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I had a 2004 Sebring Convertible.Quote: AZDuffmanRemember full-size convertibles?
It and the Toyota Solara (and maybe the SAAB -- it was out of my price range, so I didn't check it out) were as full-size as you could get at the time (and possible since). I loved riding with the top down, which was possible just about year-round in FL. The back seat could comfortably seat 2 adults.
A few years later, I think it was the 06's or 07's, they shortened the Sebring's passenger cabin. They still had back seats, but the only way you could sit in them comfortably is if you had no legs!
Unfortunately, Chrysler was, and may still be, unable build a durable transmission (just my opinion, and those of a couple of mechanics I talked to), and this one conked out just past 100,000 miles.
My guess is fuel economy requirements.Quote:Why have we lost a comfortable car that you can just enjoy the road and ride?
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This stuff was all over the place. Do they even make anything physical anymore?
Quote: AZDuffmanRemember when IBM made all kinds of things and you saw their initials on them?
This stuff was all over the place. Do they even make anything physical anymore?
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I think IBM is mainly a software and services company now.
Quote: JoemanI had a 2004 Sebring Convertible.Quote: AZDuffmanRemember full-size convertibles?
It and the Toyota Solara (and maybe the SAAB -- it was out of my price range, so I didn't check it out) were as full-size as you could get at the time (and possible since). I loved riding with the top down, which was possible just about year-round in FL. The back seat could comfortably seat 2 adults.
A few years later, I think it was the 06's or 07's, they shortened the Sebring's passenger cabin. They still had back seats, but the only way you could sit in them comfortably is if you had no legs!
Unfortunately, Chrysler was, and may still be, unable build a durable transmission (just my opinion, and those of a couple of mechanics I talked to), and this one conked out just past 100,000 miles.My guess is fuel economy requirements.Quote:Why have we lost a comfortable car that you can just enjoy the road and ride?
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Ex-Mrs. camapl and I bought a 1999 Sebring convertible new and traded off driving it every week until I totaled it about 6 months later. (Perhaps that’s why she is an ex!) I think I know what Joeman means about the tranny… When I wanted to pass someone, I would punch it, count to 2, and then make my move. That’s how bad the delay was in downshifting!
As for the size of convertibles, I think Joeman has a point about fuel economy. Also, it could be about safety… Convertibles are considerably heavier than sedans due to a bulkier framework in the undercarriage. You don’t want the car to settle; you want the doors to close after you open them, right? With a sedan the auto makers were able to move away from body-on-frame construction by integrating the two and adding crumple zones and other safety features. Integrating is much harder to do without a connected roof. Think whole eggshell vs. half… Also, the posts between the front and rear doors adds considerably to the structure. In the late 50’s and the 60’s, most Lincolns (suicide doors, no post) were heavier than Caddy’s. My father hauled quite a few vehicles of the 30’s-70’s vintages, including some pickups and panel trucks, and he always found the Continental ragtops to be the heaviest.
Quote: DieterI remember "ten codes", which allowed you to select your long distance carrier on a per call basis.
I think 10-10-321 was the most widely advertised, but all the carriers had the option.
The "game the system" aspect came to play when you selected a regular long distance carrier with no monthly base charge (and a higher per minute rate), then used the 10 code to place calls through a carrier with a low per-minute rate.
A modestly complicated long distance dialing scheme (which could be programmed into speed dial on the slightly upscale telephones) meant an appreciable savings.
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I remember 10-10-288 for AT&T (288 being the numbers for A-T-T), and I think 10-10-222 and 10-10-333 were MCI and Sprint.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredrooster.
the tv show "Saturday Night Live" is not in its 50th season and there is a new film about the show
I haven't watched it in a long time
but I did enjoy it when it first came out -
although there were usually only a couple of skits per show that I really liked
it was different than most comedy shows up until then
rougher - more sarcastic
The original cast was the "Not Ready for Primetime Players" and it produced lots of stars. I started watching the second cast, widely considered the worst of the show's history. Oh, well. It had some good humor over the years. Dana Carvey got called in by Bush41 as the later enjoyed his parody. I mostly stopped watching after college except around 2000 election. Gore was forced to watch his parody by his staff. Back then they balanced it out. In 2016 I tuned in to see what the cold open would be the weekend after the election. Total nothing. I doubt I will ever tune in again, just catch anything that makes my YT feed if that.
