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May 2nd, 2019 at 6:13:41 PM permalink
Poll question: If you were on the LV city council, how would you have voted for the legalization of Cannabis consumption lounges?

On Wednesday the Las Vegas City Council voted to legalize marijuana social-use lounges. Marijuana is already legal to purchase in sin city but buyers will soon be able to blaze away freely in specified locations. Already licensed dispensaries will be given first shot at lounge permits and could open as early as January 2020.

There are, obviously, a few restrictions. A lounge must be at least 1000 feet away from a school or casino. No alcohol is allowed on the property. Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino).

Not everyone is happy. Some casino owners are complaining about having to deal with even more public intoxication issues.

Full Story Here.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 6:26:42 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Poll question: If you were on the LV city council, how would you have voted for the legalization of Cannabis consumption lounges?

On Wednesday the Las Vegas City Council voted to legalize marijuana social-use lounges. Marijuana is already legal to purchase in sin city but buyers will soon be able to blaze away freely in specified locations. Already licensed dispensaries will be given first shot at lounge permits and could open as early as January 2020.

There are, obviously, a few restrictions. A lounge must be at least 1000 feet away from a school or casino. No alcohol is allowed on the property. Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino).

Not everyone is happy. Some casino owners are complaining about having to deal with even more public intoxication issues.

Full Story Here.

I just seen that on the news. I thought, A lounge with no gaming, well that's some lost income. They better make the lounges really cool.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 6:41:53 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

A lounge must at least 1000 feet away from a casino.

Distant from a casino or distant from a casino property? Some casinos have humungous parking lots so it would be easy to have a lounge on the property but sufficiently distant from the casino itself.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 7:38:14 PM permalink
I have no interest in a smoking lounge and I smoke
1st off, stuff is so potent these days, you just want a puff or 2.
The way to go is to give bars the freedom to allow or ban
They can choose to keep the bar MJ free or they can allow it.
Some may have an issue with the smell
Some may look at allowing it as a competitive edge
Let the free market do its work
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:04:41 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Distant from a casino or distant from a casino property? Some casinos have humungous parking lots so it would be easy to have a lounge on the property but sufficiently distant from the casino itself.



And then run a shuttle back and forth.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:07:53 PM permalink
Personally I think they should designate some of the High Roller cars (vegas ferris wheel) weed lounges.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:17:59 PM permalink
I wonder how they monetize it. In Amsterdam, you could theoretically walk into a "coffee shop", smoke, and leave without actually buying anything. Too many people would abuse that privilege in Vegas, they couldn't allow it. At the same time, it'd be stupid to enforce a membership for tourists. I could see them forcing you to buy a gram at $20, maybe prepaid for food vouchers.

I certainly hope they don't decide to go super high end and try and milk $100+ out of you. Sadly, that might be the right financial decision close to the strip/downtown.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 9:09:33 PM permalink
...Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino)....


That just seems chintzy, somehow. I mean, think of all the street people you're denying a contact high with this rule. The world could stand to mellow out. The smoke goes wasted this way...kidding, but only sort of.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 10:59:56 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Distant from a casino or distant from a casino property? Some casinos have humungous parking lots so it would be easy to have a lounge on the property but sufficiently distant from the casino itself.


It would certainly be 1000 feet from a school property line. I would guess it would be the same for a casino property line as well. 1000 feet isn't that far, less than a quarter mile (around 1.5 furlongs). The eligible dispensaries presumably already qualify.


Quote: ahiromu

I wonder how they monetize it. In Amsterdam, you could theoretically walk into a "coffee shop", smoke, and leave without actually buying anything. Too many people would abuse that privilege in Vegas, they couldn't allow it. At the same time, it'd be stupid to enforce a membership for tourists. I could see them forcing you to buy a gram at $20, maybe prepaid for food vouchers.

I certainly hope they don't decide to go super high end and try and milk $100+ out of you. Sadly, that might be the right financial decision close to the strip/downtown.


