Scioto with Tiltpoul!

There are few things in the world of gambling better than hitting for 4k (which can now be independently verified) at Wheeling Island Racetrack and Casino, but if anything can potentially rival that, it has having the opportunity to gamble with a gentleman and class act such as Tiltpoul.

I was scheduled to meet Tiltpoul at Scioto Downs at 11:00a.m., but he was running twenty minutes late due to a better-than-expected performance at Horseshoe Cleveland while I ran twenty minutes early due to unexpectedy good traffic.

This gave me plenty of time to sign up for my player's club card, which is good, because it ended up being a fifteen minute line. I basically spent the rest of the time meandering around and smoked a cigarette in the outside area between the Clubhouse and Slots Parlor. I decided to make my way out front because there was absolutely no cell signal inside of the casino, that is probably an AT&T exclusive feature, as is not having a cell signal down most of I-70.

I called Tiltpoul who was actually just pulling in, he only ended up being ten minutes late instead of twenty. It's not even really late when you consider he's coming from Cleveland. I scheduled myself to get there exactly on time and was twenty minutes early, tons of variables.

I asked Tiltpoul if he would care for a drink, on me, but he informed me that he was not going to have any drinks that day because he had way too much to do. We went to the beverage station where he got a dark pop...I didn't notice what kind, but no ice...and I got a cup of coffee. The coffee wasn't bad, better than Wheeling Island, not as good as Denny's. I give it a 7/10, it was robust and had a nice aroma of freshly ground bean, but it was not kept hot enough. I don't think you should be able to sip it straight away, which I was, and actually had 25% of it gone in about the first minute.

It would have gotten an 8.5 had it been slightly too hot to drink at first.

We then went to the events area where one goes to spin the Free Play wheel. Scioto Downs alleges that you can win between $25-$200 Free Play, but as Tiltpoul mentioned on his blog, it's an electronic wheel, so the result is $25 probably 100/100 times. That's still very generous considering I had spent $0.00 there lifetime, and drank half a cup of their coffee.

I went around looking for the, "Right," machine. My initial concern was that all of the Free Play had to go to one machine, which Tiltpoul verified, but only because he misunderstood my question...which was probably poorly phrased. It turns out that it can be broken up, which I discovered after sitting down at the first machine, in multiples of $5.00.

I told Tiltpoul about my affinity for machines with perfectly graduated payouts, in other words, a Ten-Credit bet is worth exactly 10x a One Credit bet across the board, or a Two Credit is exactly two times a one credit. I pointed out such machines as we circled the casino (with me apologizing profusely for taking so long in picking the first machine, though he didn't seem to mind) and he seemed genuinely surprised that there were so many such machines.

I went with 5 Lines * 5/Line on a $0.05 machine, and very quickly lost three spins, broke even on the fourth spin, then lost the fifth spin. I thought we were at a penny machine at first, because they put this nickel machine right in the middle of all of these penny machines!!! I believe it was a Diamond Run machine.

The two of us then went over to QuickHits, and this casino has more QuickHits machines than any place I have ever seen in my life, but unfortunately, none of them are flat tops. Tiltpoul tended to wonder whether or not there was any such thing as a Flat Top QuickHits machine, and I told him that nearly half of them at Wheeling Island are Flat Tops. I believe that he stated that he has been to WI on a few occasions, but has never actually played slots there.

Tiltpoul and I ended up with an unspoken arrangement that we would watch one another pick when Free Games came up and that we would watch one another's Free Games play through and cheer for each other. I was hitting an inordinate ampount of Free Games, while Tilt, unfortunately, was probably running a little bit under the amount that I consider average. Between the two of us, we hit for many 7 * 2x Free Games, the second worst possibility out of six equally likely possibilities. (Discluding Wild +5 Spins)

I got up to slighty under $70, using my $20 remaining Free Play and was presented with my first dilemna. The cocktail waitress, who was moderately attractive, stopped over and asked if we wanted anything. I asked for a Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald, and even though she had no idea what I was talking about she said she'd look for it. I again asked Tiltpoul if he would like one, and he reiterated his comments from earlier, which I knew he would do, but you still can't get one without asking!

The waitress brought me a Great Lakes Burning River Pale Ale instead of an Edmund Fitzgerald Porter, but that's okay. She announced that the total was $4.75, because I had apparently ordered an entire six-pack of Great Lakes without knowing it. I thought it would be $3.50-$4.00 and I would hand her a five. I didn't have any singles. My options were to either tip a quarter, ask for a few singles back, or tip her $5.25 handing her two fives. The quarter was unacceptable, it would seem miserly to ask for a few ones, so I just handed her two fives and told her to keep it. She was unexpectedly very appreciative, thanking me twice and profusely, it must have been a slow day for her. That would not be surprising considering no liquor on Sunday.