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It was also called NBC's Saturday Night (which is why the opening doesn't say "Saturday Night Live"). The reason for this, as well as the name for the Not Ready For Prime Time Players, is a short-lived ABC show from the same period called Saturday Night Live with Howard Cosell, whose cast was the "Prime Time Players." I think they stopped using the term Not Ready For Prime Time Players right after Aykroyd and Belushi left the show.
Quote: camaplQuote: JoemanI had a 2004 Sebring Convertible.Quote: AZDuffmanRemember full-size convertibles?
It and the Toyota Solara (and maybe the SAAB -- it was out of my price range, so I didn't check it out) were as full-size as you could get at the time (and possible since). I loved riding with the top down, which was possible just about year-round in FL. The back seat could comfortably seat 2 adults.
A few years later, I think it was the 06's or 07's, they shortened the Sebring's passenger cabin. They still had back seats, but the only way you could sit in them comfortably is if you had no legs!
Unfortunately, Chrysler was, and may still be, unable build a durable transmission (just my opinion, and those of a couple of mechanics I talked to), and this one conked out just past 100,000 miles.My guess is fuel economy requirements.Quote:Why have we lost a comfortable car that you can just enjoy the road and ride?
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Ex-Mrs. camapl and I bought a 1999 Sebring convertible new and traded off driving it every week until I totaled it about 6 months later. (Perhaps that’s why she is an ex!) I think I know what Joeman means about the tranny… When I wanted to pass someone, I would punch it, count to 2, and then make my move. That’s how bad the delay was in downshifting!
As for the size of convertibles, I think Joeman has a point about fuel economy. Also, it could be about safety… Convertibles are considerably heavier than sedans due to a bulkier framework in the undercarriage. You don’t want the car to settle; you want the doors to close after you open them, right? With a sedan the auto makers were able to move away from body-on-frame construction by integrating the two and adding crumple zones and other safety features. Integrating is much harder to do without a connected roof. Think whole eggshell vs. half… Also, the posts between the front and rear doors adds considerably to the structure. In the late 50’s and the 60’s, most Lincolns (suicide doors, no post) were heavier than Caddy’s. My father hauled quite a few vehicles of the 30’s-70’s vintages, including some pickups and panel trucks, and he always found the Continental ragtops to be the heaviest.
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The safety thing kind of drives me crazy. I've had people say, "what if you roll it?" I just reply, "I guess I will be dead." I know I am making that compromise and do not care. I want to enjoy myself.
As to structure, you should have seen the 1947 Caddy my dad had. It had a X member tying the frame together. I have seen HOUSES with less heavy beams. Talk about a tank.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: camaplQuote: JoemanI had a 2004 Sebring Convertible.Quote: AZDuffmanRemember full-size convertibles?
It and the Toyota Solara (and maybe the SAAB -- it was out of my price range, so I didn't check it out) were as full-size as you could get at the time (and possible since). I loved riding with the top down, which was possible just about year-round in FL. The back seat could comfortably seat 2 adults.
A few years later, I think it was the 06's or 07's, they shortened the Sebring's passenger cabin. They still had back seats, but the only way you could sit in them comfortably is if you had no legs!
Unfortunately, Chrysler was, and may still be, unable build a durable transmission (just my opinion, and those of a couple of mechanics I talked to), and this one conked out just past 100,000 miles.My guess is fuel economy requirements.Quote:Why have we lost a comfortable car that you can just enjoy the road and ride?
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Ex-Mrs. camapl and I bought a 1999 Sebring convertible new and traded off driving it every week until I totaled it about 6 months later. (Perhaps that’s why she is an ex!) I think I know what Joeman means about the tranny… When I wanted to pass someone, I would punch it, count to 2, and then make my move. That’s how bad the delay was in downshifting!
