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On Wednesday the Las Vegas City Council voted to legalize marijuana social-use lounges. Marijuana is already legal to purchase in sin city but buyers will soon be able to blaze away freely in specified locations. Already licensed dispensaries will be given first shot at lounge permits and could open as early as January 2020.
There are, obviously, a few restrictions. A lounge must be at least 1000 feet away from a school or casino. No alcohol is allowed on the property. Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino).
Not everyone is happy. Some casino owners are complaining about having to deal with even more public intoxication issues.
Full Story Here.
I just seen that on the news. I thought, A lounge with no gaming, well that's some lost income. They better make the lounges really cool.Quote: GialmerePoll question: If you were on the LV city council, how would you have voted for the legalization of Cannabis consumption lounges?
On Wednesday the Las Vegas City Council voted to legalize marijuana social-use lounges. Marijuana is already legal to purchase in sin city but buyers will soon be able to blaze away freely in specified locations. Already licensed dispensaries will be given first shot at lounge permits and could open as early as January 2020.
There are, obviously, a few restrictions. A lounge must be at least 1000 feet away from a school or casino. No alcohol is allowed on the property. Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino).
Not everyone is happy. Some casino owners are complaining about having to deal with even more public intoxication issues.
Full Story Here.
Distant from a casino or distant from a casino property? Some casinos have humungous parking lots so it would be easy to have a lounge on the property but sufficiently distant from the casino itself.Quote: GialmereA lounge must at least 1000 feet away from a casino.
1st off, stuff is so potent these days, you just want a puff or 2.
The way to go is to give bars the freedom to allow or ban
They can choose to keep the bar MJ free or they can allow it.
Some may have an issue with the smell
Some may look at allowing it as a competitive edge
Let the free market do its work
Quote: FleaStiffDistant from a casino or distant from a casino property? Some casinos have humungous parking lots so it would be easy to have a lounge on the property but sufficiently distant from the casino itself.
And then run a shuttle back and forth.
I certainly hope they don't decide to go super high end and try and milk $100+ out of you. Sadly, that might be the right financial decision close to the strip/downtown.
That just seems chintzy, somehow. I mean, think of all the street people you're denying a contact high with this rule. The world could stand to mellow out. The smoke goes wasted this way...kidding, but only sort of.
Quote: FleaStiffDistant from a casino or distant from a casino property? Some casinos have humungous parking lots so it would be easy to have a lounge on the property but sufficiently distant from the casino itself.
It would certainly be 1000 feet from a school property line. I would guess it would be the same for a casino property line as well. 1000 feet isn't that far, less than a quarter mile (around 1.5 furlongs). The eligible dispensaries presumably already qualify.
Quote: ahiromuI wonder how they monetize it. In Amsterdam, you could theoretically walk into a "coffee shop", smoke, and leave without actually buying anything. Too many people would abuse that privilege in Vegas, they couldn't allow it. At the same time, it'd be stupid to enforce a membership for tourists. I could see them forcing you to buy a gram at $20, maybe prepaid for food vouchers.
I certainly hope they don't decide to go super high end and try and milk $100+ out of you. Sadly, that might be the right financial decision close to the strip/downtown.
They could gouge you on the munchies, $15 for a bag of Cheetos. Why not? Many Vegas strip clubs charge $20 a beer.
Quote: GialmerePoll question: If you were on the LV city council, how would you have voted for the legalization of Cannabis consumption lounges?
On Wednesday the Las Vegas City Council voted to legalize marijuana social-use lounges. Marijuana is already legal to purchase in sin city but buyers will soon be able to blaze away freely in specified locations. Already licensed dispensaries will be given first shot at lounge permits and could open as early as January 2020.
There are, obviously, a few restrictions. A lounge must be at least 1000 feet away from a school or casino. No alcohol is allowed on the property. Lounges must be filtered so no smoke escapes (like a smoking lounge in a Macau casino).
Not everyone is happy. Some casino owners are complaining about having to deal with even more public intoxication issues.
Full Story Here.
That's going to he one smelly lounge. Probably enough to make people hurl.