I drank my beer and played my ticket down to $50, at which point Tiltpoul stated he would like to try the Monopoly machines.

The Monopoly machines didn't favor either of us, Tiltpoul had some good looks with two Bonus Game symbols, but I don't think he ever hit for one. I minimum betted my Ticket down to $36 and then pulled my ticket out of there.

Tiltpoul then declared it was time to leave, but I asked him to watch a $10 spin first. We went into the separate high-limit room where he goaded me to attempt a $25/spin or $100/spin as I so often encourage AceofSpades to do. I playfully reminded him that the difference between AceofSpades and myself is that Ace gets $500 Free Play compared to my $25.

I ended up doing two $5 pulls on a $5 Max Two Credits machine that had a perfectly graduated payout. I blanked on both of them, but almost mixed some bars on the second pull, just nobody home on the third reel. It was a Double Diamond machine. I ticketed out the remaining $10 of $20.

I walked Tiltpoul outside where we wished one another well. I would suggest to the ladies and gentlemen of the board that, if you ever have the chance to gamble with Tiltpoul, you should do so as he is an engaging conversationalist with a knack for making any conversation interesting and a genuine class act. The only thing I noticed is that he is somewhat shy if he doesn't know a person, as he did not seem to engage anyone except me.

I will say that one funny thing that happened was he got carded and had a wristband slapped on him as soon as we walked inside. I was mildly irritated by the fact that I am younger than Tiltpoul and had been in and out twice prior to this and nobody even asked to look at my I.D. The security guy pointed right at him and ignored me completely. I wasn't putting up with that. I stood there with my I.D. ready and waited for the security guy to finish up with Tiltpoul at which point I handed him my I.D. and thrust my wrist at him.

1:03: -$20 ($10 Loss and $10 beer/tip) + $36 Ticket = $16

It was at this point that I cashed my $10 ticket, but decided to keep my $36 ticket in my pocket so that I would cash that out if I lost my gambling money and still have something. I put $20 into a different QuickHits machine and lost it almost immediately.

It was now 1:10 and I was down $4 incuding my $36 ticket. I thought about leaving at this point as I was upset about being down money even though I started with $25 for free. I decided to ride it out a little longer, though, because $10 of that was beer/tip so I was technically up $6.

I went to a different QuickHits machine and put $20 into it. I had an inconsequential Free Games for 10 * 2x on my third spin, but then hit a six QuickHits mini=Progressive for $62 on my seventeenth spin. I had $87 in the machine when I ticketed out after playing just about even for ten more spins and deciding there was no freegames coming.

1:22: $47 + $36 Ticket = $83.

This is normally when I would take a Tables break, but there were none there so I thought about leaving. I remembered about the horses just then and recalled telling Tilt that I had never bet the horses before, so I smoked a cigarette in the area between Clubhouse/Parlor and went to bet the horses on simulcast.

I entered the Clubhouse going to the station and asking the odds on the upcoming race. The lady behind the counter was confused asking, "Which one?" and I told her just whatever race was coming up. She explained to me that there were many races coming up, and I'd need to go back outside and purchase a program if I wanted the odds.

I went outside and bought a Tioga Downs program because they were $1 and the rest were $2. The channel for Tioga Downs was 28 and the first race was in progress, so I looked at the second race in the book. I realized that with the odds I could put $2 on 6/9 horses to win and I would win on five horses and break even on one, I reasonsed this gave me a 66.6% chance to break even or better.

I made my bets, after a 2 minute training by the lady on how to properly call my bets, and then stood in front of the larger Channel 28 TV. I then noticed a bunch of small TV's below, with seating, and wandered around looking for one labeled 28. I noticed that none of the TV's were labelled, so I asked a guy, "Where can I find one for Channel 28?" He told me that I could change the channel on any of the small TV's, hence, any TV could have Channel 28. I sat at the table next to his, changed the channel, and thanked him.

The next ten minutes were the most boring ten minutes of my life. They should really put some slots in the clubhouse, or at least some magazines, so people have something to do while they wait for their race to start. The race was finally getting ready to start, but then I noticed...tomy dismay...that the book was wrong about all of the odds.