As for the size of convertibles, I think Joeman has a point about fuel economy. Also, it could be about safety… Convertibles are considerably heavier than sedans due to a bulkier framework in the undercarriage. You don’t want the car to settle; you want the doors to close after you open them, right? With a sedan the auto makers were able to move away from body-on-frame construction by integrating the two and adding crumple zones and other safety features. Integrating is much harder to do without a connected roof. Think whole eggshell vs. half… Also, the posts between the front and rear doors adds considerably to the structure. In the late 50’s and the 60’s, most Lincolns (suicide doors, no post) were heavier than Caddy’s. My father hauled quite a few vehicles of the 30’s-70’s vintages, including some pickups and panel trucks, and he always found the Continental ragtops to be the heaviest.
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The safety thing kind of drives me crazy. I've had people say, "what if you roll it?" I just reply, "I guess I will be dead." I know I am making that compromise and do not care. I want to enjoy myself.
As to structure, you should have seen the 1947 Caddy my dad had. It had a X member tying the frame together. I have seen HOUSES with less heavy beams. Talk about a tank.
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My dad had a 49 Cadillac Coupe DeVille with a gigantic backseat. He always had a used Cadillac in the 1950s because they were easy to work on and they lasted a little longer. I think the last one he had was a 54 Cadillac that he sold in 1962. Crazy huge.
Quote: DRichI think the BMW 8 series may be the biggest new convertible available today.
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When I was a kid you saw ragtops everywhere. Then they just kind of went away and nobody wanted them anymore. My daughter has a Mercedes convertible that's 20 years old in the garage most of the time and they only drive it maybe 2,000 miles a year. That way it always remains fun.. It has under 50,000 original miles on it
Quote: EvenBobQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: camaplQuote: JoemanI had a 2004 Sebring Convertible.Quote: AZDuffmanRemember full-size convertibles?
It and the Toyota Solara (and maybe the SAAB -- it was out of my price range, so I didn't check it out) were as full-size as you could get at the time (and possible since). I loved riding with the top down, which was possible just about year-round in FL. The back seat could comfortably seat 2 adults.
A few years later, I think it was the 06's or 07's, they shortened the Sebring's passenger cabin. They still had back seats, but the only way you could sit in them comfortably is if you had no legs!
Unfortunately, Chrysler was, and may still be, unable build a durable transmission (just my opinion, and those of a couple of mechanics I talked to), and this one conked out just past 100,000 miles.My guess is fuel economy requirements.Quote:Why have we lost a comfortable car that you can just enjoy the road and ride?
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Ex-Mrs. camapl and I bought a 1999 Sebring convertible new and traded off driving it every week until I totaled it about 6 months later. (Perhaps that’s why she is an ex!) I think I know what Joeman means about the tranny… When I wanted to pass someone, I would punch it, count to 2, and then make my move. That’s how bad the delay was in downshifting!
As for the size of convertibles, I think Joeman has a point about fuel economy. Also, it could be about safety… Convertibles are considerably heavier than sedans due to a bulkier framework in the undercarriage. You don’t want the car to settle; you want the doors to close after you open them, right? With a sedan the auto makers were able to move away from body-on-frame construction by integrating the two and adding crumple zones and other safety features. Integrating is much harder to do without a connected roof. Think whole eggshell vs. half… Also, the posts between the front and rear doors adds considerably to the structure. In the late 50’s and the 60’s, most Lincolns (suicide doors, no post) were heavier than Caddy’s. My father hauled quite a few vehicles of the 30’s-70’s vintages, including some pickups and panel trucks, and he always found the Continental ragtops to be the heaviest.
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The safety thing kind of drives me crazy. I've had people say, "what if you roll it?" I just reply, "I guess I will be dead." I know I am making that compromise and do not care. I want to enjoy myself.
As to structure, you should have seen the 1947 Caddy my dad had. It had a X member tying the frame together. I have seen HOUSES with less heavy beams. Talk about a tank.
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My dad had a 49 Cadillac Coupe DeVille with a gigantic backseat. He always had a used Cadillac in the 1950s because they were easy to work on and they lasted a little longer. I think the last one he had was a 54 Cadillac that he sold in 1962. Crazy huge.
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That 47 was not huge as in long, no bigger than the last Town Car. But everything on it was heavy heavy heavy. The trunk had 2 latches to hold it down! Everything was made of steel.
