Vegas Nightclubs 101
May 10th, 2011 at 8:54:27 PM
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I've been nagging Jim Morrison for an article on the nightclubs here for months, and he just finished. Please check out his article, which I titled Vegas Nightclubs 101. I consider Jim an expert on getting into clubs as quickly, easily, and inexpensively as possible, as well as whom to tip and how much once you get inside. This is stuff everyone should know who is a nightclub novice, like me, or just wants to go.
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May 10th, 2011 at 10:19:37 PM
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Great and informative article. My compliments to Jim, and nie to know I now have a go to guy for the club scene.
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:05:33 AM
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I read this review so I joined. It was well written although I do have several comments and questions if you don't mind. I haven't been to a LV nightclub yet but I plan on going. I've been to many in a lot of other cities. None like these.
First I see the point of reserving a table through a host and it looks like the way to go, but $400-$600 a bottle + tips? Can the bottle be removed if it's not finished?
What about conversation, can you hear one another or is it necessary to wait for breaks in the music? I've been to both types.
I'm a gambler and I have hosts at several places on the strip. Are these hosts more powerful than the nightclub hosts for getting you set up, or do they just hook you up with one and leave it at that?
Can you reserve a table without a bottle? (Not that I would, i'm just interested)
Are these nightclubs filled every night and if so, at those prices and with the amount of tipping that you suggest, how is there a problem with the economy and foreclosures in LV?
Thanks!
First I see the point of reserving a table through a host and it looks like the way to go, but $400-$600 a bottle + tips? Can the bottle be removed if it's not finished?
What about conversation, can you hear one another or is it necessary to wait for breaks in the music? I've been to both types.
I'm a gambler and I have hosts at several places on the strip. Are these hosts more powerful than the nightclub hosts for getting you set up, or do they just hook you up with one and leave it at that?
Can you reserve a table without a bottle? (Not that I would, i'm just interested)
Are these nightclubs filled every night and if so, at those prices and with the amount of tipping that you suggest, how is there a problem with the economy and foreclosures in LV?
Thanks!
May 11th, 2011 at 5:21:03 AM
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Quote: JimbodaBimbo
Are these nightclubs filled every night and if so, at those prices and with the amount of tipping that you suggest, how is there a problem with the economy and foreclosures in LV?
LOL. Some would say that the nightclubs are what caused the downturn in Las Vegas. Casinos want gamblers but the nightclub wants party people who focus on fashions, fools (hollywood types) and hype. So the middle aged gambler now has to deal with a bunch of drunken yuppies trampling them to get to some trendy club wherein hustling tips is the rule, Paris Hilton is the topic of conversation and women seem interested in each other.
My understanding is that you are generally not going to be allowed to camp out at a table just because you still have booze left in the bottle.
Casino hosts have clout in the casino and the hotel, but all they do is contact the clubs. Most clubs are not owned by the casino and are operated by party specialists.
May 11th, 2011 at 5:42:17 AM
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Quote: JimbodaBimbo
First I see the point of reserving a table through a host and it looks like the way to go, but $400-$600 a bottle + tips? Can the bottle be removed if it's not finished?
Do you mean at the end of the night? Yes, when lights come on if your bottle isn't finished then it's gone. Some clubs (mainly at the Palms) will allow hotel guests to have security take the bottle to the guests room. I don't know the particulars but have been told people can't walk out with a bottle for legal reasons.
Quote: JimbodaBimboWhat about conversation, can you hear one another or is it necessary to wait for breaks in the music? I've been to both types.
Clubs are generally loud, I'm used to it and can carry on a conversation. It's not really easy to talk to someone across a table but if you're sitting next to them you shouldn't have a problem.
Quote: JimbodaBimbo
I'm a gambler and I have hosts at several places on the strip. Are these hosts more powerful than the nightclub hosts for getting you set up, or do they just hook you up with one and leave it at that?
They are not more powerful, they just will set up your reservation. If you're RFB then they'll let the club know you're important and even comp your bottles. But you have to be a pretty good customer of the casino to get that kinda treatment.
Quote: JimbodaBimboCan you reserve a table without a bottle? (Not that I would, i'm just interested)
No. They make money on the price of the bottle. I guess theoretically you could offer to pay $600 for a table with no bottle if you don't drink or something. I've never heard of that though.
Quote: JimbodaBimboAre these nightclubs filled every night and if so, at those prices and with the amount of tipping that you suggest, how is there a problem with the economy and foreclosures in LV?
