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bigfoot66
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August 30th, 2012 at 10:29:14 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Never gonna happen in a Christian country. Dream on.




Drugs were legal in this country for a longer period of time than they have been illegal.
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24Bingo
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August 31st, 2012 at 1:10:47 PM permalink
And it was a secular country longer than it's been a Christian one.
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buzzpaff
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August 31st, 2012 at 9:00:47 PM permalink
If you think drug use is a victimless crime, you are a MORON !
SOOPOO
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September 1st, 2012 at 5:10:02 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

If you think drug use is a victimless crime, you are a MORON !



Buzz- because some activity may have 'victims' is not necessarily a reason to make it a crime. If we outlawed cars there would be TENS OF THOUSANDS fewer deaths every year in our country. Same can be said for alcohol. And cigarettes. How about diving boards in swimming pools? How about fireworks? Need I mention guns?

Drugs, like the above examples, requires INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY. If someone using drugs drives a car, treat him the same as the person driving a car under the influence of alcohol. If someone using drugs commits an assault, there are laws to punish that person, just like the person who commits an assault sober.

If drug use and production was legal in Mexico, how many fewer beheadings would there be? Some argue that keeping drugs illegal LEADS to crime.
98Clubs
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September 1st, 2012 at 10:58:35 AM permalink
Many drugs are legal with a prescription. many post-op drugs are not, crack is not legal, pot has been "decriminalized". So I guess the OP is about legalizing cocaine and crack. Analogs of cocaine are legal with a prescription. No I don't think smokin crack should be legal. Thats the bottom line of the OP... really quite an uninformed Question.
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Boney526
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September 1st, 2012 at 11:41:46 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Buzz- because some activity may have 'victims' is not necessarily a reason to make it a crime. If we outlawed cars there would be TENS OF THOUSANDS fewer deaths every year in our country. Same can be said for alcohol. And cigarettes. How about diving boards in swimming pools? How about fireworks? Need I mention guns?

Drugs, like the above examples, requires INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY. If someone using drugs drives a car, treat him the same as the person driving a car under the influence of alcohol. If someone using drugs commits an assault, there are laws to punish that person, just like the person who commits an assault sober.

If drug use and production was legal in Mexico, how many fewer beheadings would there be? Some argue that keeping drugs illegal LEADS to crime.



Didn't you know that using logic in a debate about drug prohibition isn't allowed?

A "legitimate" argument in this type of debate is "you're an idiot if you believe that." At least, that seems more sense to people than actually taking a second to look at facts (like statistics on drug use and danger in countries that have legalized drugs) or philosophy (like that IMO, locking people up or punishing them them through law for drug use is morally disgusting)
98Clubs
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September 2nd, 2012 at 2:47:12 AM permalink
Which one of those items mentioned have addictive qualities SOOPOO? Alcohol and Nicotine yes. Caffein yes. Guns, cars, fireworks no.
Drugs by your appararent definnition have an addictive quality that causes repeated usage, else a withdrawl stage ensues. Great business model.
So the dispensary (Pharmacy, drug-dealer, etc) is in control of the person. The person has lost control, and might do anything to get the drug.
Wide-spread availibility is the answer? So how does an improverished drug-user get more drug without financial rescource?
Geez, I guess we have to legalize other things to make sure these impoverished drug-users don't turn criminal.
I'll even go as far to say that the moral domino effect occurs, and that justice served is not favored when dispensed by Legal authority, but rather by gang justice.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
buzzpaff
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September 8th, 2012 at 8:14:14 PM permalink
Society will spend dollars to imprison drug users and pennies for rehabilitation.

Am I the only one who has a problem with that ?
JohnnyQ
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September 9th, 2012 at 5:28:59 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

If you think drug use is a victimless crime, you are a MORON !



Haven't we all also heard the argument that "We shouldn't allow any CASINOS
here because it will ruin an addictive gambler's life" ?

I am just saying that the ldrug aws / enforcement that are currently in effect are what is
RUINING ( and actually ENDING ) many lives. It is time to take a good hard LOGICAL
look at things. Certainly the horrific crimes committed in Mexico are due to the
huge demand for illegal drugs up here.
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September 9th, 2012 at 6:14:27 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

If you think drug use is a victimless crime, you are a MORON !



If a guy grows marijuana in his backyard and smokes it in his own home, it's definitely a crime. But I can't figure out who the victim is.

Maybe the shareholders of Anheiser-Busch are the victims because they didn't get his money?

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