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July 18th, 2021 at 9:11:57 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I don't dislike my career, I dislike doing any work or chores. I want to lay on a beach and read books the rest of my life.



Think big. I want to lay on the beach and have people read to me for the rest of my life.
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July 18th, 2021 at 9:47:49 AM permalink
I remember when a lot of people from Portland drove non-stop or flew to Reno to gamble, as it was then the closest place available for Portlanders.

Hot August nights used to be a very big deal.
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July 18th, 2021 at 10:25:26 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

We do nothing.




out of curiosity - if you don't mind my asking - how do you fill your days?

sleeping might be about 8 hours - eating might be about 3 hours - - maybe an hour for other personal stuff - that's 12 hours

there still are 12 hours left in a day



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July 18th, 2021 at 2:12:57 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I remember when a lot of people from Portland drove non-stop or flew to Reno to gamble, as it was then the closest place available for Portlanders.

Hot August nights used to be a very big deal.



I have several limited edition Coke bottle sets with a 50s vibe that commemorate Hot August Nights.
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July 18th, 2021 at 4:09:19 PM permalink
Remember when you could call the IRS, your health insurance carrier, your bank or whomever, and they would answer the phone by the fourth ring? And a live person with English as their first language directed your call?

In my recollection this all changed with the recession of 2008. A lot of businesses and agencies were hurting and short-staffing ensued. Then after the recession was over these businesses and agencies just remained short staffed. And then they blamed delays on Covid. Now what are they blaming it on?

If you call a business or agency and get a message that says: “Due to the high frequency of calls you may experience delays…” don’t believe it. They’re getting the same amount of calls they always do. They are just understaffed. Tell them so!

I called the IRS the other day and was told my hold time would be between an hour and an hour and fifteen minutes.

The twenty-first century should bring advancements that make our life easier and better, but in many ways our lives are worse.
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July 18th, 2021 at 5:18:39 PM permalink
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there still are 12 hours left in a day



He answered that many times, he lays on the couch and watches sports for hours and hours. Live sports, reruns of sports, He's not picky
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July 18th, 2021 at 7:28:52 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

out of curiosity - if you don't mind my asking - how do you fill your days?

sleeping might be about 8 hours - eating might be about 3 hours - - maybe an hour for other personal stuff - that's 12 hours

there still are 12 hours left in a day



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I spend way too much time on these forums, I probably surf the internet 8 hours a day and always have some sporting event on the television. If I didn't have to work I would spend most of my time on a beach reading books.
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July 18th, 2021 at 7:30:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

He answered that many times, he lays on the couch and watches sports for hours and hours. Live sports, reruns of sports, He's not picky



That is true. I would say 90% of the time that I am home I have sports on and a laptop in my lap. I rarely lay on the couch, my prefered watching spot is the bedroom.
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July 18th, 2021 at 8:13:49 PM permalink
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That is true. I would say 90% of the time that I am home I have sports on and a laptop in my lap. I rarely lay on the couch, my prefered watching spot is the bedroom.


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July 19th, 2021 at 4:42:25 PM permalink
I remember looking at the pictures of various animals with this product:

The Proboscis monkey was memorable. I also remember getting new cards in the mail every so often (with a subscription). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_Treasury
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July 22nd, 2021 at 4:52:28 PM permalink
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change belts...............they were worn by ice cream truck drivers and train conductors...............can't think of anybody else who wore them
but they were definitely super cool and fashionable - ........................(~:/

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July 22nd, 2021 at 6:48:09 PM permalink
Bus drivers and arcade attendants.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 6:54:23 PM permalink
I used a change belt (or whatever it's called) when going door to door every Friday collecting the money owed for the newspapers I was delivering to the customer's home.
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July 23rd, 2021 at 10:38:24 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

out of curiosity - if you don't mind my asking - how do you fill your days?


I am 80 yrs. old and four days a week I do volunteer work for a food bank.. I pick up food donations from Target, Kroger, Publix, and Walmart. I load somewhere between 500 to 1200 lbs. of food a week into my van to offload at the food bank campus. I do NOT do much unloading because at the end of the run, I am whipped. I play golf twice a week and rest watching TV movies and sports. The exercise I get from all of the above controls my diabetes and allows for reasonably good health.