Pretty much all the major clubs will be at or near capacity on Friday and Saturday nights. They aren't open 7 days a week, generally they are open 3 or 4 days. Non-weekends are hit or miss depending on the club and who the DJ is etc. XS was always packed on their industry night which is Monday until Marquee opened up and not it's still going to be a good crowd but not totally filled.
Nightclubs make money, lots of it. Waitresses make a ton of money, bartenders etc do pretty good too. But there aren't enough nightlife jobs to effect the economy as a whole in Vegas.
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May 11th, 2011 at 5:49:07 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffLOL. Some would say that the nightclubs are what caused the downturn in Las Vegas. Casinos want gamblers but the nightclub wants party people who focus on fashions, fools (hollywood types) and hype. So the middle aged gambler now has to deal with a bunch of drunken yuppies trampling them to get to some trendy club wherein hustling tips is the rule, Paris Hilton is the topic of conversation and women seem interested in each other.
My understanding is that you are generally not going to be allowed to camp out at a table just because you still have booze left in the bottle.
Casino hosts have clout in the casino and the hotel, but all they do is contact the clubs. Most clubs are not owned by the casino and are operated by party specialists.
The effect on casino business is pretty small I think. You're going to hear complaints at local oriented places like the Palms. Middle aged gamblers also have to deal with crowds leaving O or Celine or whatever. And I'm not sure the last time Paris Hilton was the topic of conversation anywhere lol.
You're buying real estate and the table should be yours for the night. As long as you have booze in the bottle it is definitely yours. Some clubs will on busy night try to re-sell a table if you have finished your bottles and aren't ordering drinks. I think this practice is bullshit but it still happens, mainly to unconnected tourists who bought one bottle and don't know any better when told they have to leave now. If you have a table somewhere and they tell you the table is being sold to someone else because your bottle is gone I would get your host on the phone immediately because that's bullshit.
A lot of clubs are owned more by the casinos nowadays. Palms completely owns their clubs now (til a few months ago they only had 50% ownership then George forced out Michael Morton), Steve Wynn owns majority of his clubs also. Light Group is independent but closely associated with MGM Resorts. Angel Management controls pretty much everything else lately.
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May 11th, 2011 at 7:27:29 AM
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May 11th, 2011 at 7:58:23 AM
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I'm sorry, Jim. This is one of those few subjects I just can't get interested in. As far as I'm concerned, nightclubs remain the nearest thing to hell on earth. I dislike any place with loud music, and I don't dance, but worst of all is the attitude at these places. The way it reads as far as I got in your article, nightclubs make it like they're doing you a huge favor letting you in, and then proceed to shake every last dime off your purse.
What would be interesting is an explanation of what drives literally millions of supplicants to submit to such mistreatment and gouging, and to do do willingly.
What would be interesting is an explanation of what drives literally millions of supplicants to submit to such mistreatment and gouging, and to do do willingly.
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May 11th, 2011 at 8:24:32 AM
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So, if I'm an average Joe, I have to wait in line for an hour, and tip the doorman $20 just to get inside, then pay $40 cover charge and if I want to sit at all, I have to pay $600(!) for a single bottle of whatever that I could get in any store for $30 (article never says what size this ridiculous bottle is, but for $600, it better be a 2-gal jug served to me by a topless Brazilian highschool girl), then the server-girl can do shots with me of my prized booze (those shots are probably worth $25 each). If I'm too shy to meet girls, I can tip security-guy $100 to bring some to me. But my favorite part of this article is where I'm also supposed to tip security $20 to let me go to the front of the bathroom line. And people just think this scam is okay, part of a fun night out to get VIP treatment. So retarded.
Even if I were a bazillionaire, I couldn't bring myself to pay these prices.
Recipe for wealth = Buy something for a nickle, sell it for a dollar and make it fun and habit-forming, and the idiots of the world will make you rich.
Even if I were a bazillionaire, I couldn't bring myself to pay these prices.
Recipe for wealth = Buy something for a nickle, sell it for a dollar and make it fun and habit-forming, and the idiots of the world will make you rich.
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May 11th, 2011 at 8:26:35 AM
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May 11th, 2011 at 8:36:28 AM
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Quote: zippyboyRecipe for wealth = Buy something for a nickle, sell it for a dollar and make it fun and habit-forming, and the idiots of the world will make you rich.
That's just it: how is a place with noise louder than a jet engine, poor illumination, obnoxious service, the shaking for tips, the high prices, the snobby clientele and all the rest supposed to be fun?