They could gouge you on the munchies, $15 for a bag of Cheetos. Why not? Many Vegas strip clubs charge $20 a beer.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 11:49:39 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Poll question: If you were on the LV city council, how would you have voted for the legalization of Cannabis consumption lounges?

On Wednesday the Las Vegas City Council voted to legalize marijuana social-use lounges. Marijuana is already legal to purchase in sin city but buyers will soon be able to blaze away freely in specified locations. Already licensed dispensaries will be given first shot at lounge permits and could open as early as January 2020.

There are, obviously, a few restrictions. A lounge must be at least 1000 feet away from a school or casino. No alcohol is allowed on the property. Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino).

Not everyone is happy. Some casino owners are complaining about having to deal with even more public intoxication issues.

Full Story Here.



That's going to he one smelly lounge. Probably enough to make people hurl.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 3:29:28 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

....you could theoretically walk into a "coffee shop"...

I've never smoked but did go with a friend into a "coffee shop" and they did serve me a coffee (while they smoked). It was rather like walking into a cafe, the was a side hatch to order smokes and somewhere to order coffee.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 4:44:20 AM permalink
Let them have them in casinos--it is legal to use, so why put too many restrictions on it. No, I don't really want it smoked freely in the casino area; I don't like cigarette and cigar smoke either, but I see no reason not to have a space where the smell does not escape the room anywhere they want to do it.

It isn't like they are really against public intoxication...unless the people are too intoxicated to allow them to gamble. That happens, of course, but there is way more completely inebriated gambling than they would like to talk about.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 4:51:12 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

..think of all the street people you're denying a contact high with this rule. The world could stand to mellow out. The smoke goes wasted this way...kidding, but only sort of.

I used to walk past a French Bakery several hours before it opened and it was wonderful to pass by their exhaust fan as the French chef was setting to work.

You may bemoan the passerby's loss but if anyone is too poor to enter and partake of their vices, then Vegas does not want them congregating as if were an overpass or something.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 9:59:04 AM permalink
I'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 11:05:32 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.



Shrug
I smoke and I have no interest in a lounge
I catch a buzz and go play golf
I catch a buzz and go play poker
I catch a buzz and go kayaking
I catch a buzz and go for a bike ride
I catch a buzz and go to a restaurant to satisfy the munchies :-)

I have no interest in catching a buzz and hanging out at some boring lounge
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May 3rd, 2019 at 11:13:01 AM permalink
I very rarely smoke but when I do I just want to sit still and just kind of zone out, so if I were more into it I would definitely consider visiting a dedicated lounge.

Gamble for a while, go to a lounge, get a little high and relax for an hour or two, then back to the tables... Sounds kind of nice, actually.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 5:14:25 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Shrug
I smoke and I have no interest in a lounge
I catch a buzz and go play golf
I catch a buzz and go play poker
I catch a buzz and go kayaking
I catch a buzz and go for a bike ride
I catch a buzz and go to a restaurant to satisfy the munchies :-)

I have no interest in catching a buzz and hanging out at some boring lounge


Sure I agree with you when I'm at home. But when you're a visitor in Vegas, you have no place to legally smoke the weed you legally buy. Can't smoke in the casinos, or in your hotel room, or in public. So they serve a very needed role in a touristy area.

Personally weed has kind of an opposite effect on me than it does on most people - I actually get a little fidgety and restless. I like to stand up and pace around. Weed will actually keep me awake, so I have to be careful not to smoke it too close to bedtime.

So to me, it would go really well with gambling. Well, not AP, but craps or BS blackjack.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 6:18:42 PM permalink
State of the art video and sound, video games , comfy couches, whatever games people want to play, internet access and a wide assortment of bongs, and other smoking utensils. Good munchies.
Sounds dreadful.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 7:32:29 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.



Me too.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 7:40:08 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.



Hard to imagine anything other than a nap cafe. Who wants to smoke and then just... lounge?