I've never smoked but did go with a friend into a "coffee shop" and they did serve me a coffee (while they smoked). It was rather like walking into a cafe, the was a side hatch to order smokes and somewhere to order coffee.Quote: ahiromu....you could theoretically walk into a "coffee shop"...
It isn't like they are really against public intoxication...unless the people are too intoxicated to allow them to gamble. That happens, of course, but there is way more completely inebriated gambling than they would like to talk about.
I used to walk past a French Bakery several hours before it opened and it was wonderful to pass by their exhaust fan as the French chef was setting to work.Quote: beachbumbabs..think of all the street people you're denying a contact high with this rule. The world could stand to mellow out. The smoke goes wasted this way...kidding, but only sort of.
You may bemoan the passerby's loss but if anyone is too poor to enter and partake of their vices, then Vegas does not want them congregating as if were an overpass or something.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.
Shrug
I smoke and I have no interest in a lounge
I catch a buzz and go play golf
I catch a buzz and go play poker
I catch a buzz and go kayaking
I catch a buzz and go for a bike ride
I catch a buzz and go to a restaurant to satisfy the munchies :-)
I have no interest in catching a buzz and hanging out at some boring lounge
Gamble for a while, go to a lounge, get a little high and relax for an hour or two, then back to the tables... Sounds kind of nice, actually.
Quote: terapinedShrug
I smoke and I have no interest in a lounge
I catch a buzz and go play golf
I catch a buzz and go play poker
I catch a buzz and go kayaking
I catch a buzz and go for a bike ride
I catch a buzz and go to a restaurant to satisfy the munchies :-)
I have no interest in catching a buzz and hanging out at some boring lounge
Sure I agree with you when I'm at home. But when you're a visitor in Vegas, you have no place to legally smoke the weed you legally buy. Can't smoke in the casinos, or in your hotel room, or in public. So they serve a very needed role in a touristy area.
Personally weed has kind of an opposite effect on me than it does on most people - I actually get a little fidgety and restless. I like to stand up and pace around. Weed will actually keep me awake, so I have to be careful not to smoke it too close to bedtime.
So to me, it would go really well with gambling. Well, not AP, but craps or BS blackjack.
Sounds dreadful.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.
Me too.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI'm surprised at the current votes in the poll....WoV members 6-2 against smoking lounges? Huh.
Hard to imagine anything other than a nap cafe. Who wants to smoke and then just... lounge?
Call it "40 Quarters and a Nickle". Add some Golden Tee, little TMNT, Street Fighter II... now that's a place'll take your rent money
Quote: FaceHard to imagine anything other than a nap cafe. Who wants to smoke and then just... lounge?
Call it "40 Quarters and a Nickle". Add some Golden Tee, little TMNT, Street Fighter II... now that's a place'll take your rent money
You know, that could work. Sell a $10-$20 Blunt and a roll of tokens, couple of soft drink tickets, a snack for a set price. Pool tables, pinball, arcade video, lounge area with sports tv. Open mic nights, maybe even a poker room, chess and backgammon tables, etc.
Quote: MaxPenWhere's the chess and backgammon games? Said not one pothead ever.😂
I played pothead bridge several times a week in college (then didn't smoke for 30+ years) - we had a great time with it. Don't knock games while high til you've tried it.
Anyway, the idea that a "smoking lounge' has to be any one particular thing is a really limited way to approach the idea.
And the way casinos run, they could change it every six months into something completely different.
Same thing for cigarettes, point where the public picks out their poison, and the revenuer's extract their pound of flesh.
The lounges can't sell pot. They can only offers a place to enjoy your own. The utensils and entertainment they can offer will determine their success. Will people pay to smoke out of a $3,000 bong? Want to get high in a 69 Super Nova? How about getting high in the middle of a comic book shop? Smoke a joint while racking the pool table. Stock the place with a couple coeds and reel in the sheep.
This isn't just for tourist. I think they will get a lot of local support. The green rush is almost here. Be ready.
Quote: MaxPenWhere's the chess and backgammon games? Said not one pothead ever.😂
I love playing complicated strategy games buzzed
Not big on backgammon but know how to play. Yea its strategy but dice are involved so there is a luck element
I love chess, especially with a buzz. All strategy, no luck.
