Shuttle; NO DRIVER

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Many of the workers in companies that moved to Jersey like the stevedores and longshoremen along with manufacturers like Sunshine Biscuits and Nabisco continued to live in New York. Sunshine even ran special buses to Sayreville. Those people, like Jerseyans who work in New York, have to file income taxes in both states. albeit with arbitrary schemes for "credits."

Ever been on the morning ferries or water taxis? The trips from NY to Jersey are almost empty, while the trip back is mostly full. For every one person who lives in NY and commutes to Jersey, there are at least five who do the opposite. Besides, we were talking merchant seamen, not factory workers
Stevadores barely exist anymore. In the late 60s, to mid 70s, any college kid with a pulse could shape up. Now you have thirty year union members shaping. Container ships changed everything. A couple dozen guys can unload a ship that once took hundreds.

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Ever been on the morning ferries or water taxis?

Yes

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The trips from NY to Jersey are almost empty, while the trip back is mostly full.

That is a reflection of the disparate wage scales, as well as geographical dominance. Besides, reverse commuting was never at issue.

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Stevadores barely exist anymore.

For what it's worth, in conformance with Merriam-Webster:
"Largest Terminal Operator and Stevedore in U.S.

Ports America is proud to be the largest terminal operator and stevedore in the United States, operating in more than 42 ports and 80 locations.

With a highly skilled and trained labor force, Ports America has the expertise to manage all types of cargo. Ports America’s terminal operations and stevedoring services include container, bulk, breakbulk and project cargo; world-class cruise terminals; intermodal facilities and quality RoRo operations."

OR

From the Port Authority:

Stevedores

Ceres Terminals Incorporated

Construction & Marine Equipment Co. Inc.

MJ Rudolph/Kinder Morgan

Ports America

Red Hook Container Terminal

Maxwell Goober is the largest buggy whip manufacturer in the United States.
Proof that the buggy whip business is alive and thriving.

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Maxwell Goober is the largest buggy whip manufacturer in the United States.
Proof that the buggy whip business is alive and thriving.

Ha ha. To examine, once again, the original misstatement, here are recent figures about the demise of shipping in the New York region:

"2. New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA

Total Value: $349.2 billion
Local Share: 9.7 percent
Top Trade Region: Europe ($153.9 billion)

The
Port of New York and New Jersey, which spans several marine facilities including the Port Newark-Elizabeth Marine Terminal, is one of the biggest freight assets in the country, cementing the New York metro area’s role as the chief East Coast seaport complex ($185.0 billion). Remarkably, almost the same value of goods ($162.7 billion) flows through the area’s expansive air cargo facilities, including
John F. Kennedy International Airport and
Newark Liberty International Airport. Combined with New York’s enormous amount of global corporate headquarters, New York is the country’s most globally fluent metro area." Brookings