Croupier
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March 1st, 2010 at 1:43:48 PM permalink
Having looked through a number of threads and posts on this site, I have noticed an increasing trend towards negative comments on a number of topics.

Is this a reflection on the current attitude towards Vegas itself, and an expression of the frustration felt by many members at lousy rules and harrah's expasion amongst other things?

Is this a reflection on the members themselves? Are we becoming more hostile towards each other?

Or are we sharing a simultanious collective bad mood?

Or maybe I'm reading too deep into things and am personally over sensitive to subtexts that are figments of my imagination. Or maybe I'm just reading the wrong threads.

What do you think?
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AZDuffman
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March 1st, 2010 at 1:54:33 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

Having looked through a number of threads and posts on this site, I have noticed an increasing trend towards negative comments on a number of topics.

Is this a reflection on the current attitude towards Vegas itself, and an expression of the frustration felt by many members at lousy rules and harrah's expasion amongst other things?

Is this a reflection on the members themselves? Are we becoming more hostile towards each other?

Or are we sharing a simultanious collective bad mood?

Or maybe I'm reading too deep into things and am personally over sensitive to subtexts that are figments of my imagination.

What do you think?



I haven't noticed the negativity myself. Maybe because this site attracts advantage players who know the odds are usually stacked against us we will always have a risk-management persona?
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dwheatley
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March 1st, 2010 at 2:32:48 PM permalink
My theory: Confirmation Bias.
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odiousgambit
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March 1st, 2010 at 2:54:15 PM permalink
If you mean internet demeanor that is less than stellar at times, this site has seemed to me to have avoided most of the problems that potentially could beset it.

There's certainly a whole new language that has sprung up to describe what the worst sites experience: Troll, Astroturfer, Gadfly, Griefer, Heckler, Hit-and-run poster, Ostracizer, Sockpuppeter, to name a few.

I wasn't familiar with all these terms necessarily, see LINK
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wildqat
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March 1st, 2010 at 3:35:30 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

Has this forum become too negative?


No.
DorothyGale
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March 1st, 2010 at 4:32:16 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

Having looked through a number of threads and posts on this site, I have noticed an increasing trend towards negative comments on a number of topics.


My word -- haven't you ever been on a forum that's fully ripened before? It always starts with idiots who say idiotic things and try and defend them even though they're idiots (a couple recent threads here are point on, no doubt the seeds for the rest of the process). Then come the trolls who say idiotic things just to annoy people who can't stand idiots. Then come the flames -- nice and toasty roasty -- usually flaming the trolls who the flamers mistake for the idiots -- that's when the fun starts. It's the legal threats that really get it going big time, they're mainly serious and from the idiots, though trolls toss them in for good fun. Throw in a couple of "Hitlers" and you've got yourself one fine forum.

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boymimbo
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March 1st, 2010 at 5:10:09 PM permalink
I've only seen a couple of "nastys" and I've been on the end (kicking or receiving) of a couple of them. It's because I don't understand where people actually think that they can beat the odds, or beat down pure math with anecdotes and systems. Both sevenshooter (who is probably a successful controlled shooter but isn't as successful as he thinks he is, but wants people to sign up for his courses) and tuttigym (who really doesn't understand what odds and probability mean, but is trying to market a book on how to beat craps anyway) are probably well meaning, but seemingly stubborn folk. I've got nothing against them -- I would love to hang out at the River Rock next time I'm in Richmond and see what seven's got, and I would like to see tutti have some success at his system.

However, I am equally stubborn in the opposite direction: the casino has you pretty much beat when you walk in the door. There are a few long-termed exceptions: good controlled shooting, undetected card-counting, a positive expectation VP machine, and some good sports betting. And there are a few short-term exceptions too like the patron who will let you buy a double or will let you buy don't pass odds, or the casino with a short-term giveaway or jackpot that makes things favorable for the player. You can't win at craps by using a betting system, period.
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darrenfromindy
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March 1st, 2010 at 5:14:04 PM permalink
I don't think it's necessarily negative. The topic of "dice setting" is a very polarizing issue and was the most controversial thread on this forum. Also blackjack advantage players (as smart as they may be) have never been known for their great social skills. That (in addition to their bet spreads) is often what brings them unwanted attention lol. I know that's stereotyping, but I find that to be true. I'm glad the advantage players post here, though.
jpprovance
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March 1st, 2010 at 5:20:26 PM permalink
i did make an unnecesary flame thread toward S__________R. web forums are usually so bad and im glad this one isnt.i dont want this forum to turn into 4chan. sorry to those who clicked on the thread. i will not post such materials even if i think the person is an...
DJTeddyBear
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March 1st, 2010 at 6:47:52 PM permalink
Quote: DorothyGale

My word -- haven't you ever been on a forum that's fully ripened before? It always starts with idiots who say idiotic things and try and defend them even though they're idiots (a couple recent threads here are point on, no doubt the seeds for the rest of the process). Then come the trolls who say idiotic things just to annoy people who can't stand idiots. Then come the flames -- nice and toasty roasty -- usually flaming the trolls who the flamers mistake for the idiots -- that's when the fun starts. It's the legal threats that really get it going big time, they're mainly serious and from the idiots, though trolls toss them in for good fun. Throw in a couple of "Hitlers" and you've got yourself one fine forum.

Holy crap! That's some funny / dead on observations there Dorothy!

But back to the original question: No. There's not too much negativity on the board. Oh, sure, there's PLENTY in a couple threads. But those threads / posters kinda deserved it.
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