My favorite strategy game to play buzzed is Sid Meir's Civilization. Greatest strategy game ever made
Very complicated which is why I love it. Fantastic game to play while buzzed. Very addictive game. Absolutely love it.
This is why I am a low roller. I don't like gambling but I love playing games. So I play at the cheapest stakes.
Quote: RonCLet them have them in casinos--it is legal to use, so why put too many restrictions on it.
Because pot is still against federal law and casinos don't want to jeopardize their casino license. The feds could shut them down for allowing illegal activity.
Its too bad they don't adopt this attitude when it comes to other shenanigans, such as, putting the occasional smack down on AP's, and not honoring promotions.Quote: DRichBecause pot is still against federal law and casinos don't want to jeopardize their casino license. The feds could shut them down for allowing illegal activity.
I will admit, it seems like they have been doing much better in recent years.
Quote: terapinedShrug
I smoke and I have no interest in a lounge
I catch a buzz and go play golf
I catch a buzz and go play poker
I catch a buzz and go kayaking
I catch a buzz and go for a bike ride
I catch a buzz and go to a restaurant to satisfy the munchies :-)
I have no interest in catching a buzz and hanging out at some boring lounge
I think its a place to enjoy a very comfortable chair, a few games of chess, backgammon, etc.. perhaps some gratis high-quality chocolate in an atmosphere wherein there is no need to slurp booze all the time and the attractive females are not staring at your wallet.
Quote: FleaStiffI think its a place to enjoy a very comfortable chair, a few games of chess, backgammon, etc.. perhaps some gratis high-quality chocolate in an atmosphere wherein there is no need to slurp booze all the time and the attractive females are not staring at your wallet.
I was picturing a cigar den, where they pretty much sit around and just smoke
If they are going to cater to me with food, entertainment and games for a fair price
I'm in :-)
Even at a cigar bar with your own private humidor, you usually can get a very fine Brandy.Quote: terapinedI was picturing a cigar den, where they pretty much sit around and just smoke
If they are going to cater to me with food, entertainment and games for a fair price
I'm in :-)
I think the marijuana bars will have to provide fine chocolates and gourmet coffee free of charge as well the game diversions being free; you might view it as a place to socialize with those who also go kayaking, etc.
Quote: FleaStiffEven at a cigar bar with your own private humidor, you usually can get a very fine Brandy.
I think the marijuana bars will have to provide fine chocolates and gourmet coffee free of charge as well the game diversions being free; you might view it as a place to socialize with those who also go kayaking, etc.
How do you propose they make money?
Quote:Lozott said anyone who consumes any sort of marijuana will have to find a designated driver or another way of getting home.
The company's plan was to have a designated Uber, Lyft, and shuttle service for patrons. The shuttle service will be set to drive customers home to a safe location.
He said they also will increase security and security cameras.
"We're looking if anybody's falling asleep, or having too much. We're going to be increasing our security efforts," Lozott said.
Yeah, I can see pot lounge shuttles (imagine their decor) becoming a common sight on The Strip.
Quote: GialmereIn a followup story, dispensaries are now trying to figure out the safety and security concerns. This KVVU article (briefly) discusses the issue with Acres Cannabis VP Tim Lozott...
Yeah, I can see pot lounge shuttles (imagine their decor) becoming a common sight on The Strip.
Mobile pot lounges.
Or maybe this...
Quote: GialmereHeh, yeah it could be like one of those bicycle bars.
Or maybe this...
Guy goes through all that trouble and money to gussy up his ride and he doesn't spring for locking hubcaps.
I thought I was joking when writing out the poll selections but, in this crazy 21st century, today's joke is tomorrow's reality. It seems Denver will soon vote on legalizing magic mushrooms. (Oregon will as well in 2020.) This will not be for recreation but rather for medicinal use and there are studies to back it up. Still, this is the same road that led the legalization of marijuana so who knows? Maybe the next generation of Vegas tourists will be hanging out in oxygen/hookah/weed/mushroom lounges--no casino or strip club required. Sin City indeed.
