Excalibur praise for honoring expired ticket
I had to pass through there today on my way to the Luxor so presented this yellowed ticket replete with pushpin holes. So, I approach the cage with the ticket and apologize for my tardiness cashing it, but request forgiveness of the expiration date and get my $10 anyway. The cashier said "no," and pointed to the 30-day expiration policy. So I asked to speak to a supervisor. He radioed one to come over, and one showed up in less than 30 seconds. I showed him the ticket and he gave me a gentle ribbing about it being four years old but approved it without argument.
So, due praise to the Excalibur for honoring the ticket. It also goes to show to not take "no" for an answer too easily.
Still, someone there knows what the term 'good will' means.
edit: Come to think of it somebody must have tried to cash an old ticket before. Maybe they do deserve a little praise.
Quote: JuyemuraLet's face it, you're famous. I wonder what would happen if a layperson tried to do this.
My web sites may be well known, but I'm seldom acknowledged in public by strangers. In public I'm just your average middle-aged white guy.
Quote: SOOPOOI had 4 $5 chips from Turning Stone, which I accidentally took home years back. When I finally went back they would not honor them. I asked to speak to a supervisor, who politely told me I had 4 souveniers. She said they honored them for 2 years after they changed chips, and I was around 8 years too late.....
Before asking a supervisor - Make a $25 bet on craps with a new chip on top of the 4 old chips. Play until you lose. When they take the chips and look at them, I can't imagine they'd try to grab $20 of your new chips, it's an honest mistake.
LOL. I just happened to use these decade old chips!Quote: FinsRuleit's an honest mistake.
Quote: FinsRuleMake a $25 bet on craps with a new chip on top of the 4 old chips. Play until you lose. When they take the chips and look at them, I can't imagine they'd try to grab $20 of your new chips, it's an honest mistake.
I agree with this advice. When the Red Rock refused to honor some old chips I had, which were outdated by only months, I bet them in the sports book without problem.
Quote: IbeatyouracesAny place that refuses older chips and you have no alternative, use them as tip money later.
Your tip - a useless piece of clay. You figure out what to do with it. I like it!
Quote: IbeatyouracesAny place that refuses older chips and you have no alternative, use them as tip money later.
That would seem to be taking it out on the wrong person. For example, if you passed it off on a waitress, and she was unable to cash the chip, I would view that as stealing her service.
Quote: WizardThat would seem to be taking it out on the wrong person. For example, if you passed it off on a waitress, and she was unable to cash the chip, I would view that as stealing her service.
I disagree with this assessment...slightly. While it is not something that I would do, the chip only has +EV for the waitress and no value to the player. The casino will either honor the chip for the waitress or it will not, so whatever the odds are (at least, whatever the tipper thinks the odds are) of the casino actually accepting the chip from the waitress, expressed as a decimal * the face value of the chip = the effective amount of the tip.
I think, "Stealing," is also a strong word because she must serve you whether or not she is tipped.
I reiterate that I would not do this, anyway. As I have stated on a recent thread, even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Perhaps a future radio guest will be Brother Chip who goes around town accepting all the gambling chips from churches and other businesses that often wind up with chips including out of date chips.Quote: IbeatyouracesAny place that refuses older chips and you have no alternative, use them as tip money later.
When a dealer calls out "Foreign Chips" it means from some other casino and its up to the box and floor personnel to make decisions on it. They were routinely accepted years ago before all the paperwork and currency regs, now its less likely to happen. Usually a casino will want ALL the chips that you have in ONE transaction rather than letting you serially wager them.
Quote: Mission146even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Whaaat?!?! So you tip $5 for a rum & coke???
Like my Pa' always said "If if weren't for your patronage, that cocktail waitress wouldn't HAVE a job."
Quote: Mission146I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
If the casino comps you a meal, do you tip the entire price to the wait staff?
Quote: Mission146I reiterate that I would not do this, anyway. As I have stated on a recent thread, even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Personally, when I get a comp to anything I still tip based on what I would tip if I were paying for whatever I received, perhaps a little more. This may have been what Mission was trying to say.
Quote: WizardQuote: Mission146I reiterate that I would not do this, anyway. As I have stated on a recent thread, even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Personally, when I get a comp to anything I still tip based on what I would tip if I were paying for whatever I received, perhaps a little more. This may have been what Mission was trying to say.