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When I was a kid you saw ragtops everywhere. Then they just kind of went away and nobody wanted them anymore. My daughter has a Mercedes convertible that's 20 years old in the garage most of the time and they only drive it maybe 2,000 miles a year. That way it always remains fun.. It has under 50,000 original miles on it
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They were in decline in the early 60s then the Mustang revived interest for a few years. Many things happened. Crime of the late-60s and early 70s. Fewer models offered. People just did not like the compromises you have to live with. And the beginning of the "I want to feel safe" culture.
Today people who want them are people like me who remember them as a kid. But the problem is they are harder to live with. Go look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract. I get to drive my dad's Solara and will end up with it one day, probably keep it for life. It has most of the comfort of the old domestics. But it gets rated as "boring" because it is not a sports car. GOOD! I want a crusier, not a burner.
Quote: AZDuffmanGo look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract
I had a bunch of BMW convertibles with the retractable hard top. I thought it was great and can't imaging ever owning another soft top convertible.
My personal experience with convertibles was renting a Sebring for a week in November, so I got more use out of it. I enjoy my AC too much to get one.
Quote: billryanAround 1980, a friend bought a broken-down VW Thing and replaced the engine with one more powerful. These cars had a windshield you could fold flat, but it wasn't recommended to do so while driving. I was in the passenger seat as we hit 110MPH with no roof, windshield, or seatbelts. It was an incredible feeling, though I've no desire to duplicate it. I used my sunroof for the first time since the Spring yesterday. I can't imagine driving in a convertible here in the summer.
My personal experience with convertibles was renting a Sebring for a week in November, so I got more use out of it. I enjoy my AC too much to get one.
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I rode around with my convertible top down in Vegas in the summer after the sun went down. With the AC on it was usually pleasant.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanGo look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract
I had a bunch of BMW convertibles with the retractable hard top. I thought it was great and can't imaging ever owning another soft top convertible.
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I would never want one of those or the removable hardtop. Seems too much to break and well I am just used to soft tops. I like having a reasonable Thanksgiving/Christmas/NYD to put the top down even if for just a little bit. That is what separates real convertible men from the ones who drive with the windows up and A/C on.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanGo look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract
I had a bunch of BMW convertibles with the retractable hard top. I thought it was great and can't imaging ever owning another soft top convertible.
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I would never want one of those or the removable hardtop. Seems too much to break and well I am just used to soft tops. I like having a reasonable Thanksgiving/Christmas/NYD to put the top down even if for just a little bit. That is what separates real convertible men from the ones who drive with the windows up and A/C on.
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My Cadillac had the removeable hard top and it was a pain in the butt. It just sat in the garage and collected dust.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanGo look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract
I had a bunch of BMW convertibles with the retractable hard top. I thought it was great and can't imaging ever owning another soft top convertible.
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I would never want one of those or the removable hardtop. Seems too much to break and well I am just used to soft tops. I like having a reasonable Thanksgiving/Christmas/NYD to put the top down even if for just a little bit. That is what separates real convertible men from the ones who drive with the windows up and A/C on.
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My Cadillac had the removeable hard top and it was a pain in the butt. It just sat in the garage and collected dust.
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The only people that those seem to work for have huge garages and rig a lift to just let them hang. Always a better sounding idea when being designed vs IRL.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanGo look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract
I had a bunch of BMW convertibles with the retractable hard top. I thought it was great and can't imaging ever owning another soft top convertible.
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I would never want one of those or the removable hardtop. Seems too much to break and well I am just used to soft tops. I like having a reasonable Thanksgiving/Christmas/NYD to put the top down even if for just a little bit. That is what separates real convertible men from the ones who drive with the windows up and A/C on.
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My Cadillac had the removeable hard top and it was a pain in the butt. It just sat in the garage and collected dust.
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The only people that those seem to work for have huge garages and rig a lift to just let them hang. Always a better sounding idea when being designed vs IRL.
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I actually looked into getting one of those rigs that hangs from the garage ceiling. The truth is in Las Vegas the hard top was never really required (or useful)
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanGo look at a 1960s domestic convertible. You lost little trunk room and the top was snap-snap-hit the button and it went down. Today you lose most of your trunk and the tops are harder to retract
I had a bunch of BMW convertibles with the retractable hard top. I thought it was great and can't imaging ever owning another soft top convertible.
