to do with 40 minutes travel time.
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March 6th, 2013 at 9:13:47 PM permalink
I have been going on casino trips about 6x a year now for the past 5 years. Vegas, Tunica, and Biloxi as the fly to places, Cherokee and Hollywood, PA for 6 hour drives. And this past weekend at Beau Rivage I booked a couple swedish massage for the first time ever. Best $200+$80 tip I have ever spent. We had a wonderful time. The only negative was we could not enjoy the steam sauna or the dry sauna together as they were only single sex.
I will definitely be adding this to any future trips. Every casino I know of has a spa. Not sure how good they all are.

And, I was able to make myself believe I was saving money by booking the spa. Actually, I probably was saving money! I was running so bad I am sure the $280 spent for that 1.5 hours was well under my loss rate........ plus the casino picked up the $200 anyway, so I just paid the $80 tip.
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March 6th, 2013 at 9:13:49 PM permalink
Managing your money in Vegas can really vary. For instance, you can buy a vendor's coke on the strip for the same price as 2 or 3 2Litre bottles at a grocery store a couple blocks away. Or you could spend a couple hundred bucks gambling and get about 3 "free" drinks for it.
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March 6th, 2013 at 11:13:03 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Go big, or go to Tunica.

Yes. Particularly if the wife is not ultra-thrilled with touristy gawking things in Vegas. I'd say Go Big or Go To Tunica is good advice, but a third option would be to study a bit more, learn the bargains in Vegas and make that lower amount of money stretch a bit more in Vegas by knowing which events you want to attend, which bars have a good band but no cover charge, etc.

Tunica offers gambling or a choice between Cotton and Soybeans. In Vegas, there are a zillion things more but it takes planning and knowing what your choices and energy levels are likely to be. Vegas involves alot of walking and gawking even if you emphasize the gambling. And you always have the Bellagio's Arboretum if miss the Cotton or Soybeans options.
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March 6th, 2013 at 11:21:36 PM permalink
Many Vegas visitors take a tour thru a store enroute to their hotel and stock up on sodas, booze, snacks and coffee. Some people even buy a coffee percolator at wal mart and leave it in Vegas rather than do the lobby coffee at three dollars each or the casino coffee at "free". I think a trip to Vegas should avoid Fast Food places but many people "go cheap" and enjoy it.
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March 7th, 2013 at 3:43:23 AM permalink
Mickey says he plays BJ and has no real bankroll to speak of. With all of the 6-5 low limit BJ on the strip in LV, wouldn't he be better off playing in Tunica?
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March 7th, 2013 at 4:04:59 AM permalink
Good to hear you chose Tunica mainly since you stated your wife already said she wanted to go there for her birthday. The easier and cheaper travel there combined with a bigger BR makes you needing something quite compelling to sway to Vegas. Everyone is saying there is nothing to do there, but there must be something to see or somewhere to go if you look and basically force yourself to like it.
I would try to get a Gulf view room if I was there.

Definitely try Vegas in the future. You can't always do the optimal thing or else you're not really making a choice, but going with the programming. I wouldn't do it this time, but plan it for the next time. Win on this trip and make it easier.
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March 7th, 2013 at 4:22:05 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Not if you plan to stay on the Strip. And considering it would be his first trip there, I mainly would recommend that for the experience. One day downtown, tops.

He could do Vegas on his budget if he wished, but he and his wife needs to be on the cheaper end of vacationing and be alright with that.



Hilton Elara...used to be the PH Westgate....

$115 a night for a fantastic suite with strip views.
Vegas can keep you occupied ALL DAY with stuff to walk around and see...for a birthday trip (with the free sign up play) its a waaaaaay better experience than Tunica.
He's got a couple months...pay for the airfare now and work a little extra to get his BR back to 2000.
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March 7th, 2013 at 4:22:59 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Yes. Particularly if the wife is not ultra-thrilled with touristy gawking things in Vegas. I'd say Go Big or Go To Tunica is good advice, but a third option would be to study a bit more, learn the bargains in Vegas and make that lower amount of money stretch a bit more in Vegas by knowing which events you want to attend, which bars have a good band but no cover charge, etc.

Tunica offers gambling or a choice between Cotton and Soybeans. In Vegas, there are a zillion things more but it takes planning and knowing what your choices and energy levels are likely to be. Vegas involves alot of walking and gawking even if you emphasize the gambling. And you always have the Bellagio's Arboretum if miss the Cotton or Soybeans options.



