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johnnyy
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November 23rd, 2020 at 8:33:33 AM permalink
I believe in luck too
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December 12th, 2020 at 2:21:19 PM permalink
I definitely believe that there is such a thing as luck. But I also believe you can create your own luck through the Law of Attraction as well as through the teachings of people like Napolean Hill.
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January 1st, 2021 at 11:25:23 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Do you believe luck is a force in the universe, or is it just a word we use to describe events that go or don't go our way. Not a bad question, you'd be surprised at the number of people who've never contemplated this before.



I'm going to tell everyone what the facts are about luck only because I want to help the WoV members. Luck 100% exists & there is no denying this, this is a fact. Due to the Heidelberg uncertainty principle, you are lucky to even exist at all. I cringe when I hear professional poker players mention that there is no luck in poker because all you need to do is look at Archie Karas as an example. Yes, the law of averages states that the more games played the more likely events are to even out. But the reality is there are professional poker players who will receive a significant amount more coolers throughout their lifetime & only if you look at the average lifetime of every player would the probability of every outcome start to come close to evening out the expected results. In game design, we classify the amount of luck in a game as equal to the amount of impact that external outcomes affect game outcomes.

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January 1st, 2021 at 11:36:18 PM permalink
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Luck is a word, but a good word. Technically there may not be such a thing as randomness either. That's just theoretical, involves leaving the universe to be able to understand the entire universe you left, as it can't be done from within. I sound like a nut, the possibilities are endless or impossible. Love this stuff, hologram universe, simulation universe, etc., etc. If this is not reality, where is reality, etc. Elan Musk talks like me all the time. I find it funny.



I believe you're correct but nobody knows for sure. When we use the definition of random we are merely talking about what is random from the perspective of the person perceiving the information. I believe it's possible to reconstruct all lost information, like pitting together pieces of the past to even reconstruct all the information of a big bang.
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January 1st, 2021 at 11:44:58 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Why can't you just say luck=good coincidence, so therefore luck exists? I understand luck is a description, not a determination, but just a word.

Luck didn't take a touchdown away from Pittsburgh and didn't make Big Ben throw an interception, but the Patriots seemed lucky to beat Pittsburgh.

Do I not understand the debate? Or is there not a debate and is there just a disagreement about what the word means?



The problem is your definition of luck. If you're claiming that someone else who lost their wallet wouldn't have gotten it back if they weren't "naturally" lucky, then I would also completely agree with you. But if you're claiming that he wasn't lucky because it so happened to be that guy (for whatever reason who was there to turn it in) over some other person that steals the wallet, I'm going to say you're wrong & he was lucky. Luck is about external forces, not some internal force that you possess that will allow you to get lucky in any situation. That's something pulled straight from Hollywood.
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January 4th, 2021 at 8:21:44 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

I'm going to tell everyone what the facts are about luck only because I want to help the WoV members. Luck 100% exists & there is no denying this, this is a fact. Due to the Heidelberg uncertainty principle, you are lucky to even exist at all. I cringe when I hear professional poker players mention that there is no luck in poker because all you need to do is look at Archie Karas as an example. Yes, the law of averages states that the more games played the more likely events are to even out. But the reality is there are professional poker players who will receive a significant amount more coolers throughout their lifetime & only if you look at the average lifetime of every player would the probability of every outcome start to come close to evening out the expected results. In game design, we classify the amount of luck in a game as equal to the amount of impact that external outcomes affect game outcomes.

A thank you would be nice ;)



Something about the renaming of roses.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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January 4th, 2021 at 12:10:40 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Something about the renaming of roses.



