Election Night Drinking Games
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sobs, for whatever reason.
If watching CNN: Take a drink every time Wolf Blitz says the
word 'serious' or 'devastating' when referring to a Romney win.
If watching FOX: Take a drink whenever you hear the names
Karl Rove, Rasmussen, or Sean Hannity.
When watching any of them, take a drink whenever somenody
says 'We just might be here all night'.
Quote: EvenBob
When watching any of them, take a drink whenever somenody
says 'We just might be here all night'.
I've heard 'its going to be a long night'
half a dozen times today.
No its not...
Quote: EvenBobI've heard 'its going to be a long night'
half a dozen times today.
No its not...
No, if you play the drinking game, you'll be out cold by 10.30pm from drinking too much.
Quote: EvenBobIf watching MSNBC: Take a drink every time Chris Matthews
sobs, for whatever reason.
I get that you're not a fan of MSNBC or Chris Matthews, but he doesn't sob. If Romney loses he's more likely to bust a vein in his forehead than sob. I get you're trying to be funny, but you can do better.
Quote: thecesspitNo, if you play the drinking game, you'll be out cold by 10.30pm from drinking too much.
Considering his purported stockpile, I'm taking the UNDER. I'm figuring he'll get a head start before the results start coming in.
If Romney wins, it will be fun to watch the mainstream media's progression from anger to acceptance. I like denial a lot. They can come up with incredible scenarios to undo a done election.
Speaking of which, if Obama loses he could run again in 2016 (I think). That woudl really eb fun. I don't think anyone ever ran for lame duck.
Hillary in 2016!
Quote: Nareed
If Romney wins, it will be fun to watch the mainstream media's progression from anger to acceptance.
CNN seems to have an almost fatalistic attitude the
last few days, they won't be surprised when Romney
wins. MSNBC will be suicidal.
Quote: EvenBobI've heard 'its going to be a long night'
half a dozen times today.
No its not...
Are you talking about the presidential election? You're right, it won't be. As soon as VA is called, we'll know who won. Should be about 9:30 PM EST.
But since the cable news channels cover other elections as well, including several in PST or in Hawaii, yeah, it'll be a long night.
Quote: NareedSpeaking of which, if Obama loses he could run again in 2016 (I think). That woudl really eb fun. I don't think anyone ever ran for lame duck.
Grover Cleveland won in 1884, lost in 1888, and ran again - and won - in 1892.
Quote: ThatDonGuyGrover Cleveland won in 1884, lost in 1888, and ran again - and won - in 1892.
"Grover Cleveland spanked me on two non-consecutive occasions!" -Grandpa Simspon
Quote: ThatDonGuyGrover Cleveland won in 1884, lost in 1888, and ran again - and won - in 1892.
Yes, but at the time he could have run again in 1896 if he'd wanted to. If Obama loses this year and wins in 2016, he can't run again. He'd be elected lame duck.
I know, also, that few men have run for a third term of any kind. I've had this explained as tradition, following Washington's example when he retired after serving two terms.
already sold millions in commercial time till 5 in
the morning. The last thing they want is CBS
calling the race at 11pm when the polls close in
Calif.
Quote: NareedI know, also, that few men have run for a third term of any kind. I've had this explained as tradition, following Washington's example when he retired after serving two terms.
About 6 months before the 1908 election, when Teddy Roosevelt was just age 49, he was considering breaking tradition and running for a third term. Creelman did his famous interview with President Porfirio Diaz that would have such a profound effect on Mexican History.
Teddy Roosevelt had been elected as Vice President in 1900, but McKinley served only 6 months and 10 days of his term before he died from an assassin's bullet. TR won in 1904, and was seriously considering running in 1908, but he bowed to public pressure that no one should serve as the POTUS indefinitely. He did change his mind in 1912 and ran as a 3rd party spoiler candidate, and gave the presidency to Wilson.
Porfirio Diaz's shockingly candid comments made to the American reporter eventually were a big part of his undoing.
Quote: James Creelman, "President Díaz: Hero of the Americas," Pearson's Magazine, March 1908"You know that in the United States we are troubled about the question of electing a President for three terms?"
