HeySlick
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May 21st, 2016 at 10:45:55 AM permalink
If this question was asked in another country e.g. America -- personally I wouldn't put myself into any situation where to many black people were present --- hateful angry Blacks are prone to violence whenever/ OR whatever situation they dominate. IMO President Obama has caused many of the racial problems in America to worsen since he was elected -- I am sick and tired of hearing about how racist America is and, white people are to blame for black peoples problems on and on and on. If Black Lives really mattered why don't they start addressing the real problems within their ranks? IMO to many black people destroy their own communities and they refuse to address that issue -- YEAH!! just blame others and ignore the real reasons for said destruction.
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May 21st, 2016 at 1:28:24 PM permalink
Quote: HeySlick

If this question was asked in another country e.g. America -- personally I wouldn't put myself into any situation where to many black people were present --- hateful angry Blacks are prone to violence whenever/ OR whatever situation they dominate. IMO President Obama has caused many of the racial problems in America to worsen since he was elected -- I am sick and tired of hearing about how racist America is and, white people are to blame for black peoples problems on and on and on. If Black Lives really mattered why don't they start addressing the real problems within their ranks? IMO to many black people destroy their own communities and they refuse to address that issue -- YEAH!! just blame others and ignore the real reasons for said destruction.



So somehow reviving a 5 year old thread for the purpose of demonstrating your political extremism is a necessity? Really? What part of your rant doesn't just scream "racist "?

Gee , the good Ole days on here, when people had ugly conversations like this. What a pity you missed being a member then.

Some facts to back up your assertion that it's OBAMA who's caused relations to worsen, and not resentful white racist backlash (which is what I see), might be useful.
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HeySlick
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May 21st, 2016 at 3:05:07 PM permalink
TO the poster above


So bringing out another version of 'Roots' is going to heal/help -- how many more generations of angry Africans is it going to take before the entire system breaks -- IMO to many AA's despise and hate anyone who doesn't agree with their destructive agenda --- seriously what do SOME African Americans do to make America a better place to live? nothing but complain and snivel about what's owed to them. IMO if white people left America, Black people would destroy America in 10 years or less - FYI try visiting any totally black community within America and see how corrupt and destructive those communities are -- I'm sick and tired of hearing how racist America is and blacks can't succeed because of the racist system ---- BS!!! GO BACK TO AFRICA THEN!!
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May 21st, 2016 at 3:08:03 PM permalink
Instead of long angry rants, you could have simply answered the question of the thread "yes" and made the same point with less effort

And more probably would be in Africa as you wish if their ancestors hadn't, you know, been brought here and enslaved or something like that
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May 21st, 2016 at 3:15:59 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

So somehow reviving a 5 year old thread for the purpose of demonstrating your political extremism is a necessity? Really? What part of your rant doesn't just scream "racist "?

Gee , the good Ole days on here, when people had ugly conversations like this. What a pity you missed being a member then.

Some facts to back up your assertion that it's OBAMA who's caused relations to worsen, and not resentful white racist backlash (which is what I see), might be useful.







How would he pull it off? I wondered.

How would Barack explain to his press groupies why he sat silent in a pew for 20 years as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered racist rants against white America for our maligning of Fidel and Gadhafi, and inventing AIDS to infect and kill black people?

How would he justify not walking out as Wright spewed his venom about ?the U.S. of K.K.K. America,? and howled, ?God damn America!?

My hunch was right. Barack would turn the tables.

Yes, Barack agreed, Wright?s statements were ?controversial,? and ?divisive,? and ?racially charged,? reflecting a ?distorted view of America.?

But we must understand the man in full and the black experience out of which the Rev. Wright came: 350 years of slavery and segregation.

Barack then listed black grievances and informed us what white America must do to close the racial divide and heal the country.

The ?white community,? said Barack, must start ?acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination ? and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past ? are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ? .?

And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?

The ?white community? must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with ?ladders of opportunity? that were ?unavailable? to Barack?s and the Rev. Wright?s generations.

What is wrong with Barack?s prognosis and Barack?s cure?

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, ?everybody but the rioters themselves.?

Was ?white racism? really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said ? that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ?60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks ? with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas ? to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new ?ladders of opportunity? for blacks
.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for ?deserving? white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America?s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before. about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars edited to fix the mess you made of quoting me.
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May 21st, 2016 at 3:36:59 PM permalink
Quote: ]Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse. [/q



If you can back up the numbers you may have something.

$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
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May 21st, 2016 at 4:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Instead of long angry rants, you could have simply answered the question of the thread "yes" and made the same point with less effort

And more probably would be in Africa as you wish if their ancestors hadn't, you know, been brought here and enslaved or something like that



AFAIK, the slaves were sold by the Africans to the white people.
HeySlick
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May 21st, 2016 at 4:23:11 PM permalink
Quote: RS

AFAIK, the slaves were sold by the Africans to the white people.





Of course denial and actual facts mean nothing to Most African Americans --- America is the land of opportunity and millions upon millions of African Americans have succeeded in spite of other AA's negativity and resentment. I 'm just tired of the same OLD excuses over and over.
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May 21st, 2016 at 4:40:51 PM permalink
Quote: RS

AFAIK, the slaves were sold by the Africans to the white people.



Point? So they weren't brought over?
HeySlick
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May 21st, 2016 at 4:46:48 PM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

If you can back up the numbers you may have something.





Here's some real numbers from the DOJ


http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

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