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October 17th, 2016 at 2:34:21 PM permalink
In doing my scouting for my Vegas survey I noticed a bank of $0.25 video poker machines right at the Cromwell entrance with the following games and pay tables.

Game Pay Table Return
Jacks or better 9,6 99.54%
Bonus poker 8,5 99.17%
Double bonus 9,7,5 99.11%
Deuces wild 25,16,10 99.73%
Joker poker -- kings 940,18,7 99.29%
Triple double bonus 9,7 99.58%
Deuces wild bonus poker 25,9,4,4,3 99.45%
Deuces and joker wild 25,12,9,6 99.07%


As far as I know, these are the best video poker pay tables on the Strip. I welcome correction on that.

Also worth mentioning is the craps is 100x odds.

The question for the poll is will this change your gambling behavior (multiple votes allowed)?

p.s. Choice #7 should read "It won't last until Thanksgiving."
Last edited by: Wizard on Oct 17, 2016
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:12:51 PM permalink
I haven't set foot in that building since it was the Barbaric Coast. I've read on VpFree that its video poker was as lousy as on the rest of the Strip, so this would be a surprise. I would definitely play it, just to get in some play and join the slot club. That's all I would do, though.

Did you happen to see if play on those machines earned Crom Points or whatever?
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:15:08 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In doing my scouting for my Vegas survey I noticed a bank of $0.25 video poker machines right at the Cromwell entrance with the following games and pay tables.

Game Pay Table Return
Jacks or better 9,6 99.54%
Bonus poker 8,5 99.17%
Double bonus 9,7,5 99.11%
Deuces wild 25,16,10 99.73%
Joker poker -- kings 940,18,7 98.94%
Triple double bonus 9,7 99.58%
Deuces wild bonus poker 25,9,4,4,3 99.45%
Deuces and joker wild 25,12,9,6 99.07%


As far as I know, these are the best video poker pay tables on the Strip. I welcome correction on that.

Also worth mentioning is the craps is 100x odds.

The question for the poll is will this change your gambling behavior (multiple votes allowed)?

p.s. Choice #7 should read "It won't last until Thanksgiving."



940/18/7 KoB Joker Poker = 99.29%. 98.94% is the 800 for 1 Royal version.

From Wynn to Mandalay Bay these are definitely the best payback games at single line for quarters. Circus Circus still offers the 8/5 Aces and Eights with progressive royals and sequential royals at the 50c level (100.25%+prog.). It's 7/5 at the quarter level (99.10%+prog.).

They have lasted at Cromwell for almost a year now. A lot longer than I expected. What I wonder is, would they get a lot more play if they didn't insist on all the games being 99%+ and they offered 9/6 DDB (98.98%)? Or they could have gave a 99%+ version of DDB with either DDB Plus (99.44%), DDB Aces with Faces (99.46%), or one I really would like to try, 9/6 DDB Red and Black (99.67%).
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:27:22 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Did you happen to see if play on those machines earned Crom Points or whatever?


Being that it's Caesars, don't you mean crumb points?
Last edited by: Ibeatyouraces on Oct 17, 2016
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:35:13 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

940/18/7 KoB Joker Poker = 99.29%. 98.94% is the 800 for 1 Royal version.



You're right. Thank you for the correction.
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:38:29 PM permalink
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Being that is Caesars, don't you mean crumb points?



lol

Those machines are $50 per tier credit instead of the usual $10. Probably only worth putting your card in if you plan to gamble significantly at something else.
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:41:20 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Being that is Caesars, don't you mean crumb points?

What would you call Circus points?
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October 17th, 2016 at 3:46:36 PM permalink
The machines and craps tables are right next to each other... great place to spend some low HE time. Important to note that while they have 3-4 tables up front, there's one table way in the back that they open when the place really gets hopping.

With that said, they've destroyed me at both craps and VP. I've had extremely bad luck there.