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March 7th, 2013 at 4:53:58 AM permalink
Thanks again for the added comments. While there is literally nothing to do in Tunica it is a short drive from Memphis as someone pointed out earlier. If we got to bored there is always the option of making a 30 minute or so drive and being there.

Since our last trip my wife has been playing BJ with me and is really picking up on the strategy. I think we will occupy a couple of seats at the $5 BJ table and see what happens. The first time I set down at the BJ table I had no idea what I was doing. I was in third position and watched the people playing before me and played accordingly. I played for three hours on $20 turning into $150 then losing it all. Went back the next morning and laid another $20 down and walked away with $140. That's how new I am lol. But the hook got in me. Now I want to visit again with a little bit of knowledge about the game and see what happens. I think a Vegas trip is in our near future. Something I'm going to start planning. If I could leave Tunica even or just a little up it sure would help.
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March 7th, 2013 at 5:20:56 AM permalink
If you live a couple hours from Tunica, you're as entertainment starved as we were. She needs to see Celine, Rod Stewart, Blue Man Group and/or Jersey Boys. It's her birthday, crap another grand!
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March 7th, 2013 at 6:21:43 AM permalink
If you're happy playing $5 BJ, you should really just go to Vegas. $2000 will be plenty for that.
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March 7th, 2013 at 7:36:57 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

If you're happy playing $5 BJ, you should really just go to Vegas. $2000 will be plenty for that.



Think again.

As he posted, his TOTAL budget is two grand.

Off the top, half that goes for air fare and un-comped hotel rooms.

That leaves a grand for he and the wife to split to gamble, sight see, eat and see shows, which really is not enough for a typical 4 or 5 day stay in Las Vegas.
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March 7th, 2013 at 8:05:11 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Think again.

As he posted, his TOTAL budget is two grand.

Off the top, half that goes for air fare and un-comped hotel rooms.

That leaves a grand for he and the wife to split to gamble, sight see, eat and see shows, which really is not enough for a typical 4 or 5 day stay in Las Vegas.



I was under the impression it wouldn't be a 4-5 day stay. More like 2-3. And I think he could probably get hotel / airfare for $800. So $1200 is plenty.
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March 7th, 2013 at 8:20:30 AM permalink
Airlines have really priced Vegas out of many folks hands. If Tunica is a few hours away by car, then Vegas is $400@. Add Hotel. Add transportation. Add food. Penny slots anyone?
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March 7th, 2013 at 8:29:11 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Airlines have really priced Vegas out of many folks hands. If Tunica is a few hours away by car, then Vegas is $400@. Add Hotel. Add transportation. Add food. Penny slots anyone?



The cost of the flight and hotel is the last thing I worry about for a Vegas trip as flights are relatively cheap and hotels are dirt cheap in Vegas. Yes, it will cost you like $200-$250 to stay at the Wynn, but you put that hotel in downtown Chicago or Mid-town Manhattan and that place will run you $750 a night. Many 3.5 to 4 star resorts in Vegas you get get a 4 night stay with flight for roughly $1,000.
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March 7th, 2013 at 8:33:49 AM permalink
It would be a four day stay if we went to Vegas. Cheapest flight room combo I can locate is right at a grand. Funny thing is I could go and stay a full seven days for almost the same amount. The hotel stay doesn't seem to make a big difference. This is a room on the strip btw. I think I'm going to save a little more and wait till I can make a full week out of it. I'm fine playing the $5 BJ table at tunica. My bankroll really isn't big enough to even support that lol. I'm just looking to have some fun and have the possibility of winning a buck or two along the way. I've breifly mention Vegas to my wife and she doesn't seem to be real fond of the idea right now. I may have to break it in slow for her lol. Got a couple of months to see how things go and I may get the chance to slip in a run to Tunica before then to check out a couple of the other casino's there. I've only played in GoldStrike and only been in Horseshoe and Roadhouse which is right beside GoldStrike. If I had to fly to get to Tunica Vegas would be a no brainer. But being so close to Tunica I think it will win out this trip.

Actually reading on here that AC is smoke free makes me wonder if we would enjoy a AC trip better than Vegas. I don't really care for the smoke filled air that was at GoldStrike and my wife didn't either.
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March 7th, 2013 at 8:42:51 AM permalink
I do like Tunica. I've been there once when it was a 4-5 hour drive. Now that I live in Chicago, it's too far to drive, so I wouldn't go back. You'll have fun there, it's just not the same.
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March 7th, 2013 at 9:13:52 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Airlines have really priced Vegas out of many folks hands. If Tunica is a few hours away by car, then Vegas is $400@. Add Hotel. Add transportation. Add food. Penny slots anyone?