He smiled and then looked grave, nodding his head gently and pursing his lips. It is hard to describe the look of concentrated interest that suddenly came into his strong, intelligent countenance.
"Yes, yes, I know," he replied. "It is a natural sentiment of democratic peoples that their officials should be often changed. I agree with that sentiment. It is quite true that when a man has occupied a powerful office for a very long time he is likely to begin to look upon it as his personal property, and it is well that a free people should guard themselves against the tendencies of individual ambition. Yet the abstract theories of democracy and the practical, effective application of them are often necessarily different--that is when you are seeking for the substance rather than the mere form...I can see no good reason why President Roosevelt should not be elected again if a majority of the American people desire to have him continue in office. I believe that he has thought more of his country than of himself. He has done and is doing a great work for the United States, a work that will cause him, whether he serves again or not, to be remembered in history as one of the great Presidents. I look upon the trusts as a great and real power in the United States, and President Roosevelt has had the patriotism and courage to defy them. Mankind understands the meaning of his attitude and its bearing upon the future. He stands before the world as a statesman whose victories have been moral victories. ...
"Here in Mexico we have had different conditions. I received this Government from the hands of a victorious army at a time when the people were divided and unprepared for the exercise of the extreme principles of democratic government. To have thrown upon the masses the whole responsibility of government at once would have produced conditions that might have discredited the cause of free government. Yet, although I got power at first from the army, an election was held as soon as possible and then my authority came from the people. I have tried to leave the Presidency several times, but it has been pressed upon me and I remained in office for the sake of the nation which trusted me. The fact that the price of Mexican securities dropped eleven points when I was ill at Cuernavaca indicates the kind of evidence that persuaded me to overcome my personal inclination to retire to private life.
"I have waited patiently for the day when the people of the Mexican Republic would be prepared to choose and change their government at every election without danger of armed revolutions and without injury to the national credit or interference with national progress.
I believe that day has come. ...
"No matter what my friends and supporters say, I retire when my present term of office ends, and I shall not serve again. I shall be eighty years old then. My country has relied on me and it has been kind to me. My friends have praised my merits and overlooked my faults. But they
may not be willing to deal so generously with my successor and he may need my advice and support; therefore I desire to be alive when he assumes office so that I may help him."
Díaz's regime grew unpopular due to repression and political stagnation, and he fell from power during the Mexican Revolution, after he had imprisoned his electoral rival and declared himself the winner of an eighth term in office. The 35 years in which Díaz ruled Mexico are referred to as the Porfiriato.
Antonio Moreno.
In 1964 or thereabouts i saw a dead ringer for him. Standing on a street corner in Nuevo Laredo. About 60 years old but same classic
looks. I was a drunken American, carrying a stuffed coyote under one arm. I wished I had talked to him. Standing there, covered in dust, yet with an air of dignity about him. A man who had not let the world rob him of his pride. Despite the fact he was reduced to selling bob-a-loops. SIGH
Quote: NareedIronically Díaz came to power by opposing the many years Juarez had been in power. I don't recall whether or not it invovled civil war, but Díaz's slogan was "Sufragio efectivo, no reelección" (loosely "Effective suffrage, no to reelection") His opponents then used that slogan themselves in the 1910-21 "revolution" (really an extended civil war).
In one of the most effective spin doctor moves of all time , Diaz used as his campaign slogan when he was age 46 Sufragio Efectivo, No Reelección and when he ran at age 54 he moved the comma so that the new slogan was Sufragio Efectivo No, Reelección.
The hero worshiping tone of the Creelman Interview in 1908 always fascinated me. I realize that style which sounds almost ridiculous today was more popular a century ago. But I've always felt that James Creelman was no dummy, and he knew that style would allow Presidente Diaz to feel comfortable, and let his guard down so that he would say revealing statements.
The contrast with American politics was very strong. Teddy Roosevelt was better suited than any president in history to set up a kind of benign "president king" who could have been elected for multiple terms.
Quote: EvenBobI've heard 'its going to be a long night'
half a dozen times today.
No its not...
I've got NBC on (I don't seem to get FOX on the TV, else I would be watching FOX), and my tick chart for "long night" is around 20 so far...
