AZDuffman
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March 5th, 2012 at 7:07:22 PM permalink
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Hey AZDuffman, does it bother you that Santorum voted to give away free free birth control at the taxpayers' expense?



It doesn't make me happy, though it is nearly impossible to not vote for a bill with at least something you disagree with if you are in the Legislative Branch. (Unless you vote "present" like a certain someone, which means you didn't do anything.)

My "perfect" candidate will never show up. Anyone who has had to hire someone for a job knows you never get all you are looking for. I would never want to be POTUS myself--too much handshaking and photo opps. I'd rarely want to leave the office, I hate to be the center of attention and hate being photographed or video-recorded.
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thecesspit
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March 6th, 2012 at 10:44:22 AM permalink
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The problem we have today is that we do not have "health insurance" what we have is some kind of "health service plan" that calls itself insurance. Similar to if you buy a service plan for an automobile or appliance and some things are covered and some are not but you want some assurance that your payments will be level in good months and bad.

"Insurance" means coverage for the unexpected loss. Now look at some things "health insurance" covers. Birth control; massages; gym memberships; substance abuse; who knows how many more. The poor guy who just wants hospitalization in case of an accident or serious illness is SOL under what Obama proposes. And not just Obama, most states require all this non-insurance "insurance" to some extent or another.

It is as if you walked onto the car lot wanting a Hyundai to get you back and forth to work and the salesman says, "Sory, AZD, but you can't buy one anymore. IO can offer you a nice BMW 3-Series with 100% maintainence for the first 4 years." At the same time, the government says we all have to buy an "approved" car or be sent to prison for not doing so. Then when so many people cannor afford the "approved" car the government says, "well, cars cost too much, so we will take over the car companies and you all now must take the bus."

Give me freedom, not "free stuff."



You'd be happy to hear, that in Socialist BC, my medical plan I have to pay for does not cover massages, birth control, gym membership. I suspect it does help people recovering from substance abuse, but having seen the lower East Side of Vancouver, not very well. Prescription drugs are partly subsidized. This does mean some of the newer drugs are not available. Standards of basic health care are good. Acute health care is not as good as a comparable level in the states, and Chronic problems range from very well done, to abysmal. Chronic is the real doozy in any system... if you have an existing condition, it's hard to get coverage, and may make it hard for you to work, to earn the money to pay the coverage you may need to deal with long term health issues.

My work's extended health plan does cover massages, sports injuries, glasses, hearing, dental, the first $1200 of drugs, 80% of costs of broken bones (plastic casts and crutches are not free under standard health care) and plenty of other useful and less useful things (depending on your point of view). I can opt out of it if I so choose, but I'm happy enough my dental and optical are sorted, plus I can avail myself of physio work if needed when I inevitably damage myself while running.

It's all why I think the US health care system is crazy messed up, and I'm tending to view that Obama-care has been so badly compromised (by Obama himself as well as others) it's an even worse mess than your current system. Which still manages to deliver very high standards of care in a lot of cases (cancer surivival rates, for instance, are about 3-4% better than in the Great White North, though that gap has closed in the last decade).
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AZDuffman
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March 6th, 2012 at 12:12:44 PM permalink
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It's all why I think the US health care system is crazy messed up, and I'm tending to view that Obama-care has been so badly compromised (by Obama himself as well as others) it's an even worse mess than your current system. Which still manages to deliver very high standards of care in a lot of cases (cancer surivival rates, for instance, are about 3-4% better than in the Great White North, though that gap has closed in the last decade).



It is "messed up" here because the people who consume the service are rarely the ones paying for it.

Lets imagine a Vegas example. Suppose my employer sends me on a business trip to Vegas and tells me I have $40 to use for food per day. Chop it however I like it is $40. So I might have coffee and a donut for breakfast and hit the buffet at Bellagio for dinner. Or I might just go to the coffee shop and have three normal meals. Or I might eat very light the first two days then hit whatever the nicest steakhouse Wynn has to offer. The latter might require me to add something from my own kick, which I might very well do since I enjoy a really good steak dinner.

