rudeboyoi
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December 7th, 2011 at 2:27:17 AM permalink
okay so silver nugget doesnt give FSP exactly since theyre not that technologically advanced. what they do is send u coupons in the mail and you bring them to the cage and they give you cash. so last month i got 4 $30 "FSP" coupons. i only used one of them and when i cashed it, it was for the full amount. this month i got 4 $20 FSP coupons and my friend got 4 $30 FSP coupons. when we went down there to cash them, there was apparently an error in their printing they said as an excuse. all coupons mailed out to all the players are only worth half their value. so my 4 $20 coupons were essentially 4 $10 coupons and my friends were only worth $15. ive never seen or heard of anything like this and think this is really poor service on their part not fully honoring the coupons they mailed out. what do you guys think about this?
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December 7th, 2011 at 4:21:01 AM permalink
FSP? the jargon has stumped me.
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December 7th, 2011 at 4:22:59 AM permalink
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FSP? the jargon has stumped me.



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December 7th, 2011 at 5:15:44 AM permalink
Sounds like they are needlessly shooting themselves in the foot.

The offer did it's job. It got the people in the door.

It was printed wrong? So what? Rather than create ill-will, just honor the offer. After all, all it means is that it will take a little longer for those people to start feeding their own money into the machine.

Take the hard-nose attitude you're taking, and people will play thru the free play, then take their bankroll elsewhere.
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December 7th, 2011 at 6:00:02 AM permalink
Couple weeks ago Station sent out 3 $250 FSP mailers to 1% of their mailing list. Later they apoligized in the Review Journal saying they were misprinted and should have been $5.00 instead.
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December 7th, 2011 at 7:48:27 AM permalink
Seems like they have a right to do that, but that is horrible customer service. If you want to, I would speak to Gaming -- they handle promotions as well.

4x$30 in hard cash is pretty generous. That's more than some welfare checks.
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December 7th, 2011 at 11:04:06 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Sounds like they are needlessly shooting themselves in the foot.

The offer did it's job. It got the people in the door.

It was printed wrong? So what? Rather than create ill-will, just honor the offer. After all, all it means is that it will take a little longer for those people to start feeding their own money into the machine.

Take the hard-nose attitude you're taking, and people will play thru the free play, then take their bankroll elsewhere.



you dont even need to play through it since they just give you cash but i feel that a lot of players that received these mailers felt less obligated to do so when they only got half.
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December 7th, 2011 at 1:14:38 PM permalink
Quote: thlf

Couple weeks ago Station sent out 3 $250 FSP mailers to 1% of their mailing list. Later they apoligized in the Review Journal saying they were misprinted and should have been $5.00 instead.



I've received a couple $200 offers from Stations in the past. I live in Minnesota. It probably goes without saying how angry I'd be if I arrived in Vegas to find out that I had $5 to play with.
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December 7th, 2011 at 1:25:15 PM permalink
The 2011 American Casino Guide had a coupon for $25 freeplay from the Venetian which was not honored when I visited in July. "Management reserves the right to alter promotions at any time...." was the explanation I received, and was not surprised having known they drastically and publicly cut down on comped rooms earlier this year. They gave me a crappy t shirt instead and lost a potential customer for the time being. I agree that they have the right to rescind offers, but we have the right to be pissed off and take our patronage elsewhere.

I wonder how many of those coupons got turned down this year...for someone planning to stay on the strip they may have bought the guide for that coupon alone (which had the potential of paying for the book).
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December 8th, 2011 at 10:04:10 AM permalink
Quote: progrocker

The 2011 American Casino Guide had a coupon for $25 freeplay from the Venetian which was not honored when I visited in July. "Management reserves the right to alter promotions at any time...." was the explanation I received, and was not surprised having known they drastically and publicly cut down on comped rooms earlier this year. They gave me a crappy t shirt instead and lost a potential customer for the time being. I agree that they have the right to rescind offers, but we have the right to be pissed off and take our patronage elsewhere.

I wonder how many of those coupons got turned down this year...for someone planning to stay on the strip they may have bought the guide for that coupon alone (which had the potential of paying for the book).



i remember that coupon. its for new members only. i had a card for the Venetian from 5yrs ago. it had an indiana address on it though. so when he was looking up my info, i said that wasnt me. i live out here in las vegas and never lived in indiana. even though i have a very uncommon last name and the birthdate matched on each card, i still managed to get a new one and was able to use that $25 freeplay.
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December 8th, 2011 at 10:55:39 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Sounds like they are needlessly shooting themselves in the foot.

Precisely. They should know: If you book it, you pay it. That is the fundamental rule in the casino. When the customer wins, he gets paid. No hem, no haw, no song, no dance!
Printer error? Maybe. So what? If it says "X" ... you play it as "X" and you pay it as "X". No exceptions, no quibbling. No mother's maiden name and no left thumbprint.

I can just see someone walking into a casino carrying a suitcase of money ... if he gets treated like that: he and his suitcase of money are going to the casino next door! The whole idea is to get the customer and his money into the casino. Treating them right is what keeps winners coming back to "repay their loans". And quite frankly, its exactly the same if the guy walks into the casino with a paltry sum. It is "Good Evening, Sir" even if his bankroll is rather low.
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December 8th, 2011 at 1:23:12 PM permalink
Printing error? Not possible. Someone designs that coupon at the request of the casino, maybe even an in-house designer. Someone typed that number. Casino signed off on a proof. It went to press with that number. Casino gets several boxes of mailers to send out, knowing what the number is on that mailer, or they never would've mailed it with such an error. Or, it gets direct-mailed by printhouse, but casino would def get one of the finished product before mailing 50,000 out to people on a list. If for some crazy reason printing error was valid, the casino could sue printhouse to reclaim losses based on printhouse's error. Any honorable printhouse would be super-apologetic and probably give free printing to the casino for life to make up the losses.
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December 8th, 2011 at 1:36:12 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

i remember that coupon. its for new members only. i had a card for the Venetian from 5yrs ago. it had an indiana address on it though. so when he was looking up my info, i said that wasnt me. i live out here in las vegas and never lived in indiana. even though i have a very uncommon last name and the birthdate matched on each card, i still managed to get a new one and was able to use that $25 freeplay.



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December 30th, 2016 at 9:46:52 PM permalink
Do casinos need to use the phrase "not responsible for printing or typographical errors" to be not responsible for printing or typographical errors? Unnamed casino, sends out invitations for multiple winners of unnamed cash drawings per hour, then says it's only one per hour. Supposedly they sent out corrections, but I never received one myself. It does mention the promotion may be changed with Lottery Commision approval, which acts like nothing better than a bunch of gypsies.
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December 30th, 2016 at 10:02:57 PM permalink
Its often a question of damages? What did YOU lose by having only ONE name drawn per hour.

And if its an Indian casino... forget it. Misleading or even downright false coupons can't be challenged anywhere but in a tribal court with a tribal lawyer. Its considered a business decision, not a gambling one.
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December 30th, 2016 at 10:12:37 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Its often a question of damages? What did YOU lose by having only ONE name drawn per hour.

And if its an Indian casino... forget it. Misleading or even downright false coupons can't be challenged anywhere but in a tribal court with a tribal lawyer. Its considered a business decision, not a gambling one.

Emotional distress, ev probably about $250 unless I'm called, then nothing, because people aren't able to be drawn multiple times with only one entry. This is not an Indian casino, as the lottery commission approval implies. I'd name it, but don't want to sound like a broken record. Anyone that pays attention knows what casino this is. The drawing is tomorrow, we'll see what happens.
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December 31st, 2016 at 7:13:49 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Anyone that pays attention knows what casino this is.



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