I asked the guy at the table next to me what the deal was with all of the odds changing, and though he never really answered the question, he asked my what my bets were. I told him what my bets were and he was very kind, gentle and patient in explaining exactly why the way I was betting was God-Awful, and that I was probably going to lose $12. He then asked for my book and explained that he would not bet that race at all, but detailed exactly what he would do if he absolutely had to bet that race, I didn't understand a single word he said.

In any event, of my six horses that would either win or break even, I still had five that would win, but now I had one that would lose me money if he won. The top three horses the entire race, however, all belonged to me except, at one point, a horse that wasn't mine was in third. This was the second race of the day there and a horse named, "Forward Bliss," didn't decide to outrun the total horses until the end, but he won by a good margin. The head of the second place horse was only halfway up Forward Bliss' body. I exclaimed, "Oh yeah, seventy-three to one, Forward Bliss, one time, baby!"

This proclaimation drew a couple of annoyed glances, apparently my decorum was improper for a horse simulcast. The guy next to me congratulated me but informed me that his way of betting would have won me over $500 on that race, even though he never mentioned Forward Bliss. I didn't argue with him.

Bliss actually got me 73.5:1, and you get your original $2 back, so I got $149. I tipped the lady $5.00, but then I realized that it was a different lady, so I went to the lady who sold me the ticket and gave her $5.00, as well.

$83 + $138 ($149 - Tip - Program = $138) = $221

I considered doing another race, but they take too long in between races and the place is otherwise boring. Besides, I figured it would be cool to retire from horse picking with a lifetime perfect record and 7350% career return. I doubt if most people can say that.

I went back inside and stuck another $20 in a QuickHits machine. This time it was the 5 QuickHits mini-Progressive, most for slightly over $17.00, that I was hitting at a ridiculous pace. I played it up and down and at 3:30p.m. my cell alarm went off indicating my firm time to leave. I had $82 and some change on my ticket when I cashed out, so $62 subtracting the original $20.

$221 + $62 = +$283 on the day for nearly four hours.

I'll take it!

$221 + $62 = +$283 on the day for nearly four hours.

I'll take it!

CONGRATULATIONS Hopefully you will not give it back. LOL

Welcome to the club of AP horseplayers. I'm up on my exactly one horse bet ever. (Shackleford, Preakness, W. See my blog.)

Are there really flattop slots? I've never seen a lay flat slot like the old Pacman games.

Nice use of "pop." Go Midwest! (Except St. Louis and Milwaukee. They're weird.)

They have a beer named after the Edmund Fitzgerald? Its
that really disrespectful? I don't seen any beer named after
the Titanic or the Hindenburg.

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This proclaimation drew a couple of annoyed glances, apparently my decorum was improper for a horse simulcast. The guy next to me congratulated me but informed me that his way of betting would have won me over $500 on that race, even though he never mentioned Forward Bliss. I didn't argue with him.

Awesome hit.

There is no decorum for simulcast betting. They are just jealous.

And "his way of betting" would have won over $500. Uh huh. Proof is in the winnings. Which you had. Again, cool win!

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They have a beer named after the Edmund Fitzgerald? Its
that really disrespectful? I don't seen any beer named after
the Titanic or the Hindenburg.

Perhaps you should go to their website and read the synopsis. They have beers named after heroes and tragedies from the Great Lakes States like Eliot Ness (who helped bring down Al Capone) or Burning River (named after the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland which set itself ablaze in 1969). Great Lakes is one of the Best Breweries in America IMO. While some breweries do IPAs really well there are other styles of brewing which they don't. I have yet to have a bad beer made by them and I have had Burning River (American Pale Ale), Edmund Fitzgeral (Porter), Eliot Ness (Amber Lager), Dortmunder Gold (Gold Lager), and my personal favorite Commodore Perry (IPA)

Responses, but first a correction:

CORRECTION:

I forgot to consider the $10 I lost on the horses because I had put $2.00 each on six different horses. That puts me +$273 for the day, +$139 for that race (discluding tips/program), and +1241.66% lifetime as an undefeated horse bettor.

Buzzpaff,

Thanks!

I have no plans to give it back, at least it would take 5.46 of my normal WI sessions to give it back. My usual session is generally lose $50 or win $100+ in multiples of $25.00, so we'll see how it goes.

I saw many people with Free Play coupons at Scioto from the mail, so I am hoping I get some. I was up and down so much on the machines that, despite the win, it would not surprise me to find out that I had run over a grand in bets through them.

Teddys

Thank you for your cordial welcome! I will check out your blog.

I mean slots with a fixed maximum payout when I use, "Flat top," I apologize for the error.