Now imagine my employer says I have a $15 per day "food deductible" and after that they will cover the difference up to a pre-determined amount per day, say $100. Under this plan I will have a Bellagio Buffet for dinner and breakfast, then go to Wynn for my steak dinner, and load up all around. I "buy" the food buy my employer pays for it, excepting the deductible.

IOW, the consumer has zero incentive to shop at all. If we enforced some kind of transparancy in pricing, say require providers to put the cost what constitutes 80% of procedures online, people might actually care about the difference. Since most medical care is nonemergency this would work out well with a medical savings account.
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YoDiceRoll11
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March 8th, 2012 at 10:50:38 PM permalink
I will preface my comment with this: tl;dr

Just to give some insight, Planned Parenthood and other organizations provide free or discounted birth control to many women in many different regions in our country. We don't need taxpayer money doing something that is already handled by private companies.
thecesspit
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March 13th, 2012 at 8:24:32 PM permalink
Current standings according to : http://www.politico.com/2012-election/delegate-tracker/

Romney - 447
Santorum - 233
Gringrich - 130
Paul - 46
Huntsmann - 2
Unallocated - 118

Gringrich getting being Santorum would appear to be the best way the right of party could compete against the left of the party right now. But I don't know if the remaining states are more Newt than Rick.

Mississippi seems to have been a tie for all purposes apart from the shouting, with 10 delegates each to the three front runners, and 10 Unallocated. How those filter out, I don't know.

Romney isn't out of it yet, and it could yet require some jockeying with Mitt by one of the two other runners at the end to give them a clean acclimation at the RNC.
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WongBo
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March 13th, 2012 at 8:30:41 PM permalink
I know the pope has a real hard on to complete his takeover of the supreme court...six on only three to go....
President Rick could be just the ticket
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pacomartin
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March 13th, 2012 at 9:45:48 PM permalink
Quote: Mitt Romney effectively rules out Rick Santorum as running mate

If Mitt Romney wins the Republican presidential nomination, he'll have many options for a running mate. His current rival, Rick Santorum, probably won't be one of them. Romney said as much Monday when Neil Cavuto asked him on Fox Business if he would choose a candidate to his right in order to win the election. "Well that would preclude, of course, Rick Santorum," Romney said. "Because, I mean, look at his record. I find it interesting that he continues to describe himself as the real conservative. This is the guy who voted against the right to work, this is the guy who voted to fund Planned Parenthood, this is the person who voted to raise the debt ceiling five times. ... It's my way of saying that Rick Santorum is not a person who is an economic conservative, to my right. I'm saying I'm a conservative, I give him credit for being a conservative, but not a fiscal conservative. His record does not suggest he's got the fiscal conservative chops that I have."



I hope that Ron Paul does the decent thing and quits once he is incapable of winning. I also hope that Gingrich will quit before the big set of primaries on 6 June. I think they should give someone a chance at the majority.
WongBo
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March 14th, 2012 at 5:32:28 AM permalink
Though I do not think Obama has been a particularly great president, I think he has been far better than the worst president ever, George W Bush
I think it is great that the republicans can't come to a consensus, that they think they need to run as far to the right
As possible exposes how out of touch with the mainstream they really are.
Social conservatism is a thinly veiled agenda of divisiveness, bigotry, narrow mindedness and hatred.
I sincerely hope that it costs them the election.
I don't necessarily think Obama has earned the right to be re elected, but he is far more attractive than any of the republican buffoons
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EvenBob
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March 14th, 2012 at 8:30:24 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo


Social conservatism is a thinly veiled agenda of divisiveness, bigotry, narrow mindedness and hatred.



Do you prefer the grape or the cherry Kool Aid? Are
you reading right from the Dem talking points list or
do you have it memorized?
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WongBo
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March 14th, 2012 at 9:12:50 AM permalink
I don't need anyone else to tell me about it.
I know from first hand experience with assholes like Rick Santorum who was my senator when I lived in PA.
Anti woman, anti gay, anti immigrant, anti minority,
Pro life, pro gun, pro death penalty....most of the civilized world rejects those viewpoints
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.

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