Pretty much, everything is good, and I am grateful.

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July 23rd, 2021 at 12:17:38 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

I am 80 yrs. old and four days a week I do volunteer work for a food bank.. I pick up food donations from Target, Kroger, Publix, and Walmart. I load somewhere between 500 to 1200 lbs. of food a week into my van to offload at the food bank campus. I do NOT do much unloading because at the end of the run, I am whipped. I play golf twice a week and rest watching TV movies and sports. The exercise I get from all of the above controls my diabetes and allows for reasonably good health.

Pretty much, everything is good, and I am grateful.

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I play golf once a week and that causes me to hurt,
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July 23rd, 2021 at 1:05:35 PM permalink
1965 might have had the best shows ever on television. So many shows that were around for years came on in 1965. I was a junior in high school and I looked forward to TV every single night. Friday night was the best night. The Wild Wild West, Get Smart, The Flintstones, The Addams Family, Hogan's Heroes, Gomer Pyle, Smothers Brothers, The Man from Uncle.

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July 23rd, 2021 at 1:14:52 PM permalink
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1965 might have had the best shows ever on television. So many shows that were around for years came on in 1965. I was a junior in high school and I looked forward to TV every single night. Friday night was the best night. The Wild Wild West, Get Smart, The Flintstones, The Addams Family, Hogan's Heroes, Gomer Pyle, Smothers Brothers, The Man from Uncle.



I will still occasionally watch an episode of Hogan's Heroes when going to bed.
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July 23rd, 2021 at 3:23:31 PM permalink
I had a crush on Angela Cartwright from "Lost in Space."

"Combat" helped me move on from "Sgt. Rock" comics.
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July 26th, 2021 at 3:26:45 PM permalink
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my favorite pro wrestler of all time

George Cannon - know as "Crybaby"

He got the nickname "Crybaby" from his ability to wipe sweat from his face, making it look as though he were weeping





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July 26th, 2021 at 7:47:49 PM permalink
I only knew Crybaby Cannon as a manager. He was the main heel manager for the IWA when it made its move to be the first national company. He was the first person in the industry that I saw wear a hard that and use it as weapon.
I saw Mil Mascaras give him a dropkick and Cannons belly absorbed him up to his knees.
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July 28th, 2021 at 9:01:34 AM permalink
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50s gangbangers NYC


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July 28th, 2021 at 12:04:51 PM permalink
https://youtu.be/zpVYhH9ITvo


The real mean streets of Jackson Heights
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August 4th, 2021 at 11:58:01 AM permalink
I'd forgotten how educational Tennessee Tuxedo cartoons were. In this episode, it sounds as if Don Adams ad-libbed a line and they kept it!

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August 13th, 2021 at 12:12:42 PM permalink
Ever had roasted chestnuts?

I don't mean recently, but before the Chestnut plague nearly wiped out the American Chestnut tree.

They thought they were all gone, but finally found a few living ones. But I wonder if those possibly don't represent the best of the Chestnut. Could be a strain of hardy survivors. Like many plants the flavor of some strains may be preferred over others.
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August 14th, 2021 at 2:01:32 AM permalink
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at their lunch counter you could get everything a kid could possibly want to eat:

hot dogs, burgers, fountain cokes on ice, shakes, and slices of pie for dessert - it was kid heaven

the one near me sold live birds in cages

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August 14th, 2021 at 8:59:17 AM permalink
The Woolworth near my grandmothers used to have a huge lunch counter and if you ordered a banana split, you choose one of a couple dozen balloons. The server would pop the balloon to reveal what price you paid. I think it ranged from a penny to a dollar with most balloons being around 50 cents. I got one for a nickel once.
The big advantage play was they sold comics and you had to pay for the comic before you sat down, but if you bought 12 cent comic, you could read it and switch it for another one and no one noticed or cared. I once read two comics and strolled out with a different one, thinking how bad ass I was. A couple year later when I went back, they had this short fat undercover security guard who hated kids and would literally follow us round the store. One of my friends called him a nazi and some random customer started lecturing us about respecting his authority. She ended up being quite surprised by my friends extensive vocabulary.
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August 14th, 2021 at 9:43:24 AM permalink
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the H.L. Greene's near me had the pop a balloon thing too
I tried it one week and I got an ice cream sundae for a penny
I came back next week and did it again - and this time it was full price - and I didn't have any money
the waitress didn't bust me, I was so green - I thought she was going to call the police
she was nice, she didn't even give me a frown

at a little drug store near me at age 12 we always use to go in trying to peek at the Mens Magazines
the owner would come shoo us away
we got to know her rounds - and came in when she was busy
got some good looks too