I second this. Other than Spirit, weekend Vegas is $400 unless you want to go from DC to Boston to Vegas. Yes, that was the cheapest flight at one point. It's really depressing.
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March 7th, 2013 at 9:16:35 AM permalink
If you're trying to do the trip on the cheap, then you can stay downtown at the Plaza Hotel in a newly renovated room starting at $29 at night.

You're not going to find hotels that cheap in Tunica without bed bugs.

I'm not sure from which state you're flying, but usually can fly to LV from most places in the US for about $250 to $300 using Orbitz or Priceline.
You can get a rental car at Fox Rental Car for another $126 for a week and avoid the rental car facility tax.

By the way, don't check fares during the next two weeks because of Spring break.
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March 7th, 2013 at 11:16:17 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle


I would try to get a Gulf view room if I was there.



I think Mikey would need to drive a few extra hours for that option...lol Tunica = Memphis, not Gulf.

Generally speaking, $1000 between the two of them would probably be tight to play the disaster that is 6:5 BJ in Vegas. And if I was him, I would try to go to at least one show while they are there, and the good ones are going to cost $100+ for a pair of tickets, even with places like Tix4Tonight. My first trip with my g/f, she went to "O" on her birthday. Even with a cost-cutting move, it was about ~$180 for a pair.

And $1000 is his flight/hotel costs only? That really means his BR is screwed if food in Vegas isn't accounted for yet unless they want to eat fast food for most meals.
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March 7th, 2013 at 12:16:47 PM permalink
Is this a joke?
I go to vegas frequently...however I drive (So deduct the airfare costs)
But I can usually get the room free or CHEAP.
I never take more than $100 a day per person.
We don't gamble ALL that much in Vegas...just because there's SOOO much other stuff to do/see.
If it's your first time in Vegas, I recommend not wasting time gambling AT ALL.
I would say for you and your wife, $100 a day would be an adequate amount (Although if you DO want to gamble, I'd set aside another $100 per day)
There's LOTS of deals you can find for dining coupons/discounts (Buffets 2:1, 10% off restaraunts, etc)
Unless you want to dine/shop at EXTRAVAGANT places...but shit, you can eat/shop at home! Vegas is for sightseeing and taking it all in!
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March 8th, 2013 at 10:38:24 AM permalink
Thanks again for all the input. We are definatly not extravagant people and have no interest in the high end places. Most everything we do is on the cheap side lol. If I went to Vegas I would definatly want to go to a couple of shows and eat at least once at a decent place. I'm sure it could be done on the cheap side but I think I'm going to stick with tunica for this trip and try to hit Vegas the next one.
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March 8th, 2013 at 10:53:41 AM permalink
Have a great time in Tunica! I think you made the right choice for your bankroll. But I firmly believe that whether you enjoy gambling or not, that Vegas is a place everyone should do at least once in their lives. For when you do go to Vegas, here are some tips from my personal experience.
- On the weekends Vegas is much busier than during the week as there is a large amount of people who make the 4 hour drive from Los Angeles on Frday night. If you take a M-F trip you can use the normal weekend dates to decompress from your trip and you will save money on the hotel room.
-Cheaper rooms are downtown, but there are some very nice strip properties where you can get rates under $100/night during the week. Treasure Island, Monte Carlo, Paris and Luxor are a few off the top of my head. I would recommend staying on the strip if either you or your wife have never been to Vegas before.
-I would not pre-buy tickets to a show. There are Tix4Tonight (or something like that) booths all over the strip and you can buy tickets the day of the show often times for 50% or more of the face value of the tickets.
-If interested in renting a car, there are many excursions one can take from the Vegas strip and you can be back in 4-6 hours. Places like Hoover Dam, Red Rock Canyon, Mt. Charleston and Valley of Fire State Park.
-Depending on the time of year you go be wary of the weather. I personally think April and October are the nicest times weather wise to visit Las Vegas. In the winter, it can get below freezing overnight and you almost certainly will see highs well into the 100s if not 110s in the summer. If you do go during summer though, bring a light jacket for when you are inside. They crank the ever-loving hell out of the AC during the summer months
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
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