Quote: gordonm888One problem with desalination of ocean water is the brine - the salt -that is left behind. It is nasty stuff, chemically inimical to life, and becomes surprisingly massive very quickly. Think literally mountains of brine. Wouldn't social justice principles require us to pile up the brine in Arizona and Nevada because these are the people who would benefit from the desalinated water?
Or maybe the mountains of brine should be shipped to Massachusetts where those evil, loathsome Bostonians - the pustulent satan-spawn of vermanity - roll around naked while lusting for lettuce. Why do Arizonians allow such effete lettuce-lusters to live? Surely, it is righteous for Arizonians to hate and hate and hate.*
Seriously, the villains of the western water situation are:
- the families and corporations that converted the deserts of California into vast water-gulping farms.
- the people who converted the deserts of Nevada and Arizona into dense population centers (Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson). It is not helpful to characterize the sun as the problem, it's the lack of plant life/vegetation in the area which would raise the humidity and lead to clouds - which would in turn solve the evaporation problem.
*This is satire, satirizing the tone of billryans post.
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Speaking as a pustulent satan-spawn of vermanity, evil, loathsome Bostonian, we cut down on our lettuce consumption due to the poop parasite.
Speaking as a pustulent satan-spawn of vermanity, evil, loathsome Bostonian, we are one fo the few areas of the country not in a drought. https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
The solution? Bring back beavers to their natural habitat. Let them build damns to hold back water allowing shrubs and trees to grow back around rivers and streams and beaver ponds.
The solution? Green energy powered desalination plants and pumps to deliver the water to where it is needed,
The solution? The North American Water and Power Alliance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Water_and_Power_Alliance
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: HunterhillWould the brine be good for salting the roads, they use alot of salt in the northeast
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No. It would mean pouring a liquid all over the roads. Problematic for multiple reasons.
We have found uses for other waste products, it is just a matter of researching what could be done with it. Chlorine for pools seems a logical thing if you could break the chemical bond. Also for other cleaning uses.
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They literally already spray salt-water all over the roadways for de-icing.
https://sensorex.com/salt-brine-for-roads-liquid-deicing/
Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: HunterhillWould the brine be good for salting the roads, they use alot of salt in the northeast
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No. It would mean pouring a liquid all over the roads. Problematic for multiple reasons.
We have found uses for other waste products, it is just a matter of researching what could be done with it. Chlorine for pools seems a logical thing if you could break the chemical bond. Also for other cleaning uses.
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They literally already spray salt-water all over the roadways for de-icing.
https://sensorex.com/salt-brine-for-roads-liquid-deicing/
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Still looks like a very bad idea. Well, good for Ziebart.......
"A body found in a barrel in Lake Mead in 2022 has been identified as an Arkansas man after DNA testing, authorities revealed Thursday in a case that sparked a frenzy of questions and speculation decades after his death.
Edward Lelburian Jackson, believed to be in his 50s, was likely fatally shot sometime in the early 1980s, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Homicide Lt. Robert Price said.
Jackson, who was also known as “Buddy,” had faced criminal charges in Utah and was last seen visiting family in Arkansas in the early ’80s, according to Price. The investigation revealed Jackson had no ties to Las Vegas." Picture below.

Quote: billryanThe incredible storms in Colorado and New Mexico have raised Lake Powell's water level by 7 feet over the past few weeks. It's still at crisis level at only 23% of capacity, but the deadpool threat is eliminated for now.
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What does Lake Powell have to do with Lake mead?
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: billryanThe incredible storms in Colorado and New Mexico have raised Lake Powell's water level by 7 feet over the past few weeks. It's still at crisis level at only 23% of capacity, but the deadpool threat is eliminated for now.
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What does Lake Powell have to do with Lake mead?
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Isn't it 300 miles upstream?
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: billryanThe incredible storms in Colorado and New Mexico have raised Lake Powell's water level by 7 feet over the past few weeks. It's still at crisis level at only 23% of capacity, but the deadpool threat is eliminated for now.
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What does Lake Powell have to do with Lake mead?
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Only everything.
Water from the Colorado River is stored in three giant reservoirs. Lake Powell, Lake Mead, and Lake Mohave. The Colorado flows into Lake Powell, which then releases it into Lake Mead. When Powell is extremely low, as it now is, the water flowing into Mead is greatly reduced. The higher Lake Powell sits, the more water is released into Lake Mead.
Rain in the Vegas area doesn't greatly affect Lake Mead. Rain and snow upstream affect it: it flows into the Colorado, then into Lake Powell, where excess water is released into Lake Mead. Mead then releases water through Hoover Dam into Lake Mohave, just outside Laughlin.
One river, three dams, three artificial lakes. It's all one system.
When it snows or rains in the Rockies, or upstream the water flows into the Colorado. The Colorado used to vary from a mile wide raging river in the Spring to a stream you could walk across in the fall. The U.S. built a system of three dams, Glen Canyon, Hoover/Boulder Dam, and Davis Dam, to create three giant reservoirs that provide year-round water and electricity.
BTW- I just learned that Lake Mead is not named after General George Meade but instead is named after a Doctor Mead, who I never heard of.
Rainstorms bring temporary relief, but the system needs a near-record snowfall this winter to begin to recover.
The Four Corners area didn't use to get fall storms. Last fall was the heaviest rains since 1911, and this year/s total has already topped last year's, with heavy rain expected this weekend.