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May 11th, 2011 at 8:54:33 AM
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Quote: NareedWhat would be interesting is an explanation of what drives literally millions of supplicants to submit to such mistreatment and gouging, and to do do willingly.
Jim never said that the nightclubs are for everybody. You can tell they cater to the under 30 crowd. Some people just like go get dressed up, dance, listen to loud music, and at least have the illusion of being a VIP. Let them have their fun.
As far as the money, I think the cost is on par with other forms of entertainment like a high-end show, a fancy dinner, or most forms of gambling.
If the clubs were not quite so loud, and played more 70s and 80s music, I might go more often. Jim suggested a place at the Rio that might suit me, for I forget the name.
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May 11th, 2011 at 9:00:23 AM
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Quote: NareedWhat would be interesting is an explanation of what drives literally millions of supplicants to submit to such mistreatment and gouging, and to do do willingly.
I go to clubs (or used to in my younger days) because I like the music. But I'd never, ever deal with all the BS surrounding Vegas clubs. Usually you can see a top-name DJ for well under $100 for the whole night, anywhere else in the world. For the amount of money a night in Vegas costs it's about as cheap to fly to London and go to Fabric. Which I have done!
May 11th, 2011 at 9:43:21 AM
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Quote: WizardJim never said that the nightclubs are for everybody.
It's soccer all voer again: they should not be for anybody :P
Quote:You can tell they cater to the under 30 crowd.
I've been under 30 (imagine that) :) I hated the palces then too. More than I do now, because at least now nobody expects me to subject myself to that kind of torture.
Quote:Some people just like go get dressed up, dance, listen to loud music, and at least have the illusion of being a VIP. Let them have their fun.
I'll grant the dressing-up part and the VIP pretense (though the latter is stupid; and begging to be let in doesn't strike me as a VIP-ish thing to do). I'll even concede that, in their own minds, the writhing they do might be construed as dancing. But whatever the hell it is they pump at just short of permanent ear damage in one dose is not music. Even if it were music to begin with, it becomes noise when played so loud.
Quote:If the clubs were not quite so loud, and played more 70s and 80s music, I might go more often.
I think that means we almost agree.
Quote:Jim suggested a place at the Rio that might suit me, for I forget the name.
Good. I always knew forgetfulness can be a kind of defense mechanism :P
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May 11th, 2011 at 9:47:41 AM
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My only experience going to a night club in Las Vegas was Pure at Ceasar's Palace.
I was in Las Vegas for a friend's birthday party, and after having dinner at Nobu's at the Hard Rock Hotel, a group of 8 of us took a limo over. It was a Friday night on Labor Day weekend, and let me tell you it was extremely crowded. One of our group, who was well connected in Las Vegas, had made arrangement to secure us a table, but due to the day and our premium roped off location near a dance floor, we were required to buy 3 bottles at $1,000 per bottle. This was considered to be "cheap" because the rack rate was $1,500 a bottle and 5 bottles minimum for our location for that evening.
For me, the whole night club scene was just too loud for my taste, but it was definately worth the experience. The coolest person was Mike the security guard who was assigned to our table. Mike was absolutely huge! He must have been 6'5" and 300 lbs of muscle. Mike was the type of person who took "bouncing" as a serious job and probably lifted weights every second he wasn't working. However, he turned out to be a great guy and a very intelligent young man. My wife and I really enjoyed hearing his stories about working there.
Mike informed us to let him know if we would like to invite people to our private table to join us and he would let them into the roped off area. My wife joked, what happens when we get tired of them, and Mike smile and promised that he would "remove them". So I asked if we could invite people in just to throw them out after a few minutes, and Mike grinned and said that would be fine. Ah, the power of having your own giant man/bodyguard/bouncer for a night.
Personally, I thought it was a waste of money, since I don't drink at all. However, having a table was definately nice to retreat to after dancing or walking around people watching. If I ever do it again, I would probably go on a non-holiday weekend or mid week when there were a few less people.
I wondered if I could hire extra security for my table for the evening. It would be fun to have 6 or 7 guys in suits standing around warding people away and people trying to peer around them to see who's sitting there.
Still, for $3,000+ I would rather go have an expensive dinner with my friends.