If you are familiar with horse betting, was that a good wager? I still have no idea if that was a fundamentally good way to bet or not. I might try it again if I knew it was.

FinsRule

Thank you very much!!! Do you know if that was actually a smart way to bet?

I'm glad there is no set decorum, but they did make me feel a little embarassed, that was one of the reasons I left. I also noticed many people standing around with no program, so I announced I was giving away a Tioga Downs program, and one guy took it.

I also don't understand this tendency of people to throw losing tickets on the floor. I saw one guy do it and then looked down and noticed that there is practically a blanket of them down there. It seemed to me that there were plenty of waste receptacles there...

Thank you again! I still have no idea what $500 he was talking about. He never said anything about, "Forward Bliss," at all. I was paying attention, too, I just didn't understand anything he said, but he was calling the horses by name and that never came out of his mouth.

SECOND RACE
Condition: 5 Year Olds & Under N/w 2 (F&M 3) Pm Races or $6,500 Lifetime
Gait: Pace Purse: $4,800 Class: NW2PM Dis: 1 Mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 83-0 Off Time: 1:52 PM

Time-27.3; 56.2; 1:25.1; 1:55.2

3-FORWARD BLISS (Stephane Bouchard) 149.00 63.00 18.80
8-BRONSON BLUE CHIP (James Meittinis) 21.20 11.80
1-TWIN B MY WAY (Fernand Paquet Jr) 3.70

EXACTA 3-8 3223.00
TRIFECTA 3-8-1 5557.00
10 CENT SUPERFECTA 3-8-1-6 910.70
EARLY DOUBLE 6-3 670.00

1st FORWARD BLISS (4, G, BLISSFULL HALL - SOUL SISTER - WESTERN HANOVER)
Winning Owners: Jason W Mac Dougall,Saco,ME

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Responses, but first a correction:

Thank you very much!!! Do you know if that was actually a smart way to bet?

I'm glad there is no set decorum, but they did make me feel a little embarassed, that was one of the reasons I left. I also noticed many people standing around with no program, so I announced I was giving away a Tioga Downs program, and one guy took it.

I also don't understand this tendency of people to throw losing tickets on the floor. I saw one guy do it and then looked down and noticed that there is practically a blanket of them down there. It seemed to me that there were plenty of waste receptacles there...

Thank you again! I still have no idea what $500 he was talking about. He never said anything about, "Forward Bliss," at all. I was paying attention, too, I just didn't understand anything he said, but he was calling the horses by name and that never came out of his mouth.

First - the odds change before the race is run because the more money that is bet on a horse, the lower (worse) the payouts are. That makes payouts on other horses higher.

1 - Was it a smart way to bet? If you can eliminate 25% or more of the money in the pool, and know that that money is bad, then it works. The problem is that you need to know that the favorite is not going to win. But typically, your way is not going to work, because you're going to end up betting $12, and a 4-1 shot is going to win, and you're going to lose $2. You're better off picking 2-3 horses (none the favorites) if you're going to use your strategy.

2 - Throwing losing tickets on the floor is tradition. They pay people to pick them up, I feel like throwing them on the ground helps create jobs.

3 - Looking at the chart I posted, I don't know what he's talking about either. Maybe he wanted you to put more money on the horses, and bet them across the board - win, place, show.

You should give horse racing another shot. It is a slower pace, but that's part of the fun. It's a social game. The horses come out, you take a look at them, see which ones you think look good. Then you read the program, see what they did the last few races. Then you end up picking based on their name. It's a good time.

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First - the odds change before the race is run because the more money that is bet on a horse, the lower (worse) the payouts are. That makes payouts on other horses higher.

I see. How would one find out what the odds are at the moment that one is betting?

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1 - Was it a smart way to bet? If you can eliminate 25% or more of the money in the pool, and know that that money is bad, then it works. The problem is that you need to know that the favorite is not going to win. But typically, your way is not going to work, because you're going to end up betting $12, and a 4-1 shot is going to win, and you're going to lose $2. You're better off picking 2-3 horses (none the favorites) if you're going to use your strategy.

Thank you, but I did not bet on the favorite. I actually did not think you got the orignial $2.00 back for a win, so when I picked six horses, the odds were all 6:1 or worse. There was also a 3:1, 4:1 and 7:2 horse going in, but I didn't pick any of those...I don't think. I might have picked the 7:2 by mistake; I should have kept the program and then I would know. The goal was to have as many horses as possible that would still show me a profit regardless of which of those won.