Call it "40 Quarters and a Nickle". Add some Golden Tee, little TMNT, Street Fighter II... now that's a place'll take your rent money
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May 3rd, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM permalink
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Hard to imagine anything other than a nap cafe. Who wants to smoke and then just... lounge?

Call it "40 Quarters and a Nickle". Add some Golden Tee, little TMNT, Street Fighter II... now that's a place'll take your rent money



You know, that could work. Sell a $10-$20 Blunt and a roll of tokens, couple of soft drink tickets, a snack for a set price. Pool tables, pinball, arcade video, lounge area with sports tv. Open mic nights, maybe even a poker room, chess and backgammon tables, etc.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 7:49:39 PM permalink
Where's the chess and backgammon games? Said not one pothead ever.😂
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May 3rd, 2019 at 7:55:45 PM permalink
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Where's the chess and backgammon games? Said not one pothead ever.😂



I played pothead bridge several times a week in college (then didn't smoke for 30+ years) - we had a great time with it. Don't knock games while high til you've tried it.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 8:46:30 PM permalink
I would smoke in a lounge with wall to wall Salvador Dali reproductions.

Anyway, the idea that a "smoking lounge' has to be any one particular thing is a really limited way to approach the idea.

And the way casinos run, they could change it every six months into something completely different.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 9:01:36 PM permalink
People should be able to try it where they buy it, it's not like the shops don't stank already.

Same thing for cigarettes, point where the public picks out their poison, and the revenuer's extract their pound of flesh.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 9:13:26 PM permalink
Casinos don't want any possible trouble with the Fed's. Besides, right now it's only the city, not the strip proper.

The lounges can't sell pot. They can only offers a place to enjoy your own. The utensils and entertainment they can offer will determine their success. Will people pay to smoke out of a $3,000 bong? Want to get high in a 69 Super Nova? How about getting high in the middle of a comic book shop? Smoke a joint while racking the pool table. Stock the place with a couple coeds and reel in the sheep.
This isn't just for tourist. I think they will get a lot of local support. The green rush is almost here. Be ready.
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May 4th, 2019 at 6:01:53 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Where's the chess and backgammon games? Said not one pothead ever.😂


I love playing complicated strategy games buzzed
Not big on backgammon but know how to play. Yea its strategy but dice are involved so there is a luck element
I love chess, especially with a buzz. All strategy, no luck.
My favorite strategy game to play buzzed is Sid Meir's Civilization. Greatest strategy game ever made
Very complicated which is why I love it. Fantastic game to play while buzzed. Very addictive game. Absolutely love it.

This is why I am a low roller. I don't like gambling but I love playing games. So I play at the cheapest stakes.
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May 4th, 2019 at 8:59:39 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

Let them have them in casinos--it is legal to use, so why put too many restrictions on it.



Because pot is still against federal law and casinos don't want to jeopardize their casino license. The feds could shut them down for allowing illegal activity.
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May 4th, 2019 at 9:03:50 AM permalink
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Because pot is still against federal law and casinos don't want to jeopardize their casino license. The feds could shut them down for allowing illegal activity.

Its too bad they don't adopt this attitude when it comes to other shenanigans, such as, putting the occasional smack down on AP's, and not honoring promotions.

I will admit, it seems like they have been doing much better in recent years.
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May 4th, 2019 at 9:12:52 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Shrug
I smoke and I have no interest in a lounge
I catch a buzz and go play golf
I catch a buzz and go play poker
I catch a buzz and go kayaking
I catch a buzz and go for a bike ride
I catch a buzz and go to a restaurant to satisfy the munchies :-)
I have no interest in catching a buzz and hanging out at some boring lounge


I think its a place to enjoy a very comfortable chair, a few games of chess, backgammon, etc.. perhaps some gratis high-quality chocolate in an atmosphere wherein there is no need to slurp booze all the time and the attractive females are not staring at your wallet.
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May 4th, 2019 at 9:29:27 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I think its a place to enjoy a very comfortable chair, a few games of chess, backgammon, etc.. perhaps some gratis high-quality chocolate in an atmosphere wherein there is no need to slurp booze all the time and the attractive females are not staring at your wallet.