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HoJo's - always a friendly site for a traveling man
they had an orange roof and their signature drink was an orange freeze
Hot Shoppes restaurants were huge in the DC area -
urban legend has it that McDonalds ripped off Hot Shoppes Mighty Mo_____ their Big Mac was the exact same thing - the Mighty Mo cost more - they used better meat

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this is a very important point - the Mighty Mo's special dressing was exactly the same as Mickey Dees Big Mac
please note the sesame seed bun - I don't want anybody to miss that
it's real funny to me that the ad for the Mo says "It's a Whopper"
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August 18th, 2021 at 1:17:24 PM permalink
I was watching The Andy Griffith Show today and I'm always tickled with the character of Aunt Bee because the actress who played her is just about the polar opposite of Aunt Bee in real life. Frances Bavier spent most of her career as a Broadway stage actress. She graduated from both Columbia University and the New York City School of Dramatic Arts in the 1920s. By the 1950s she was in her 50s and had to turn to bit parts on TV in order to keep working.

The character of Aunt Bee that she created was always hustling and bustling around the kitchen cooking up a storm, winning prizes at state fairs for her homemade pies and jams and jellies. In real life she couldn't even cook. She was a native New Yorker and super stuck-up about her abilities as an actress. Nobody on the set at the Andy Griffith Show could stand the woman, cast and crew avoided her like the plague because she argued with everybody. She thought her talent was totally wasted on a paltry TV show. Yet she stayed there for eight seasons. She even called Andy Griffith a few months before she died decades later and apologized to him for being such a jerk on the set.

In the 1960s and into the 70s television was looked at as not a place for real stars. Look at Don Knotts, he left a number one TV show because he wanted to be a movie star because that's where the real fame and money was. McLean Stevenson and Gary Burghoff left MASH for the same reason. Can you imagine that McLean Stevenson thought he was so talented that he was wasted playing second fiddle on a TV show. Totally different today.
You get a good part in a TV series and you stay there till it's over.

Here's is Frances Bavier 30 years before she was Aunt Bee. Before and after.


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Kids are filtering to college right about now. The youngest were born in 2003. Imagine what "remember when" means to them!

"Seinfeld" went off the air 5 years before they were even born. Think about what shows went off the air 5 years before you were born and what relevance they have to your life.

Obama is the first POTUS they will remember, who is the first POTUS that you remember?

The Gulf War was 12 years before they were born. What war was 12 years before you were born?

The last Oldsmobile was made when they were 1 and the last Plymouth before they were born. Rotating your hand to signal "roll your window down" will probably leave them confused. The equivalent to many reading this is a car with a choke.

Why someone would drive from Atlanta to Texas for Coors beer is a mystery to them. Well, to me, too.

There needs to be a term for this. I had a sort-of gap year and went "away" to college in 1990. That was 31 years ago. Meaning my relevance is the same as someone who went away to college in 1959 has to me. What term could be used to describe that relevance equivalence?

I also ask myself did the world change more from them to me than me to today's kids?
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August 19th, 2021 at 8:05:45 AM permalink
Your math of the Gulf War seems off.
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August 19th, 2021 at 8:52:43 AM permalink
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Your math of the Gulf War seems off.



You are correct. I corrected it. Too many numbers in my head at one time.
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:09:37 AM permalink
How many remember "duck and cover?"



Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:32:57 AM permalink
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How many remember "duck and cover?"



Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...