That's still a bad way to go because one of your horses ends up 4:1 and wins, you're saying?

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2 - Throwing losing tickets on the floor is tradition. They pay people to pick them up, I feel like throwing them on the ground helps create jobs.

I suppose that is true, I never realized that was a tradition, or I wouldn't have said anything. LOL

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3 - Looking at the chart I posted, I don't know what he's talking about either. Maybe he wanted you to put more money on the horses, and bet them across the board - win, place, show.

I suppose that could be. He may have even been talking about one of those things on the bottom in the thousands, but just betting less than $2 on it.

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You should give horse racing another shot. It is a slower pace, but that's part of the fun. It's a social game. The horses come out, you take a look at them, see which ones you think look good. Then you read the program, see what they did the last few races. Then you end up picking based on their name. It's a good time.

I guess it wouldn't be so bad with company, but I wouldn't know which horses look good, they'd all just look like horses. I guess that unless your strategy compels me to do otherwise, I would probably just do the same thing and try to have over half the horses in the race winning at a theoretical profit regardless of which one wins. I would definitely do it that way if I actually knew what the odds were at the time of the race...

Have you checked the Odds site for info on horse racing? There's bound to be some.

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Have you checked the Odds site for info on horse racing? There's bound to be some.

I have not, but I will. Maybe the Wizard will chime in with what he thinks of my strategy.

Actually, do you know where I can find starting odds for past races?

If I could compare those to the final outcomes/odds, then I will be able to simulate my system across multiple tracks and races, 1,000 races, and see how it would have performed!

equibase.com

I can tell you how you would have performed. You're going to be losing about 17%, which is the average takeout/rake.


The odds for each race are listed on the screen next to the number. It's hard to describe without a screenshot, which I just can't figure out a good way to do. But a note is that the odds are changing, and the odds you get when you bet, are not the odds. The odds are set the moment the race goes off, when all betting locks. You can bet a horse at 10-1, and it'll end up going off at 3-1.

Your strategy doesn't work because you're sort of just hedging yourself to no profit. Betting on only longshots (horses 10-1 or more) could be a fun strategy, but you could go a whole day and lose every race.

Now, you were betting on harness racing, where position matters so much more than in thoroughbred racing. Your horse was in the 3rd slot which gives it a huge advantge over that 2nd place horse, who lost lengths getting to the inside. If those positions are swapped, the other horse wins the race for sure.

So, a decent strategy for that would be to look for horses in positions 1-4 that have odds of 10-1 or more, and bet them across the board (win, place, show) or bet them in exacta boxes with favorites.

It's pretty much impossible to win any significant money unless you are betting the exotics - exactas, trifectas, daily doubles, pick-3, etc... But you can still have fun doing what you're doing, it's just not really a good long-term strategy.

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equibase.com

I can tell you how you would have performed. You're going to be losing about 17%, which is the average takeout/rake.


The odds for each race are listed on the screen next to the number. It's hard to describe without a screenshot, which I just can't figure out a good way to do. But a note is that the odds are changing, and the odds you get when you bet, are not the odds. The odds are set the moment the race goes off, when all betting locks. You can bet a horse at 10-1, and it'll end up going off at 3-1.

I see how that works. I was kind of wondering if the odds are ever made current after the book comes out but prior to the start of the race, say a few minutes before the race, or something like that.

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Your strategy doesn't work because you're sort of just hedging yourself to no profit. Betting on only longshots (horses 10-1 or more) could be a fun strategy, but you could go a whole day and lose every race.

I do understand how you could end up losing every single race in a given day, but I would imagine such could be the case by picking only favorites.

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Now, you were betting on harness racing, where position matters so much more than in thoroughbred racing. Your horse was in the 3rd slot which gives it a huge advantge over that 2nd place horse, who lost lengths getting to the inside. If those positions are swapped, the other horse wins the race for sure.

Thank you for that information, that's very good to know for harness racing. That also tells me that half of the bets I made were on long shots in a bad starting position, so I'll have to keep that in mind.

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So, a decent strategy for that would be to look for horses in positions 1-4 that have odds of 10-1 or more, and bet them across the board (win, place, show) or bet them in exacta boxes with favorites.

Do you mean to bet them to win/place/show, or bet them to do each one individually? Can you bet them to win/place/show all at once? By the way, is the starting position not factored into the odds?

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It's pretty much impossible to win any significant money unless you are betting the exotics - exactas, trifectas, daily doubles, pick-3, etc... But you can still have fun doing what you're doing, it's just not really a good long-term strategy.