I was picturing a cigar den, where they pretty much sit around and just smoke
If they are going to cater to me with food, entertainment and games for a fair price
I'm in :-)
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May 4th, 2019 at 9:55:45 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I was picturing a cigar den, where they pretty much sit around and just smoke
If they are going to cater to me with food, entertainment and games for a fair price
I'm in :-)

Even at a cigar bar with your own private humidor, you usually can get a very fine Brandy.
I think the marijuana bars will have to provide fine chocolates and gourmet coffee free of charge as well the game diversions being free; you might view it as a place to socialize with those who also go kayaking, etc.
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May 4th, 2019 at 10:03:58 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Even at a cigar bar with your own private humidor, you usually can get a very fine Brandy.
I think the marijuana bars will have to provide fine chocolates and gourmet coffee free of charge as well the game diversions being free; you might view it as a place to socialize with those who also go kayaking, etc.




How do you propose they make money?
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May 4th, 2019 at 10:38:30 AM permalink
In a followup story, dispensaries are now trying to figure out the safety and security concerns. This KVVU article (briefly) discusses the issue with Acres Cannabis VP Tim Lozott...

Quote:

Lozott said anyone who consumes any sort of marijuana will have to find a designated driver or another way of getting home.

The company's plan was to have a designated Uber, Lyft, and shuttle service for patrons. The shuttle service will be set to drive customers home to a safe location.

He said they also will increase security and security cameras.

"We're looking if anybody's falling asleep, or having too much. We're going to be increasing our security efforts," Lozott said.


Yeah, I can see pot lounge shuttles (imagine their decor) becoming a common sight on The Strip.
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May 4th, 2019 at 10:43:03 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

In a followup story, dispensaries are now trying to figure out the safety and security concerns. This KVVU article (briefly) discusses the issue with Acres Cannabis VP Tim Lozott...


Yeah, I can see pot lounge shuttles (imagine their decor) becoming a common sight on The Strip.



Mobile pot lounges.
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May 4th, 2019 at 10:50:42 AM permalink
Heh, yeah it could be like one of those bicycle bars.



Or maybe this...

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May 4th, 2019 at 12:10:24 PM permalink
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Heh, yeah it could be like one of those bicycle bars.



Or maybe this...



Guy goes through all that trouble and money to gussy up his ride and he doesn't spring for locking hubcaps.
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May 4th, 2019 at 9:18:15 PM permalink

I thought I was joking when writing out the poll selections but, in this crazy 21st century, today's joke is tomorrow's reality. It seems Denver will soon vote on legalizing magic mushrooms. (Oregon will as well in 2020.) This will not be for recreation but rather for medicinal use and there are studies to back it up. Still, this is the same road that led the legalization of marijuana so who knows? Maybe the next generation of Vegas tourists will be hanging out in oxygen/hookah/weed/mushroom lounges--no casino or strip club required. Sin City indeed.

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Quote: Gialmere

It seems Denver will soon vote on legalizing magic mushrooms. (Oregon will as well in 2020.) This will not be for recreation but rather for medicinal use and there are studies to back it up.




You can easily over dose on magic mushrooms. In addition, you will pass a point where you start "tripping" which is dangerous to the brain as you may not come back....I hope they defeat this.
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May 5th, 2019 at 10:28:56 AM permalink
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I wonder how they monetize it.



Do you also wonder how they monetize strip clubs?

I'm pretty sure it'll be very similar except instead of titties, you're going to have trichomes.

Instead of pussy, you're gonna have brownies.

Instead ass jiggling, you're going to have THC-infused jello-shots.

Advertising where people are getting their product and having people "go on runs" and "take donations" towards "runs" past and future are going to be all under the table.

Dollar bills are going to be flying in the form of "tips" and "donations" and weed will be equally free.