I'd also like to point out that I've gotten particularly bad ratings there.
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October 17th, 2016 at 4:02:14 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

I haven't set foot in that building since it was the Barbaric Coast. I've read on VpFree that its video poker was as lousy as on the rest of the Strip, so this would be a surprise.

These machines have been in the vpfree database for almost a year.
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October 17th, 2016 at 4:52:52 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Being that is Caesars, don't you mean crumb points?



lol

Those machines are $50 per tier credit instead of the usual $10. Probably only worth putting your card in if you plan to gamble significantly at something else.



I played these machines last year.
I'm glad to hear they are still around
I was under the impression you earn zero credits playing this machine
I remember NY NY had a 25cent 99.54 machine. It had no slot for a players card.
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October 17th, 2016 at 6:03:08 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Being that it's Caesars, don't you mean crumb points?



I should have known that there was no such thing as a Strip casino that wasn't owned by CET or MGM.

I hope the slot club is cromulent.
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October 17th, 2016 at 8:22:09 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Being that it's Caesars, don't you mean crumb points?



I should have known that there was no such thing as a Strip casino that wasn't owned by CET or MGM.

I hope the slot club is cromulent.



Tropicana, Cosmopolitan, Casino Royale, Treasure Island, Venetian, Palazzo, Wynn, Encore, SLS, Stratosphere are the only non-MGM/CET casinos on the strip I believe. Aztec Inn if you want to count that too...
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October 18th, 2016 at 5:03:44 PM permalink
You could count Circus circus as its own also if we're getting technical.
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October 19th, 2016 at 12:39:42 AM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

You could count Circus circus as its own also if we're getting technical.



CC is technically owned by MGM, so I left it out... But they do have a separate players' club. The red-headed stepchild of MGM.
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October 20th, 2016 at 10:27:07 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

CC is technically owned by MGM, so I left it out... But they do have a separate players' club. The red-headed stepchild of MGM.

Not many redheads there.

But doesn't CC do well?
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October 20th, 2016 at 10:29:54 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Not many redheads there.

But doesn't CC do well?



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October 20th, 2016 at 1:16:54 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In doing my scouting for my Vegas survey I noticed a bank of $0.25 video poker machines right at the Cromwell entrance with the following games and pay tables.

Game Pay Table Return
Jacks or better 9,6 99.54%
Bonus poker 8,5 99.17%
Double bonus 9,7,5 99.11%
Deuces wild 25,16,10 99.73%
Joker poker -- kings 940,18,7 99.29%
Triple double bonus 9,7 99.58%
Deuces wild bonus poker 25,9,4,4,3 99.45%
Deuces and joker wild 25,12,9,6 99.07%


As far as I know, these are the best video poker pay tables on the Strip. I welcome correction on that.

Also worth mentioning is the craps is 100x odds.

The question for the poll is will this change your gambling behavior (multiple votes allowed)?

p.s. Choice #7 should read "It won't last until Thanksgiving."


it'll last forever there because of $50 coin-in per point.
not worth it if you're playing for Caesars tier credits.

planet Hollywood dstp (9/5 JoB) @ 99% is better because of standard $10 coin-in per point.

100x odds is nice because Casino Royale went down to 3/4/5x. :(
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October 20th, 2016 at 2:35:24 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard


As far as I know, these are the best video poker pay tables on the Strip. I welcome correction on that.

Yes I think tied for the best. I think TI hs 50 Cent 9/6 JoB too, near the High Limit room.
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October 21st, 2016 at 11:46:06 AM permalink
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it'll last forever there because of $50 coin-in per point.
not worth it if you're playing for Caesars tier credits.



Fair enough. For Caesars tier credits you shouldn't be playing in Las Vegas anyway.

However, for free play "purchased" at the Great Gift Wrap Up, for those who don't need any more tier credits this year, playing it off at 25c NSU gives you the best bang for your buck. This assumes you either have a small amount to play off and/or put a low value on your time.
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