vpking
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March 9th, 2010 at 5:25:23 PM permalink
I just recieved an offer from the Mirage hotel.

750 in free play, suite for 3 nights, 300 in food and beverage, 2 tickets to LOVE and transportation to and from the airport. A very nice offer.

I have never stayed at the Mirage before, but I have played there a few times (obviously). I am going to take the offer, my concern is I like to move around and go downtown and north las vegas to visit and play at some of the local casinos.

My quetion is, has anyone ever gotten such an offer and felt pressure to stay on property and gamble more, or are they hoping you'll play there full time and if you don't, you just never get another offer from them again.

There isn't any formal agreement that you'll play a fixed amount each day. Could you in fact stretch the 750 free play over 3 days spend 500 of your own and check out without any negative vibes coming my way.

Thanks in advance for any insight.
scottndindy
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March 9th, 2010 at 5:50:02 PM permalink
I receive similar offers from the mirage and take advantage of them 2-3 times per year. The main thing I have learned is that any comps you usually receive you will not get them until you fulfill the full value of your offer. I stayed in December the week after the Rodeo which is historically one of the slowest weeks in Vegas. My offer provided a suite, free play, show tickets, and transportation. When I went to speak with my host about taking care of meals he let me know what type of play was expected to receive this. The suite I was in was valued at 500 per night. The week I was there you could reserve the room for under 200 because it was so slow but their computer has set values. Long story short is that you need to take the value of your offer: Suite times 3 nights, limo cost, show tickets, and free play and understand until your play takes care of it you will not receive anything else. I have used these types of offers and gambled very little at the Mirage as I was having more fun elsewhere and I still continue to receive offers. This type of offer is automated and guaranteed. It has nothing to do with your present situation but is generated based on your past play. You can take the offer and not gamble at all without feeling like they will take it back from you. While your host won't be happy about it they will not take it away. (At least that has been my experience)

On the question about the chips. I have always gotten them all at once. You have to go to your host's office or the players club area and they will print out a form from their computer. You take this to the cage and you will be issued chips. One tip is that if you are getting a large amount ask for smaller chip amounts. I have gotten them as low as 25. The reason is that they can't be split if you are playing a game such as craps. If you have a 500 dollar chip you have to do one bet valued at 500. You can't toss it out and split it between numbers.

As a side note I generally book several rooms on any given trip because of these types of offers. To do this you have to go through different companies. Harrahs, Mgm Mirage, Wynn, Venetian, etc. You can't take an offer for the mirage and one at MGM Grand at the same time because their computers are linked. I have taken offers and gotten a room and never even walked into it.
nyuhoosier
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March 9th, 2010 at 6:04:54 PM permalink
Quote: scottndindy

I have taken offers and gotten a room and never even walked into it.



If you do this again, I would be happy to keep the unused room warm for you! Heck, I'd even buy you some drinks or drive you to the airport ;-)
ahiromu
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March 9th, 2010 at 6:08:27 PM permalink
As someone who isn't quite there yet, but I might be there eventually, can someone please explain in detail what they do in order to get these kinds of offers?
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vpking
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March 9th, 2010 at 6:16:20 PM permalink
Scott, Thanks for your input, I thought that was probably the deal. I don't have a host as yet, I made the reservation by calling there VP line. I may have a host and just not know it yet. I just didn't want to feel that I had to keep playing if I was losing. Thanks again.
scottndindy
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March 9th, 2010 at 6:25:35 PM permalink
These types of offers are automated based on your play while using a rewards card from where you are playing. You generally can see them on your online account and receive mail with the details also. The casino looks at a number of factors including average bet, amount of time played, and daily projected loss. I know for sure that Total Rewards from Harrahs looks at your daily projected loss as a big factor in offers. By this it means on average when you visit the casino how much you are going to drop or risk.
vpking
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March 9th, 2010 at 6:26:14 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

As someone who isn't quite there yet, but I might be there eventually, can someone please explain in detail what they do in order to get these kinds of offers?



Ahir, I can only tell you that my last trip I stayed at the Riviera, they always comp my FRB (food, room, beverage). The Riv is an older hotel and they don't reguire the same level of play as the Mirage, Wynn, or any of the newer hotels. I budget $600 a day for gambling and that seems to satisfy the Riviera. If I stayed at the Wynn on that budget, I would guess that maybe I would get some meals taken care of but not the room.

Back to the Mirage, my last trip was awesome. I had some great wins at the Riv and other hotels, so the night I went to the Mirage to see LOVE, I went 4 hrs early. I couldn't hit a thing VP and video Keno, and I probably lost $1200. I assume thats why I have gotten this nice offer. Its very tough to figure out what any one casino is looking for in play. Good luck
Mosca
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March 9th, 2010 at 6:32:01 PM permalink
Holy heck, that is one good offer.
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March 9th, 2010 at 7:00:58 PM permalink
Unless there is fine print to the contrary, no offer requires you to gamble at all.

But there are two 'rules' of common sense:

1 - They are expecting you to play, at levels that are about what you did on your last visit.

2 - If you don't play, don't expect a repeat offer.
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ahiromu
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March 9th, 2010 at 8:00:21 PM permalink
Sorry I miss-communicated my question, but vpking basically answered it. So you budget 600 for stuff like VP/Keno, but you lost quite a bit last time so you're thinking that that's the reason for this level of an offer?
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