IE: replace "lap dance" with "hitting the nail" and replace "show me your tits" with "take a hit off this spliff" .. and you have the formula. Add in some club-style marketing where you can get your name in lights for providing free product for everyone in the shop (night club style) and you're profiting handily without even having to charge everyone in the "club."
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May 5th, 2019 at 11:12:11 AM permalink
Lots of bad information here.
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May 5th, 2019 at 1:47:07 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Do you also wonder how they monetize strip clubs?

I'm pretty sure it'll be very similar except instead of titties, you're going to have trichomes.

Instead of pussy, you're gonna have brownies.

Instead ass jiggling, you're going to have THC-infused jello-shots.

Advertising where people are getting their product and having people "go on runs" and "take donations" towards "runs" past and future are going to be all under the table.

Dollar bills are going to be flying in the form of "tips" and "donations" and weed will be equally free.

IE: replace "lap dance" with "hitting the nail" and replace "show me your tits" with "take a hit off this spliff" .. and you have the formula. Add in some club-style marketing where you can get your name in lights for providing free product for everyone in the shop (night club style) and you're profiting handily without even having to charge everyone in the "club."



Yecch. What a nasty way to go, out of all the fun things a pot palace could be. I sincerely hope you're wrong.
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May 5th, 2019 at 6:12:39 PM permalink
The big problem in Vegas is that every hotel now smells like a skunk soaked in cat urine. It literally makes your eyes water. The smell is overwhelming. Burning/smoking pot should be illegal just based on the smell. However, I have no problem with consumption.
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May 5th, 2019 at 6:35:24 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The big problem in Vegas is that every hotel now smells like a skunk soaked in cat urine.

I sure hope you are exaggerating... or is CET's deferred maintenance program worse than it used to be. Or worse, is it the personal hygiene of the players that has declined?
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May 5th, 2019 at 6:37:18 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I sure hope you are exaggerating... or is CET's deferred maintenance program worse than it used to be. Or worse, is it the personal hygiene of the players that has declined?



No, he's not exaggerating, sadly. The halls are completely skunked out.
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May 5th, 2019 at 6:50:47 PM permalink
I guess it smells like money?

Maybe some brave casino entrepreneur will take a risk and try a non smoking [of any kind] casino in Vegas.
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May 5th, 2019 at 10:51:43 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The big problem in Vegas is that every hotel now smells like a skunk soaked in cat urine. It literally makes your eyes water. The smell is overwhelming. Burning/smoking pot should be illegal just based on the smell. However, I have no problem with consumption.



I will add most every intersection to that. I guess, everybody is trying to outdo Cheech&Chong out here
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May 6th, 2019 at 8:02:33 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Do you also wonder how they monetize strip clubs?

I'm pretty sure it'll be very similar except instead of titties, you're going to have trichomes.

Instead of pussy, you're gonna have brownies.

Instead ass jiggling, you're going to have THC-infused jello-shots.



I am pretty sure that they are not allowed to sell any drugs in the lounges,
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May 6th, 2019 at 8:29:12 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

You can easily over dose on magic mushrooms. In addition, you will pass a point where you start "tripping" which is dangerous to the brain as you may not come back....I hope they defeat this.



Nok, I sure hope your comments reflect outdated data.

Current medical research increasingly suggests magic mushrooms (psilocybin) may be a real "game changer," especially regarding PTSD and other mental health problems faced (especially) by veterans (as well as many others). Here's a fairly recent summary from Wired:
Inside the Push to Legalize Magic Mushrooms for Depression and PTSD

IIRC, I once saw a double-blind study where the psilocybin group responded so much better that they had to stop the study so the "control" group could benefit also. If the positive effects are this striking, we need to continue the research (including care to identify "dangers, if any).
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May 6th, 2019 at 8:35:10 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I am pretty sure that they are not allowed to sell any drugs in the lounges,




I think most lounges will be attached to a dispensary so the sales are simply next door :-)
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