If you are comped a suite at the Wynn, do you tip housekeeping based on the rack rate, or is it always the same $X for good service whether it's the Wynn or Days Inn?
Quote: AyecarumbaIf you are comped a suite at the Wynn, do you tip housekeeping based on the rack rate, or is it always the same $X for good service whether it's the Wynn or Days Inn?
This is two issues.
Wether you tip housekeeping a different amount based upon the type of hotel is one thing.
Whether the room was comped or not is irrelevant.
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Regarding giving a waitress an old chip that the cage won't cash, I see three possibilities.
1 - You have no idea if the casino will cash it for the waitress, and they do not cash it. This is worse than stiffing the waitress, and falls in line with what the Wiz had said in this post about "stealing her service", albeit, you have no way of knowing that at the time.
2 - You have no idea, and the casino does cash it. This is a very weird gamble in that you never learn if the waitress was a winner or a loser.
3 - You know the casino will cash it for the waitress. This is a win-win.
Yeah, there's really a fourth possibility:
4 - You know the casino won't cash it for the waitress, and you use it for a tip anyway. You're a jerk with a capital J.
Housekeeping tips just might be pooled too. I don't know. It seems unenforceable but who knows. If Housekeeping tips are pooled, the housekeepers don't attend any sort of toke counting... they get a print out and a check or some such thing each week.
You can tip a waiter on your hotel bill and usually the casino will zero it out separately from your zeroed out room charge, but I don't know of any way to tip housekeeping on your hotel bill, particularly if its a comped room or rate adjusted room. I usually have done cash or cash/chips for the maid. And if you are lucky enough to have been given a free room you would have to be pretty darn cheap not to share your good fortune with the maid.
Quote: FleaStiffWaitresses pool tips on some sort of shift/week basis. So giving any sort of unusual chip to a waitress will be "lost" in the shuffle or I guess "muck" done by the toke committee.
Let's say that you know the chip will never be honored, and the waitresses pool tips. In that case tipping a worthless chip is still just as bad as stealing the service of a single waitress. You're just spreading the loss among more people, but the sum is the same.
Quote: TIMSPEEDQuote: Mission146even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Whaaat?!?! So you tip $5 for a rum & coke???
Like my Pa' always said "If if weren't for your patronage, that cocktail waitress wouldn't HAVE a job."
I drink either Godfathers, Bombay Sapphire (neat) or Beer whilst gambling, and never more that two drinks in a night (unlike now, because my wife got me a very nice bottle of gin for our anniversary...I am taking her to a very expensive dinner next weekend...and I am completely plastered atm) but yes, whatever the drink costs, that's what I tip.
I am not wealthy, but I make more than their base pay, and if the casino sees fit not to charge me for the drink that I can afford, someone who may or may not...but, most importantly may...need it more than I do will reap the benefits. Besides, I'd have tipped if I had to pay for it, so still saving money.
Quote: rxwineQuote: Mission146I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
If the casino comps you a meal, do you tip the entire price to the wait staff?
I am a vegetarian, so there is very little of interest to me at casino buffets. I do not take advantage of the offer. I usually eat at Mexican/Italian/Greek establishments which generally offer a strong vegetarian selection.
Quote: WizardQuote: Mission146I reiterate that I would not do this, anyway. As I have stated on a recent thread, even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Personally, when I get a comp to anything I still tip based on what I would tip if I were paying for whatever I received, perhaps a little more. This may have been what Mission was trying to say.
Thank you, Wiz, but no, if the cost of a Godfather is $6.00 and they give me it free, I tip $6.00.
Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: WizardQuote: Mission146I reiterate that I would not do this, anyway. As I have stated on a recent thread, even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
Personally, when I get a comp to anything I still tip based on what I would tip if I were paying for whatever I received, perhaps a little more. This may have been what Mission was trying to say.
If you are comped a suite at the Wynn, do you tip housekeeping based on the rack rate, or is it always the same $X for good service whether it's the Wynn or Days Inn?
I have never been, nor will I likely ever be, to Las Vegas.
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I am a vegetarian, so there is very little of interest to me at casino buffets. .
Lots of vegetables at buffets I've been to.
Just because I am a vegetarian doesn't mean I don't want an entree!
Some are better than others of course.