Every rose has its thornes?
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January 4th, 2021 at 1:10:53 PM permalink
Luck is simply variance taken personally.
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January 27th, 2021 at 3:20:00 AM permalink
Actually, I do.I can easily say that I'm a lucky person(at least that I have an opportunity to be healthy and to type this message from my PC).It's not a mistake to believe in luck but it's a huge mistake to always hope at luck.And you should always remember that the luckiest one is the strongest one :D
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July 23rd, 2021 at 4:13:11 AM permalink
Of course I believe I found a clover leaf yesterday
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July 30th, 2021 at 10:43:24 AM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Anyone who doesn't believe in luck has never been in combat where something just misses you but for an inch or two.

Case closed.


Amen. The perception of luck, I believe, is personal. "Picking" the right parents. Great genetics and good health in spite of our personal lifestyles. Intellect and one's ability to adapt, learn, and grow. "The luck of the draw"; being born in the USA and much of the our circumstances we take for granted. "Close calls" that avoided tragedy. Is it "luck," "fate," or "faith"? You choose; there is no right answer.

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September 8th, 2021 at 12:56:27 PM permalink
I believe in luck and consider myself lucky ... Also believe that luck is an opportunity to use the chance of fate
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September 24th, 2021 at 5:17:40 PM permalink
My Uncle George was lucky in gene pool and in life. Lived to be 100. Was a fireman and got promoted to Lt. this was in 1957 I think. Anyway first day in new firehouse in captain,s office. Another Captain came in and said to 1st Captain “ I saved 2 ticket for my church drawing for you” Ist Captain say I will take one and you will take one , won’t you George . ? That is how my Uncle George won a 1957 Plymouth.
Years later George was in Zizzimos bar, they had a $100 a square Super Bowl score lottery. A guy asked George to go partners with him. George walked home and git $50 from Aunt Eve. But when he got the guy had got another partner. So George walks home and gets another $50 from Aunt Eve. Buys his own square, gets 0/0 wins 3 quarters $7500. He and Aunt Eve go to Hawaii.
I see George on bus one day. Tells me he has been betting 729, date numbers went legal in state and has not hit yet over 2 years, even had my sister play for him when he is out of town or on vacation. I play it for a month and hit box for $80. Put $10 to it . Tell wife gonna bet with bookie at work for a month. He pays 650 versus state 500. Three weeks later 729 for $1950.
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September 30th, 2021 at 7:50:34 AM permalink
Happiness is a word, but a great word, technically there may not be the kind of detail like randomness that is actually theoretical can carry. from within. I sound crazy, the possibilities are limitless or impossible. I love these things, the hologram universe, the simulation universe, etc. etc.If that's not the reality then where is the reality etc.
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October 1st, 2021 at 4:14:22 PM permalink
Luck definitely had a good run with the Colts He knew to get out when he did after amassing a fortune. :-)
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November 5th, 2021 at 1:21:30 AM permalink
In fact, I probably wouldn't believe in luck if I wasn't so lucky. Initially I thought that everyone was lucky, but not me, but having lived to my age, and remembering all life situations, I can say with certainty, luck exists. But it is not as global as you can imagine. I would also add, thoughts are material, if you think about one thing all the time, you will have it come true, it may be a year later, but it will. I don't know how it works, I think we program our brain for this goal and go to it without noticing....
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November 9th, 2021 at 7:56:03 AM permalink
Dunno what to say, I do and I don't. There were events in my life that I believe was pure luck but were they?
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November 10th, 2021 at 1:15:40 AM permalink
You misled yourself, of course there were, you just might have thought it was your ability to get out of such situations, but I don't think so, there are more often than not, fortunate moments.
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January 10th, 2022 at 7:57:30 AM permalink
i believe in bad luck so i guess so but if you think of it statistically bad luck is 99% and good luck is 1% so maybe i dont...
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November 1st, 2022 at 10:57:45 AM permalink
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i believe in bad luck so i guess so but if you think of it statistically bad luck is 99% and good luck is 1% so maybe i dont...
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me too
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January 3rd, 2023 at 3:50:25 AM permalink
Maybe i do believe, though i prefer to rely on my skill as you know if we are talking about luck, it is kinda thing when people just let go any responsibillity for their actions. Me, i play a lot of in best blockchain games and first thing for me is calculate everything, my strategy in the game, my tactics and future income of course, so this for is like a job where there is no place for luck. Just my skill. This is all that simple
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February 14th, 2023 at 4:27:08 AM permalink
Quote: IgorSomalia

