Quote: EvenBobDo you believe luck is a force in the universe, or is it just a word we use to describe events that go or don't go our way. Not a bad question, you'd be surprised at the number of people who've never contemplated this before.
I'm going to tell everyone what the facts are about luck only because I want to help the WoV members. Luck 100% exists & there is no denying this, this is a fact. Due to the Heidelberg uncertainty principle, you are lucky to even exist at all. I cringe when I hear professional poker players mention that there is no luck in poker because all you need to do is look at Archie Karas as an example. Yes, the law of averages states that the more games played the more likely events are to even out. But the reality is there are professional poker players who will receive a significant amount more coolers throughout their lifetime & only if you look at the average lifetime of every player would the probability of every outcome start to come close to evening out the expected results. In game design, we classify the amount of luck in a game as equal to the amount of impact that external outcomes affect game outcomes.
A thank you would be nice ;)
Quote: onenickelmiracleLuck is a word, but a good word. Technically there may not be such a thing as randomness either. That's just theoretical, involves leaving the universe to be able to understand the entire universe you left, as it can't be done from within. I sound like a nut, the possibilities are endless or impossible. Love this stuff, hologram universe, simulation universe, etc., etc. If this is not reality, where is reality, etc. Elan Musk talks like me all the time. I find it funny.
I believe you're correct but nobody knows for sure. When we use the definition of random we are merely talking about what is random from the perspective of the person perceiving the information. I believe it's possible to reconstruct all lost information, like pitting together pieces of the past to even reconstruct all the information of a big bang.
Quote: onenickelmiracleWhy can't you just say luck=good coincidence, so therefore luck exists? I understand luck is a description, not a determination, but just a word.
Luck didn't take a touchdown away from Pittsburgh and didn't make Big Ben throw an interception, but the Patriots seemed lucky to beat Pittsburgh.
Do I not understand the debate? Or is there not a debate and is there just a disagreement about what the word means?
The problem is your definition of luck. If you're claiming that someone else who lost their wallet wouldn't have gotten it back if they weren't "naturally" lucky, then I would also completely agree with you. But if you're claiming that he wasn't lucky because it so happened to be that guy (for whatever reason who was there to turn it in) over some other person that steals the wallet, I'm going to say you're wrong & he was lucky. Luck is about external forces, not some internal force that you possess that will allow you to get lucky in any situation. That's something pulled straight from Hollywood.
Quote: USpapergamesI'm going to tell everyone what the facts are about luck only because I want to help the WoV members. Luck 100% exists & there is no denying this, this is a fact. Due to the Heidelberg uncertainty principle, you are lucky to even exist at all. I cringe when I hear professional poker players mention that there is no luck in poker because all you need to do is look at Archie Karas as an example. Yes, the law of averages states that the more games played the more likely events are to even out. But the reality is there are professional poker players who will receive a significant amount more coolers throughout their lifetime & only if you look at the average lifetime of every player would the probability of every outcome start to come close to evening out the expected results. In game design, we classify the amount of luck in a game as equal to the amount of impact that external outcomes affect game outcomes.
A thank you would be nice ;)
Something about the renaming of roses.
Quote: Mission146Something about the renaming of roses.
Every rose has its thornes?
Quote: LovecompsAnyone who doesn't believe in luck has never been in combat where something just misses you but for an inch or two.
Case closed.
Amen. The perception of luck, I believe, is personal. "Picking" the right parents. Great genetics and good health in spite of our personal lifestyles. Intellect and one's ability to adapt, learn, and grow. "The luck of the draw"; being born in the USA and much of the our circumstances we take for granted. "Close calls" that avoided tragedy. Is it "luck," "fate," or "faith"? You choose; there is no right answer.
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Years later George was in Zizzimos bar, they had a $100 a square Super Bowl score lottery. A guy asked George to go partners with him. George walked home and git $50 from Aunt Eve. But when he got the guy had got another partner. So George walks home and gets another $50 from Aunt Eve. Buys his own square, gets 0/0 wins 3 quarters $7500. He and Aunt Eve go to Hawaii.
I see George on bus one day. Tells me he has been betting 729, date numbers went legal in state and has not hit yet over 2 years, even had my sister play for him when he is out of town or on vacation. I play it for a month and hit box for $80. Put $10 to it . Tell wife gonna bet with bookie at work for a month. He pays 650 versus state 500. Three weeks later 729 for $1950.
Quote: Haloreecei believe in bad luck so i guess so but if you think of it statistically bad luck is 99% and good luck is 1% so maybe i dont...
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me too
Quote: IgorSomaliaMaybe i do believe, though i prefer to rely on my skill
Same here, although sometimes it's really hard not to believe in luck. Someone can spin 10 times and they're always winning (or losing).
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I always say: Luck can always beat skill...
That said, no, I don't believe in luck as in some trait or thing that can predict future outcomes.
However, it is perfectly adequate word/concept to describe past outcomes.
As such, "You were lucky" is very reasonable to say. "You are lucky" is borderline, though it's fine if it really refers to a recent streak of lucky events (i.e. past events).
However, the concept that someone is lucky as a prediction of future events is nonsense.
Quote: USpapergamesQuote: EvenBobDo you believe luck is a force in the universe, or is it just a word we use to describe events that go or don't go our way. Not a bad question, you'd be surprised at the number of people who've never contemplated this before.
I'm going to tell everyone what the facts are about luck only because I want to help the WoV members. Luck 100% exists & there is no denying this, this is a fact. Due to the Heidelberg uncertainty principle, you are lucky to even exist at all. I cringe when I hear professional poker players mention that there is no luck in poker because all you need to do is look at Archie Karas as an example. Yes, the law of averages states that the more games played the more likely events are to even out. But the reality is there are professional poker players who will receive a significant amount more coolers throughout their lifetime & only if you look at the average lifetime of every player would the probability of every outcome start to come close to evening out the expected results. In game design, we classify the amount of luck in a game as equal to the amount of impact that external outcomes affect game outcomes. iq test
A thank you would be nice ;)
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Your classification of the amount of luck in a game based on the impact of external outcomes is a useful framework. This aligns with the general understanding that games with higher degrees of randomness and external factors tend to have a greater luck component.