The one I wasn't satisfied with was River City in St. Louis. When I asked them why every single dish they served had bacon in it for some strange reason, they asked me what I wanted. I pointed to a tortellini dish with alfredo sauce, vegetables, and bacon, and said "That with no bacon" They said - "It'll be ready in 10 minutes" It was as good as something you'd expect from an above average Italian place, and I was impressed with the customer service.
I know you said you were never going to Vegas, but the Bellagio buffet has plenty of amazing vegetarian stuff.
Thanks for the tip on Bellagio, I'll definitely check that out if I ever make it out to Vegas. I suppose you could ask for the entrees made w/o meat, but I would worry about food tampering if they get PO'ed about an out of the ordinary request...
As far as the maid goes, if I win I will tip, but if I lose she goes down with the ship.
Quote: bigfoot66I think you are crazy to tip the entire cost of a drink to the waitress. If everyone tipped the waitress $5 and she can deliver 30 drinks an hour, a full time waitress would make $312,000 a year in tips alone. Should society reward someone who delivers drinks as well as many corporate exectutives?
No, but if they did, I probably wouldn't tip that much. My standpoint is that if someone is going to have a bad day on tips, I'll have nothing to do with that fact!
Quote: WizardMission, what would you do in this situation I was once in. I had dinner with a casino host, which he was paying for. For the wine I asked him to choose one, since my philosophy on picking wines is to pick the second cheapest (under the mistaken assumption it avoids making me look cheap). The host picked a bottle close to $1000. The bill comes and I offer to pick up the tip before actually looking at it. I was pretty shocked to see the cost the wine. Had you been in my shoes, would you have tipped $1000 on the wine alone?
I have to admit that I would not do that because I did not know the cost of the wine ahead of time. I always ask the cocktail waitress what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, and then give her that amount. However, I do so knowing ahead of time about what the cost of the drink would be. I guess you didn't really have that option in that situation, so I'm not sure what to do.
I guess I will just have to hope that I never find myself in that situation.
I've always considered percentage tipping as just a convenient way to come up with a figure, but if I ever were "trapped" into tipping for service from such a wine bottle, I think I would tip based on my assessment of the value of the service, not the value/price of the wine.
Same thinking that keeps me from limiting a tip to 20% on a $3.98 gambler's special breakfast.
Quote: DocJust curious, but what is the rationale for concluding that a waitress/waiter/steward should be tipped substantially higher for pouring from a $1,000 bottle of wine than for pouring from a $50 bottle of wine? How much better "service" do you get from the server? Does it require a lot more skill and training?
As long as this thread has been completely hijacked, I'll try to answer that. To play the devil's advocate, I think they actually do use better quality glasses for really high-end wine, and make the ceremony of the tasting and pouring more dramatic. It probably also ensures that customers gets VIP treatment all around for spending that kind of money.
The waitress works a lot harder than the corporate executive does. Food for thought.Quote: bigfoot66Should society reward someone who delivers drinks as well as many corporate executives?
Quote: s2dbakerThe waitress works a lot harder than the corporate executive does. Food for thought.
Who worked a lot harder to get through years of college??
Some wines in San Francisco are rather expensive but ship them to Las Vegas and somehow the restaurant's price for that bottle of wine more than doubles. I see no reason to tip based on prices that are grossly inflated.
Quote: FleaStiffWine selection and wine pricing is so arbitrary and inflated in that it really should be considered separately from normal tipping rules.
Some wines in San Francisco are rather expensive but ship them to Las Vegas and somehow the restaurant's price for that bottle of wine more than doubles. I see no reason to tip based on prices that are grossly inflated.
Wine mark up in restaurants typically can be 300% to 400%, but that is far from a top mark up item percentage wise. A bottle of water can be marked up 1000% or more, fountain drinks can be marked up 2000% or more. Or course in gross dollars and not percentages on wine the markups seem crazy.
Quote: DocJust curious, but what is the rationale for concluding that a waitress/waiter/steward should be tipped substantially higher for pouring from a $1,000 bottle of wine than for pouring from a $50 bottle of wine? How much better "service" do you get from the server? Does it require a lot more skill and training?
I've always considered percentage tipping as just a convenient way to come up with a figure, but if I ever were "trapped" into tipping for service from such a wine bottle, I think I would tip based on my assessment of the value of the service, not the value/price of the wine.
The waiter has to give a % of sales to bussers, back waiters, expos, hosts, bar tenders, sommeliers, etc. at least 5% sometimes much more especially at places that sell $1000 bottles of wine.