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I would never want one of those or the removable hardtop. Seems too much to break and well I am just used to soft tops. I like having a reasonable Thanksgiving/Christmas/NYD to put the top down even if for just a little bit. That is what separates real convertible men from the ones who drive with the windows up and A/C on.
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My Cadillac had the removeable hard top and it was a pain in the butt. It just sat in the garage and collected dust.
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The only people that those seem to work for have huge garages and rig a lift to just let them hang. Always a better sounding idea when being designed vs IRL.
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I actually looked into getting one of those rigs that hangs from the garage ceiling. The truth is in Las Vegas the hard top was never really required (or useful)
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In the 50s they might have made some sense. Back then people bought a T-Bird and used it all year. These days people buy that kind of car as a seasonal car so why need the hard top?
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In the 50s they might have made some sense. Back then people bought a T-Bird and used it all year. These days people buy that kind of car as a seasonal car so why need the hard top?
My car had a soft top too so I really never needed the hard top. It was my daily driver for a few years but then it started breaking regularly. It was a very expensive car and after that I have always had cars under full warranty. It was $4500 to replace the ABS system in 1992. The ECM also went out about the same time for $2700. That $7200 was close to the price of a new low end car at that time. It was the worst car that I have ever owned.
models under $10,000 in 1992, including:
Ford: Had eight cars under $10,000
Chrysler: Had 14 cars under $10,000
Toyota: Had eight models under $10,000
Nissan: Had four models under $10,000
Honda: Had four models under $10,000
this is what I tooled around in in the late 60s, early 70s
I wasn't a hippy but I was a hippyish
I put flower decals on it
this is the closest pic I could find to it - the red color faded similar to that - but mine had a sun roof - got around 35 m.p.g. highway iirc
I loved that car
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this is what I tooled around in in the late 60s, early 70s
I wasn't a hippy but I was a hippyish
I put flower decals on it
this is the closest pic I could find to it - the red color faded similar to that - but mine had a sun roof - got around 35 m.p.g. highway iirc
I loved that car
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My very first car was a 56 Volkswagen Beetle. No gas gauge it had a dipstick that you put into the gas tank which was in the front under the hood. No heater so you carried a scraper to constantly scrape the windshield on the inside in the winter. Got 40 miles to the gallon though and was actually fun to drive. When I say no heater it actually came from the factory with no heater. You could buy aftermarket electric heaters but I heard they didn't work with a crap. The battery was 6 volt.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
this is what I tooled around in in the late 60s, early 70s
I wasn't a hippy but I was a hippyish
I put flower decals on it
this is the closest pic I could find to it - the red color faded similar to that - but mine had a sun roof - got around 35 m.p.g. highway iirc
I loved that car
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My very first car was a 56 Volkswagen Beetle. No gas gauge it had a dipstick that you put into the gas tank which was in the front under the hood. No heater so you carried a scraper to constantly scrape the windshield on the inside in the winter. Got 40 miles to the gallon though and was actually fun to drive. When I say no heater it actually came from the factory with no heater. You could buy aftermarket electric heaters but I heard they didn't work with a crap. The battery was 6 volt.
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gas was then was around $.35 per gallon
A round trip to Ocean City, MD from where I lived was about 284 miles - the whole trip only cost me about $3.00 in gas
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If you didn't roll down a window, you didn't get any heat.
This did absolutely nothing to defog the windshield, so a few old terrycloth towels were always kept handy.
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this is what I tooled around in in the late 60s, early 70s
I wasn't a hippy but I was a hippyish
I put flower decals on it
this is the closest pic I could find to it - the red color faded similar to that - but mine had a sun roof - got around 35 m.p.g. highway iirc
I loved that car
.
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My very first car was a 56 Volkswagen Beetle. No gas gauge it had a dipstick that you put into the gas tank which was in the front under the hood. No heater so you carried a scraper to constantly scrape the windshield on the inside in the winter. Got 40 miles to the gallon though and was actually fun to drive. When I say no heater it actually came from the factory with no heater. You could buy aftermarket electric heaters but I heard they didn't work with a crap. The battery was 6 volt.
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gas was then was around $.35 per gallon
I could make a round trip to Ocean City, MD from where I lived was about 284 miles - the whole trip only cost me about $3.00
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When I had my VW gas was 19 cents a gallon. I could fill it up for under $2 and drive it 400 miles. My Harley has a bigger engine than that Volkswagen did.