I saw one of those films once, said if you were on the street to duck to the sidewalk and proceed "when safe."
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:37:09 AM permalink
There is an autobiographical graphic novel from Japan titled" I saw it". It is by the most famous cartoonist of his generation in Japan and tells of his childhood in Hiroshima.
On the day on the bombing, he was walking to school with two or three companions. He bent down to tie his shoe and the world turned upside down. A three foot high wall
where he was tying his shoe saved his life. All that was left of his companions were their shoes. His mother was pregnant at the time and his sister was born all messed up and died after a short time. It was amazing reading about life in Hiroshima after the bombing, all thru the eyes of a child. His family left the city for a very short time before going back to rebuild.
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:39:25 AM permalink
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How many remember "duck and cover?"



Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...




Shelter in Place/Active Shooter Drill?
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August 19th, 2021 at 12:07:51 PM permalink
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How many remember "duck and cover?"
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My dad in 1957 built an underground bomb shelter out of concrete blocks. We used it a couple times for a tornado shelter but nobody liked it because kept flooding it had to be pumped out all the time so it was really damp and musty. My parents sold the house 2 years later so it became somebody else's problem. If you were not alive then you have no idea how seriously we took the threat of being bombed by the Soviet Union. It was going to happen we thought it was only a matter of when.

This is kinda what ours looked like except ours was in the backyard.

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August 19th, 2021 at 1:24:21 PM permalink
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Why someone would drive from Atlanta to Texas for Coors beer is a mystery to them. Well, to me, too.



That was pretty funny and an unexpected throw in.
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August 19th, 2021 at 2:03:58 PM permalink
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If you were not alive then you have no idea how seriously we took the threat of being bombed by the Soviet Union. It was going to happen we thought it was only a matter of when.



By the 1980s we still took it serious but did not think we could survive as the effects of a bomb were better known. I still sort of remember a dream where we were nuked but it was mild and we were stuck at school, not allowed to leave.

What people might not know if not for one Russian who had the guts they would have launched on a false alarm. We were doing an exercise, they were told it was an exercise, but their mentality was that Operation Barbarossa was hidden as an exercise.
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August 19th, 2021 at 2:27:58 PM permalink
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By the 1980s we still took it serious but did not think we could survive as the effects of a bomb were better known. I still sort of remember a dream where we were nuked but it was mild and we were stuck at school, not allowed to leave.

What people might not know if not for one Russian who had the guts they would have launched on a false alarm. We were doing an exercise, they were told it was an exercise, but their mentality was that Operation Barbarossa was hidden as an exercise.




THE MAN WHO SAVED THE WORLD

Soviet Naval Officer Vasili Arkhipov

there was a written order okaying a release of a nuclear bomb onto mainland America from the submarine they were on in October of 1962

however, for the bomb to be released 3 men on the sub had to be in agreement about this, not two men

Arkhipov exercised his veto power and the bomb was not released

the first link is a summary of the incident
the 2nd link is the full PBS documentary




this is the Wiki summary of the incident:



"Vasily Aleksandrovich Arkhipov (Russian: Василий Александрович Архипов, IPA: [vɐˈsʲilʲɪj ɐlʲɪkˈsandrəvʲɪtɕ arˈxʲipəf], 30 January 1926 – 19 August 1998) was a Soviet Navy officer credited with preventing a Soviet nuclear strike (and, potentially, all-out nuclear war) during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Such an attack likely would have caused a major global thermonuclear response.[1]

On 27 October 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, a group of 11 United States Navy destroyers and the aircraft carrier USS Randolph located the diesel-powered, nuclear-armed Foxtrot-class submarine B-59 near Cuba. Despite being in international waters, the United States Navy started dropping signaling depth charges, explosives intended to force the submarine to come to the surface for identification. There had been no contact from Moscow for a number of days and, although the submarine's crew had earlier been picking up U.S. civilian radio broadcasts, once B-59 began attempting to hide from its U.S. Navy pursuers, it was too deep to monitor any radio traffic. Those on board did not know whether war had broken out or not.[6][7] The captain of the submarine, Valentin Grigorievitch Savitsky, decided that a war might already have started and wanted to launch a nuclear torpedo.[8]

Unlike the other submarines in the flotilla, three officers on board B-59 had to agree unanimously to authorize a nuclear launch: Captain Savitsky, the political officer Ivan Semonovich Maslennikov, and the flotilla commodore (and executive officer of B-59) Arkhipov. Typically, Soviet submarines armed with the "Special Weapon" only required the captain to get authorization from the political officer to launch a nuclear torpedo, but due to Arkhipov's position as commodore, B-59's captain also was required to gain his approval. An argument broke out, with only Arkhipov against the launch.[9]

