Poker room dealer fired over rake error

So we were talking before a gig today and I heard a poker room employee story. Dealer shorted the rake by $1 on a hand. The state caught it when they reviewed the tape and fined the casino $10,000. Reasoning is this shorts the state's end. Dealer was called in and fired. Dealer had no issues before but was part time.

So we discussed was she fired over $1 or $10,000?

Discuss.

If we are to be pedantic then she was fired because she was part time and there were going to be no repercussions for the casino. If she was full time they would not have been able to fire her but rather give her a final written warning.

More broadly she was fired because the casino incurred a $10,000 fine.

I work in a museum. I trip and spill $5 of stripper on the floor. That's a $5 mistake.

Next day, still working. I trip and spill $5 of stripper on the Mona Lisa.

Still a $5 mistake?

As a one-off $1 mistake? Or was there "further review"? Not enough here to opine... something is missing (maybe a few things).

Quote: 98Clubs

As a one-off $1 mistake? Or was there "further review"? Not enough here to opine... something is missing (maybe a few things).

What I wrote is what I heard. I didn't press for more info.

Quote: AZDuffman

So we were talking before a gig today and I heard a poker room employee story. Dealer shorted the rake by $1 on a hand. The state caught it when they reviewed the tape and fined the casino $10,000. Reasoning is this shorts the state's end. Dealer was called in and fired. Dealer had no issues before but was part time.

So we discussed was she fired over $1 or $10,000?

Discuss.

The fine, and the firing, are about as harsh as I've ever heard of. What state was this in?

There has to be something about this story that we don't know. A $1...I (and i work in the industry) really can't see this happening...unless
this casino has been investigated before and have been issued a warning in the past for the same thing.

As another member said, maybe they looked into it more and her mistake revealed a even BIGGER mess.

where i work if you are part time and can deal a lot of games, you could piss on a customer and everything would be fine. but they love to get rid of full timers.

Quote: ontariodealer

where i work if you are part time and can deal a lot of games, you could piss on a customer and everything would be fine. but they love to get rid of full timers.

Less money spent for benefits...

Quote: Face

Next day, still working. I trip and spill $5 of stripper on the Mona Lisa.

I once tipped a stripper $5, and her name was Mouna Lisa. Strange coincidence.

Quote: AZDuffman

So we were talking before a gig today and I heard a poker room employee story. Dealer shorted the rake by $1 on a hand. The state caught it when they reviewed the tape and fined the casino $10,000. Reasoning is this shorts the state's end. Dealer was called in and fired. Dealer had no issues before but was part time.

So we discussed was she fired over $1 or $10,000?

Discuss.

Neither. She was fired for poor job performance, the amount of money being irrelevant. I'd love to hear the whole story.

Quote: AZDuffman

Dealer shorted the rake by $1 on a hand.

Meaning she took the dollar or she did some bad math and left the "extra" dollar in the pot for the players to take?

Poor skills? Heck. Ain't a poker dealer alive who hasn't forgotten the rake entirely sometime in his life. One man forgot to take the rake during his AUDITION in front of poker room executives posing as players, he still got the job though! So what is one lousy dollar in rake money. ALL those poker room executives know dealers will sometimes forget rakes or miscalculate rakes. Its usually not even a written warning, much less a discharge issue.

Ten grand fine is excessive.

Firing a part timer is fun and profitable, makes the others work harder.

I believe in Vegas a man took a poker competition chip of absolutely no dollar value whatsoever and they fired him on the spot. He is said to have thrown it at the HR type who processed him out.

Happens.

Quote: Face

I work in a museum. I trip and spill $5 of stripper on the floor. That's a $5 mistake.

Next day, still working. I trip and spill $5 of stripper on the Mona Lisa.

Still a $5 mistake?

Well it is obvious you are clumsy and an accident waiting to happen.
So, it is either make you management, or send you packing.

Quote: RaleighCraps

Well it is obvious you are clumsy and an accident waiting to happen.
So, it is either make you management, or send you packing.

HA! XD

I'm a bigot, you're a bigot, everyone's a bigot....

Who knows? I know that when the poker deaerl was fired she probably went to a bar and got a few free drinks and the bartender agreed with whatever viewpoint she had about whose fault it was. I think she has a right to allocate the blame as she sees fit.

Heck, if the casino had given her a second chance can you imagine an employee who would not know she was already on thin ice and had to be careful.

What stupid bureaucrat thought a ten grand fine would help the situation instead of letting the casino devote more time to training and to rest breaks and better scheduling for part timers whose lives are subject to outrageous whims of "The Pencil". You think its not most likely the fault of the Pencil?

Poker dealers are the only uniformed dealers allowed to have shirt pockets. So they are already trusted far more than the average casino dealer is. So why the ten grand fine? Is the next employee they hire going to better at math or just more desperate for the job?

That half blind volcano lover damaged some priceless artwork. The Gaming Board didn't step in an insist he be fired.

Let me get this straight....the dealer pulled in a rake that was $1 short of what it should have been? It's not as if the dealer was stealing other than depriving the house of its income. I would venture that happens a zillion times on craps and roulette during the course of a day?

BTW I don't know much about poker. Is the amount of a rake the same regardless of the money in play? If yes, what is the amount or is there a formula?

Quote: Riva

Let me get this straight....the dealer pulled in a rake that was $1 short of what it should have been? It's not as if the dealer was stealing other than depriving the house of its income. I would venture that happens a zillion times on craps and roulette during the course of a day?

Yes, you have it correct. Rake was $1 short. But on point 2 you are incorrect, the dealer did deprive the house of income. In theory she could have been shorting the rake for favored players. The find came because she took food of the plate of the Commonwealth.

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BTW I don't know much about poker. Is the amount of a rake the same regardless of the money in play? If yes, what is the amount or is there a formula?

Different in different houses, here IIRC it is $1 per 10 to a max of $5.