BobDancer
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August 6th, 2016 at 1:22:50 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

A couple years ago I checked for meter rise on a 7-5 Bonus Poker progressive at AC-D, for quarters. I clocked it at the snail's pace of .15%. Naturally, the jackpot was about $1020. Why even offer it as a progressive if you're going to drag it in at a pace like that? That's stupid.



Not stupid, just not your cup of tea!

Don't assume other players are as savvy as you --- and they know things like pay schedules, meter rates, basic strategy, etc. Some players, including many seniors, will play anything! A 7-5 Bonus Poker game with no progressive at all is looser than many of the other games they have there. (I haven't been in there for years --- but still am quite certain it is true.) It's hard to make a case that a 98% game is gouging the senior players. Have you checked out the lower end games at Stations?

Casinos need to make their money somewhere. No casino can afford to offer 99%+ video poker everywhere.

For stronger players, so long as the casino offers the good games SOMEWHERE, along with appropriate slot clubs and promos, we can take our bite and move along. Every casino has some 95% or 96% video poker --- along with a ton of slot machines that are much tighter. It's not that hard to walk quietly by these machines and go play the ones that are more attractive to us.
bobbartop
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August 6th, 2016 at 3:54:27 PM permalink
Quote: BobDancer

Not stupid, just not your cup of tea!

Don't assume other players are as savvy as you --- and they know things like pay schedules, meter rates, basic strategy, etc. Some players, including many seniors, will play anything! A 7-5 Bonus Poker game with no progressive at all is looser than many of the other games they have there. (I haven't been in there for years --- but still am quite certain it is true.) It's hard to make a case that a 98% game is gouging the senior players. Have you checked out the lower end games at Stations?

Casinos need to make their money somewhere. No casino can afford to offer 99%+ video poker everywhere.

For stronger players, so long as the casino offers the good games SOMEWHERE, along with appropriate slot clubs and promos, we can take our bite and move along. Every casino has some 95% or 96% video poker --- along with a ton of slot machines that are much tighter. It's not that hard to walk quietly by these machines and go play the ones that are more attractive to us.




Players don't have to be "savvy" to recognize a bigger jackpot. I just thought it was stupid to have a jackpot that's never really going to get anywhere. At .15% it will probably seldom see $1100 in the best of times. Why not just raise it a smidgen, like maybe .5%? I would guess the casino would make more profit off a 7-5 BP progressive with a .5% meter than a .15% meter, because in the first scenario it will occasionally get big and attract a lot of action. Just my gut, no actual data.

I don't think I was implying that a 98% game was gouging anyone, I just meant that a progressive that doesn't really progress, might as well not be a progressive.

Ok, not "stupid". Just not my cup of tea.
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monet0412
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:44:26 PM permalink
Once again I see everyone hating these type of casinos. I for one love Arizona Charlie!! Not only some good FP games but they love locals and they really love red card players. One of the few places where the hosts calls me all the time begging me to come back and give me 100 dollar steak house just to show up with free cash mailers as well etc etc. However I hope all you sharpies stay away!!
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August 6th, 2016 at 4:52:20 PM permalink
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Once again I see everyone hating these type of casinos.



No no no no no no no. You misunderstood me. Or I just don't know how to convey myself in print. I don't hate Arizona Charlie's, not at all. I like the small places, and I like Arizona Charlie's. Maybe I sounded negative, I think I wish I could go back and take my comments back.

Strike everything I said. I LIKE Arizona Charlie's!
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monet0412
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August 6th, 2016 at 5:20:28 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

No no no no no no no. You misunderstood me. Or I just don't know how to convey myself in print. I don't hate Arizona Charlie's, not at all. I like the small places, and I like Arizona Charlie's. Maybe I sounded negative, I think I wish I could go back and take my comments back.

Strike everything I said. I LIKE Arizona Charlie's!



My comments weren't directed at you. I didn't read all the comments but when I see the wiz saying this casino is only for people with a SS check and some other negative comments, I realize that most people are hating this place like the Plaza. Of course this could be mis direction as well since I know for a fact that AZ Charlie Decatur has always been a good spot for FP and locals with good mail. AZ Boulder is another story and the Stratosphere hasn't had my action for a very long time. Now the Aquarius is really good if you don't mind going to Laughlin. My point is that I see a lot of negative comments but I understand. People want to gamble in new casinos with scented air and model type hookers running around. I for one want to be able to gamble with a place that gives me the three basics for smaller no risk plays. Good Food, Good Gamble, and Good Drink. I eat and drink almost anything so I really only require Good Gamble which AZ Charlie Decatur has enough for me. Honestly though the AZ Decatur Buffet is pretty good IMHO.
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August 6th, 2016 at 6:32:18 PM permalink
Quote: monet0412

My comments weren't directed at you.



Oh. Uh, never mind.
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billryan
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August 6th, 2016 at 7:37:03 PM permalink
Is the one on Decauter that much better than the Henderson one?
Worth a trip from the Green Valley area?
RogerKint
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August 6th, 2016 at 9:44:35 PM permalink
Is it just me or are the cocktail servers above average for what one would expect in a place like AZ Decatur?

Like AZD, circus circus lv doesn't require a deposit for incidentals, if you're into that kinda thang.
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RogerKint
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August 6th, 2016 at 9:46:28 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Is the one on Decauter that much better than the Henderson one?
Worth a trip from the Green Valley area?



IMO, no unless you enjoy being hit up for money by overly fidgety video keno players. If you like Philly cheese steaks there's a decent place across the street from AZD. I forget the name.
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monet0412
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August 6th, 2016 at 10:00:48 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Is the one on Decauter that much better than the Henderson one?
Worth a trip from the Green Valley area?



Nothing really to play at AZ Boulder... not much at Decatur but at least they offer a few FP games and they send good mail and don't mind giving out comps for things like food, rooms and smokes for daily play. Laughlin has good mail as well and really good Tournaments that are AP IMHO.

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