I would consider my win significant in comparison to my bet. I would be more than happy with that kind of win on a $12 slots bet.

When I say Win-Place-Show, I mean betting the same horse to do all 3. You can do it all at once. That way, if you're 73-1 pick coming out of the 3 hole loses by a 1/2 length, you still get a decent return.

The starting position is factored into the odds by the betting public.

Your win was significant for sure. But it was definitely not typical!

If you would have bet the 4 longest longshots at Tioga that day, you would have won that race and one other at 9-1. That was $72 worth of bets, and you would have needed that 73-1 to come in to make money.

I would have gotten killed!

I understand your point now completely, how do I figure out how much I would have been paid for a horse bet to do all three at once? Can I bet on a horse to only Win or Place, but not show?

I'm also going to look and see how I would have done betting all of the four longest longshots to Win/Place/Show, after you tell me how I go about knowing how that works. Thanks for being patient with me!

I still think I may retire from horse picking. It seems that I am unlikely to ever get that lucky again.

Here is the payoffs from that race:

3-FORWARD BLISS (Stephane Bouchard) 149.00 63.00 18.80
8-BRONSON BLUE CHIP (James Meittinis) 21.20 11.80
1-TWIN B MY WAY (Fernand Paquet Jr) 3.70

Forward Bliss paid $149 to win, $63 to place, $18.80 to show
Bronson Blue Chip paid $21.20 to place, $11.80 to show
Twin B My Way paid $3.70 to show

So if you would have bet $2 to WPS on Forward Bliss, the bet would have cost you $6, and it would have returned $230.
$2 on Bronson Blue Chip WPS would have cost $6, and would have returned $33.
$2 on Twin B My Way would have cost and returned $3.70.

You can bet on win, place, or show, or any combination of the 3.

So if you would have bet WPS on the four longest shots on the board each race, you're betting $24 a race. You would have done pretty bad with that strategy as well.

My harness longshot strategy of picking horses in posts 1-4 WPS with odds of 10-1 or higher wasn't so hot either. But it was just one track one day.

I also had Bronson Blue Chip and Twin B My Way winning!!! It may not have been a great day, but betting Win/Pace/Show, that would have been one killer race for me!!!

Hey there, since I'm in the first half of the story, I should say hi quickly...

CONGRATS ON YOUR WIN AFTER I LEFT! I wish I would have stayed, as I would have bet on a couple horses and done decently...

I'll comment more when I'm not so tired (I just drove 8 hours to Iowa...). The one comment I kind of laughed at was the shy factor, as it kind of depends on my mood and surroundings. Some very good observations though.

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Hey there, since I'm in the first half of the story, I should say hi quickly...

CONGRATS ON YOUR WIN AFTER I LEFT! I wish I would have stayed, as I would have bet on a couple horses and done decently...

I'll comment more when I'm not so tired (I just drove 8 hours to Iowa...). The one comment I kind of laughed at was the shy factor, as it kind of depends on my mood and surroundings. Some very good observations though.

Thank you very much!

I'm glad you had a safe drive, Tiltpoul. In my estimation, you're more than merely in the first half of the story, I don't think I would have played the horses had I not told you that I was going to. Further, I know I wouldn't have bet the way that I did had I not told you I was going to bet that way!

Recalling our discussion about the PM's prior to my WI hit, it's like everything I tell you comes to fruition! I'm going to send you a PM about my plans to hit for over 10 million on the MegaHits Progressive at WI momentarily. (Just Kidding)

Thank you for the compliment on my observations, I'm looking forward to yours. Perception is very much a subjective affair, so it will be interesting to hear your take on the day.

Apparently, my 500 free slot play has come to an end - this week it will only be 75
(I think this is because I chose not to play at all when I was there last week once the storm hit and knocked out the casino's server - which, in turn prevented players getting rated on the system (although they claimed they were still rating people on paper that would then be entered into the system when it came back on line - riiiiiiiiiiiight!)

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Apparently, my 500 free slot play has come to an end - this week it will only be 75
(I think this is because I chose not to play at all when I was there last week once the storm hit and knocked out the casino's server - which, in turn prevented players getting rated on the system (although they claimed they were still rating people on paper that would then be entered into the system when it came back on line - riiiiiiiiiiiight!)

I doubt if the end is permanent provided you give them the same kind of action when the servers are back up. What is your strategy for the $75?

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I doubt if the end is permanent provided you give them the same kind of action when the servers are back up. What is your strategy for the $75?

WoF as usual max credits