Quote: DieterThe aftermarket heater we had was an arrangement where it drew air into the cabin through tubes around the exhaust manifold, and possibly around the cylinder cooling fins.
If you didn't roll down a window, you didn't get any heat.
This did absolutely nothing to defog the windshield, so a few old terrycloth towels were always kept handy.
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Wow, not something I remember from childhood makes a little sense. My mother had some girlfriends that all worked together before they were married and had kids. They met once a month at rotating houses and had a picnic for them and the kids once a year. One of them had a Beetle, had to be a later one 1970s. She said how she wanted her husband to get her a car with heat. Even as a kid I knew A/C was not always there but never heard of a car with no heat. That must have been the thing.
Simple design, very economical, but the only creature comfort was usually a bud vase on the dashboard.
a couple of really strong football players wanted to mess with me and my car for laughs
each one got on one side of the front of the car
and they grabbed the bumper and picked the front of the VW about 3 feet off the ground with me in it_____________(-:/
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Quote: DieterThe early VW's used an "air cooled" engine; no coolant (antifreeze), no radiator. Since there was no coolant, there was no hot coolant to blow the air over for a cabin heater.
Simple design, very economical, but the only creature comfort was usually a bud vase on the dashboard.
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My daughters VW had an oil heated heater. The engine oil ran to a radiator type device under the passenger seat dashboard. I dont know if that was original or aftermarket.
Quote: DieterThe early VW's used an "air cooled" engine; no coolant (antifreeze), no radiator. Since there was no coolant, there was no hot coolant to blow the air over for a cabin heater.
Simple design, very economical, but the only creature comfort was usually a bud vase on the dashboard.
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I remember a corvette owner telling me it wasn’t a sports car if you have air conditioning. I don’t remember what year vet he had. Just that it was a white convertible.
Quote: DRichQuote: DieterThe early VW's used an "air cooled" engine; no coolant (antifreeze), no radiator. Since there was no coolant, there was no hot coolant to blow the air over for a cabin heater.
Simple design, very economical, but the only creature comfort was usually a bud vase on the dashboard.
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My daughters VW had an oil heated heater. The engine oil ran to a radiator type device under the passenger seat dashboard. I dont know if that was original or aftermarket.
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I once had a 50cc Honda scooter which had a radiator.
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I once had a 50cc Honda scooter which had a radiator.
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That is crazy. I had an 800cc motorcycle with no radiator.
Quote: rxwineQuote: DRichQuote: DieterThe early VW's used an "air cooled" engine; no coolant (antifreeze), no radiator. Since there was no coolant, there was no hot coolant to blow the air over for a cabin heater.
Simple design, very economical, but the only creature comfort was usually a bud vase on the dashboard.
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My daughters VW had an oil heated heater. The engine oil ran to a radiator type device under the passenger seat dashboard. I dont know if that was original or aftermarket.
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I once had a 50cc Honda scooter which had a radiator.
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Those little Metropolitans were pretty fun.
As for an oil line heater... I can believe that was aftermarket. I did some looking; apparently the weird exhaust heater was standard, but it was common to bypass or remove it if the exhaust pipes rusted out (and started blowing fumes into the cabin), as VW replacement parts were a bit pricey and many VW owners were, uhh, "budget conscious".
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I once had a 50cc Honda scooter which had a radiator.
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That is crazy. I had an 800cc motorcycle with no radiator.
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I once had. 88 LeBaron convertible with a busted radiator.
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a couple of really strong football players wanted to mess with me and my car for laughs
each one got on one side of the front of the car
and they grabbed the bumper and picked the front of the VW about 3 feet off the ground with me in it_____________(-:/
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Lucky the bumpers stayed on. They were worthless.
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I once had a 50cc Honda scooter which had a radiator.
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That is crazy. I had an 800cc motorcycle with no radiator.
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I once had. 88 LeBaron convertible with a busted radiator.
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I wanted a LeBaron convertible but am happy I didn't get one. They were junk.
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I once had a 50cc Honda scooter which had a radiator.
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That is crazy. I had an 800cc motorcycle with no radiator.
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I once had. 88 LeBaron convertible with a busted radiator.