Maybe i do believe, though i prefer to rely on my skill


Same here, although sometimes it's really hard not to believe in luck. Someone can spin 10 times and they're always winning (or losing).
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February 15th, 2023 at 9:27:50 AM permalink
Quote: IgorSomalia

Maybe i do believe, though i prefer to rely on my skilllink to original post



I always say: Luck can always beat skill...

That said, no, I don't believe in luck as in some trait or thing that can predict future outcomes.

However, it is perfectly adequate word/concept to describe past outcomes.

As such, "You were lucky" is very reasonable to say. "You are lucky" is borderline, though it's fine if it really refers to a recent streak of lucky events (i.e. past events).

However, the concept that someone is lucky as a prediction of future events is nonsense.
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April 10th, 2023 at 3:01:15 AM permalink
Yes I do believe in Luck when I was franchising my business in United states many people told me that you should not do that it will effect your brand but I left it on my luck and now my franchises are running very well.
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November 1st, 2023 at 12:43:50 PM permalink
Depends on if the universe is deterministic or random quantum chaos. If its deterministic, then no luck doesn't happen. If atoms and sub atom particles can randomly with no discernable tool switch from one outcome to a completely different random outcome, then luck does exist and whatever pocket of variance you're in is how lucky/unlucky you are.
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November 16th, 2023 at 9:42:05 PM permalink
I do believe in luck, we all get lucky at some point its just that life should be balanced so we tend to have those unlucky moments. There are two sides to everything, just like winning and losing, victory and defeat etc. Its what keeps us balanced so we try to work harder for everything. This is a nice thread, inspiring to know other people's opinions. :)
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March 18th, 2024 at 9:11:29 PM permalink
Yes. I believe in luck. It is strange how luck plays an important role in our lives. If you have good luck, despite all the odds, you will win the game. If bad, then no matter how much prepared you are, you will lose. The casino games are luck based. But there are some that requires your skill as well. One such game is Khelosports. You need to be good in the games. This will give you an extra edge in winning more money. If anybody is looking out for online casino with lots of games do check out Khelosports.
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May 30th, 2024 at 3:53:01 AM permalink
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June 11th, 2024 at 3:36:44 AM permalink
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Quote: EvenBob

Do you believe luck is a force in the universe, or is it just a word we use to describe events that go or don't go our way. Not a bad question, you'd be surprised at the number of people who've never contemplated this before.



I'm going to tell everyone what the facts are about luck only because I want to help the WoV members. Luck 100% exists & there is no denying this, this is a fact. Due to the Heidelberg uncertainty principle, you are lucky to even exist at all. I cringe when I hear professional poker players mention that there is no luck in poker because all you need to do is look at Archie Karas as an example. Yes, the law of averages states that the more games played the more likely events are to even out. But the reality is there are professional poker players who will receive a significant amount more coolers throughout their lifetime & only if you look at the average lifetime of every player would the probability of every outcome start to come close to evening out the expected results. In game design, we classify the amount of luck in a game as equal to the amount of impact that external outcomes affect game outcomes. iq test

A thank you would be nice ;)
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Your classification of the amount of luck in a game based on the impact of external outcomes is a useful framework. This aligns with the general understanding that games with higher degrees of randomness and external factors tend to have a greater luck component.
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June 13th, 2024 at 5:49:30 PM permalink
Is it luck that this thread has been bumped almost every year since it was started in 2010? (And never by the OP, I might add!)
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June 15th, 2024 at 1:27:01 AM permalink
He was a smart quarterback and knew the right time to bow out from the colts before getting hurt. LUCK
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