Full story at UPI
Quote: GialmereIt seems Denver will soon vote on legalizing magic mushrooms. (Oregon will as well in 2020.) This will not be for recreation but rather for medicinal use and there are studies to back it up.
You can easily over dose on magic mushrooms. In addition, you will pass a point where you start "tripping" which is dangerous to the brain as you may not come back....I hope they defeat this.
Quote: ahiromuI wonder how they monetize it.
Do you also wonder how they monetize strip clubs?
I'm pretty sure it'll be very similar except instead of titties, you're going to have trichomes.
Instead of pussy, you're gonna have brownies.
Instead ass jiggling, you're going to have THC-infused jello-shots.
Advertising where people are getting their product and having people "go on runs" and "take donations" towards "runs" past and future are going to be all under the table.
Dollar bills are going to be flying in the form of "tips" and "donations" and weed will be equally free.
IE: replace "lap dance" with "hitting the nail" and replace "show me your tits" with "take a hit off this spliff" .. and you have the formula. Add in some club-style marketing where you can get your name in lights for providing free product for everyone in the shop (night club style) and you're profiting handily without even having to charge everyone in the "club."
Quote: AhighDo you also wonder how they monetize strip clubs?
I'm pretty sure it'll be very similar except instead of titties, you're going to have trichomes.
Instead of pussy, you're gonna have brownies.
Instead ass jiggling, you're going to have THC-infused jello-shots.
Advertising where people are getting their product and having people "go on runs" and "take donations" towards "runs" past and future are going to be all under the table.
Dollar bills are going to be flying in the form of "tips" and "donations" and weed will be equally free.
IE: replace "lap dance" with "hitting the nail" and replace "show me your tits" with "take a hit off this spliff" .. and you have the formula. Add in some club-style marketing where you can get your name in lights for providing free product for everyone in the shop (night club style) and you're profiting handily without even having to charge everyone in the "club."
Yecch. What a nasty way to go, out of all the fun things a pot palace could be. I sincerely hope you're wrong.
I sure hope you are exaggerating... or is CET's deferred maintenance program worse than it used to be. Or worse, is it the personal hygiene of the players that has declined?Quote: KeyserThe big problem in Vegas is that every hotel now smells like a skunk soaked in cat urine.
Quote: FleaStiffI sure hope you are exaggerating... or is CET's deferred maintenance program worse than it used to be. Or worse, is it the personal hygiene of the players that has declined?
No, he's not exaggerating, sadly. The halls are completely skunked out.
Maybe some brave casino entrepreneur will take a risk and try a non smoking [of any kind] casino in Vegas.
Quote: KeyserThe big problem in Vegas is that every hotel now smells like a skunk soaked in cat urine. It literally makes your eyes water. The smell is overwhelming. Burning/smoking pot should be illegal just based on the smell. However, I have no problem with consumption.
I will add most every intersection to that. I guess, everybody is trying to outdo Cheech&Chong out here
Quote: AhighDo you also wonder how they monetize strip clubs?
I'm pretty sure it'll be very similar except instead of titties, you're going to have trichomes.
Instead of pussy, you're gonna have brownies.
Instead ass jiggling, you're going to have THC-infused jello-shots.
I am pretty sure that they are not allowed to sell any drugs in the lounges,
Quote: NokTangYou can easily over dose on magic mushrooms. In addition, you will pass a point where you start "tripping" which is dangerous to the brain as you may not come back....I hope they defeat this.
Nok, I sure hope your comments reflect outdated data.
Current medical research increasingly suggests magic mushrooms (psilocybin) may be a real "game changer," especially regarding PTSD and other mental health problems faced (especially) by veterans (as well as many others). Here's a fairly recent summary from Wired:
Inside the Push to Legalize Magic Mushrooms for Depression and PTSD
IIRC, I once saw a double-blind study where the psilocybin group responded so much better that they had to stop the study so the "control" group could benefit also. If the positive effects are this striking, we need to continue the research (including care to identify "dangers, if any).
Quote: DRichI am pretty sure that they are not allowed to sell any drugs in the lounges,
I think most lounges will be attached to a dispensary so the sales are simply next door :-)