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I wanted a LeBaron convertible but am happy I didn't get one. They were junk.
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You do not know how junk they were. Prettiest car I ever owned, but it showed why Chrysler had the bad reputation it had. 80s Chryslers ran great for about 45000 miles, then things started breaking. After 60000 you knew the guy at the service desk on a first name basis.
Ricardo Montalban - Chrysler commercial______________
"I could ask for nothing beyond the quality of Cordoba's workmanship." - and his classic line
"seats available even in soft Corinthian leather"
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Ricardo Montalban - Chrysler commercial
"I could ask for nothing beyond the quality of Cordoba's workmanship." - and his classic line
"seats available even in soft Corinthian leather"
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The term Corinthian leather was totally fake. It was made up by an advertising agency and all the leather was actually made in the United States. Corinthian leather does not exist in the current simulation.
Chrysler is still around - but just barely - has less than 1% of U.S. market share - they really made some junk
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Wow, I wasn't sure if I remembered this commercial until I read "Corinthian leather" in your post above. My brain automatically read those words in Ricardo Montalban's voice in my head!Quote: lilredrooster.
Ricardo Montalban - Chrysler commercial______________Chrysler is still around - but barely - less that 1% of the U.S. market
"I could ask for nothing beyond the quality of Cordoba's workmanship." - and his classic line
"seats available even in soft Corinthian leather"
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the Lincoln Town Car and the Cadillac Fleetwood were what rich people would drive before Mercedes and BMW became very popular
we used to call them "boats" - as in "hey, take a look at that boat"___________imo Lincoln looks more impressive
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Quote: EvenBob***Corinthian leather does not exist in the current simulation.
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If and when you figure out how to upgrade from the current simulation, would you mind sharing…? I would prefer a sim where every game in the casino is exploitable, and nobody else knows… Thanks!
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Ricardo Montalban - Chrysler commercial
"I could ask for nothing beyond the quality of Cordoba's workmanship." - and his classic line
"seats available even in soft Corinthian leather"
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The term Corinthian leather was totally fake. It was made up by an advertising agency and all the leather was actually made in the United States. Corinthian leather does not exist in the current simulation.
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What are you talking about? I am planning a vacation to Cornthia next summer!
You had lots of choice. They made the 2 door coupe even though it sold less well because it rounded out the line. Way back they had the "business coupe" which like "work truck" sounds like it should be top of the line even if it is really the bottom.
Even the first Mustang had Coupe, Fastback, and convertible.
Today it is one model, take it or leave it.
Quote: AZDuffmanSpeaking of cars, remember when they would have a "model line" with different types? 2 door, 4-door, convertible, wagon, etc?
You had lots of choice. They made the 2 door coupe even though it sold less well because it rounded out the line. Way back they had the "business coupe" which like "work truck" sounds like it should be top of the line even if it is really the bottom.
Even the first Mustang had Coupe, Fastback, and convertible.
Today it is one model, take it or leave it.
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Full circle.
You can have any color you like as long as it’s black.
Quote: unJonQuote: AZDuffmanSpeaking of cars, remember when they would have a "model line" with different types? 2 door, 4-door, convertible, wagon, etc?
You had lots of choice. They made the 2 door coupe even though it sold less well because it rounded out the line. Way back they had the "business coupe" which like "work truck" sounds like it should be top of the line even if it is really the bottom.
Even the first Mustang had Coupe, Fastback, and convertible.
Today it is one model, take it or leave it.
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Full circle.
You can have any color you like as long as it’s black.
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We lost much there, too. They used to do far cooler colors.
Quote: unJonQuote: AZDuffmanSpeaking of cars, remember when they would have a "model line" with different types? 2 door, 4-door, convertible, wagon, etc?
You had lots of choice. They made the 2 door coupe even though it sold less well because it rounded out the line. Way back they had the "business coupe" which like "work truck" sounds like it should be top of the line even if it is really the bottom.
Even the first Mustang had Coupe, Fastback, and convertible.
Today it is one model, take it or leave it.
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Full circle.
You can have any color you like as long as it’s black.
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And the reason for that was flat black dried almost immediately after it was applied and every other color it took hours. Just painting it flat black got it off the assembly line almost immediately for Henry Ford.