Even though Arkhipov was second-in-command of the submarine B-59, he was in fact commodore of the entire submarine flotilla, including B-4, B-36 and B-130.[10] According to author Edward Wilson, the reputation Arkhipov had gained from his courageous conduct in the previous year's K-19 incident also helped him prevail.[8] Arkhipov eventually persuaded Savitsky to surface and await orders from Moscow. This effectively averted the general nuclear war which probably would have ensued if the nuclear weapon had been fired.[11] The submarine's batteries had run very low and the air conditioning had failed, causing extreme heat and high levels of carbon dioxide inside the submarine.[10] They were forced to surface amid the American pursuers and to return to the Soviet Union as a result.[3]"




https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-man-who-saved-the-world-about-this-episode/871/


https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/


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August 19th, 2021 at 2:56:38 PM permalink
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THE MAN WHO SAVED THE WORLD

Soviet Naval Officer Vasili Arkhipov



Must be more than one. I was thinking the guy who said six or so missiles was not an attack in the Able Archer exercise. His logic was we would launch with everything if we were to launch.

Jump to about 30:00 to see the Russian who's level head said not to attack.

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August 19th, 2021 at 4:32:00 PM permalink
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...Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...


Why wouldn't it work?
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August 19th, 2021 at 5:49:10 PM permalink
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Quote: MrV

How many remember "duck and cover?"



Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...




Shelter in Place/Active Shooter Drill?



Nope, for nuclear attack. Active school shooters weren't very trendy then.
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August 19th, 2021 at 6:21:27 PM permalink
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Why wouldn't it work?



Yeah, you're right.

Curling up under your desk GUARANTEES you'll survive a direct hit by a thermo-nuclear bomb.

Thanks for educating me about the harmlessness of nuclear weapons.
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August 19th, 2021 at 8:28:24 PM permalink
You must be younger than I thought; I was around for the tail end of the 'duck and cover' days. Do you really not know the reasoning behind that the drill?

A related tip: Don't watch tornadoes from behind plate glass windows.
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August 20th, 2021 at 2:01:05 AM permalink
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B-ball history:


before my time, of course
for many, many years the 2 hand set shot, along with the one hand set shot were staples of basketball

when the jump shot debuted many old school coaches didn't like it. they said:

"if you had to jump to get off your shot then you didn't have a shot"

many credit Wyoming star and NCAA player of the year Kenny Sailors with showing the first modern J in a college game

they can say what they want, but there's no doubt in my mind that the J was invented and came from the urban playgrounds - as did so many of b-ball's modern moves











the pic is of Kenny Sailors circa 1943 high up on a J - and the pic may not have caught him at the very top of his jump
this looks like a two handed jumper - before seeing this pic - I've never ever seen that type of shot before


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August 20th, 2021 at 6:27:06 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

How many remember "duck and cover?"



Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...



If you're far enough away to survive the initial blast, protection from falling debris rapidly moves up the priority list.
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August 20th, 2021 at 7:53:23 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: MrV

How many remember "duck and cover?"



Yeah, like THAT would have worked ...



If you're far enough away to survive the initial blast, protection from falling debris rapidly moves up the priority list.



Mostly just random luck if you survive in an area where those around you died. But you gotta work with what you have. I'm going to hold up a piece of cardboard if that's all I have. Maybe you survive the radiation, while the guy next to you dies. All you can do is try..
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August 20th, 2021 at 8:37:35 AM permalink
Just a matter of small trivia. In cases where there can be a thermal injury (but you don't catch on fire) even a moustache or beard is enough of a barrier to prevent serious injury to the skin. Probably doesn't do so well against radiation though.
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August 20th, 2021 at 8:39:00 AM permalink
I have a vague memory of watching a cartoon turtle wearing a helmet, but don't remember doing duck and cover drills. My younger sister insists that she did them in school but I think she is mistaken.
One school we attended had a giant slide in case of a fire for the kids on the top floors but we never practiced using it during fire drills.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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