I was in Las Vegas for a friend's birthday party, and after having dinner at Nobu's at the Hard Rock Hotel, a group of 8 of us took a limo over. It was a Friday night on Labor Day weekend, and let me tell you it was extremely crowded. One of our group, who was well connected in Las Vegas, had made arrangement to secure us a table, but due to the day and our premium roped off location near a dance floor, we were required to buy 3 bottles at $1,000 per bottle. This was considered to be "cheap" because the rack rate was $1,500 a bottle and 5 bottles minimum for our location for that evening.
For me, the whole night club scene was just too loud for my taste, but it was definately worth the experience. The coolest person was Mike the security guard who was assigned to our table. Mike was absolutely huge! He must have been 6'5" and 300 lbs of muscle. Mike was the type of person who took "bouncing" as a serious job and probably lifted weights every second he wasn't working. However, he turned out to be a great guy and a very intelligent young man. My wife and I really enjoyed hearing his stories about working there.
Mike informed us to let him know if we would like to invite people to our private table to join us and he would let them into the roped off area. My wife joked, what happens when we get tired of them, and Mike smile and promised that he would "remove them". So I asked if we could invite people in just to throw them out after a few minutes, and Mike grinned and said that would be fine. Ah, the power of having your own giant man/bodyguard/bouncer for a night.
Personally, I thought it was a waste of money, since I don't drink at all. However, having a table was definately nice to retreat to after dancing or walking around people watching. If I ever do it again, I would probably go on a non-holiday weekend or mid week when there were a few less people.
I wondered if I could hire extra security for my table for the evening. It would be fun to have 6 or 7 guys in suits standing around warding people away and people trying to peer around them to see who's sitting there.
Still, for $3,000+ I would rather go have an expensive dinner with my friends.
May 11th, 2011 at 9:49:20 AM
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I had also wondered about Ultralounges. As I understand it, they are quieter and have no pounding music. Do they work the same way? Maybe we can have someone comment about the differences with ultralounges vs. night clubs.
May 11th, 2011 at 10:04:00 AM
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The women are hot I'll agree with that, but then it's all downhill from there. Someone said the rap/hip-hop music offends them but as any civilized person already knows, that's not even music. It's too loud, the DJ's probably are yelling into the microphones, and I 100% hate having to shout to talk to someone right next to me while they shout back as loud as they can and you pretend to hear what they're saying. If that's what all the vegas clubs are like along with the outrageous prices then Jim talked me out of trying it. Thank you for starting this thread Mr Wiz.
My 1st question would then be how and why someone, anyone, would want to subject themself to this abuse. My next question is, for locals who do, what's it like driving home after pouring down 1/4 of a bottle of booze or more? Good grief!
My 1st question would then be how and why someone, anyone, would want to subject themself to this abuse. My next question is, for locals who do, what's it like driving home after pouring down 1/4 of a bottle of booze or more? Good grief!
May 11th, 2011 at 10:16:56 AM
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Fantastic writeup. I've only done the club thing a couple times: Ghostbar (via general admission) and Tabu (table/bottles). I agree that if you plan to go to the club and drink a fair amount then the bottle service price really isn't all that bad. Personally I'd rather blow my money at the tables but it was fun to do once.
The one thing I noticed is that your personal waitress keeps your glasses full to keep you from milking the bottle for more time.
The one thing I noticed is that your personal waitress keeps your glasses full to keep you from milking the bottle for more time.
May 11th, 2011 at 10:26:42 AM
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Yeah, pheremone saturated dancefloors. Local women must love it.Quote: JimbodaBimboThe women are hot I'll agree with that, but then it's all downhill from there!
Fancy Dress? One might say its more Fancy but barely dressed. The Edwardian Ball is about as fancy dress as you can get these days. All those girls in authentic corsets and wearing reproductions that are historically accurate. Still the admission charge for the Edwardian Ball and various Dressed to the Nines evenings wouldn't buy a thimble of booze in a Vegas nightclub. An Edwardian Ball will have anywhere from six to fourteen acts appearing with a wide variety of entertainment available. The only thing most Vegas nightclubs offer is some DJ with his own publicity agent and five times the price of admission.
Drinking a quarter of a bottle of booze? Have you visited a dormitory recently and seen a college girl having a margarita? Its a very easy drink: A bottle of margarita mix in one hand and a bottle of booze in the other... take alternate swigs while listening to loud music. The younger set are putting away far more booze than we did. And that ad campaign suggesting that drinking a particular brand of vodka makes a girl want to give head may not be far off the mark: trendy shops now sell knee pads as a fashion accessory.
May 11th, 2011 at 10:42:27 AM
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Quote: gamblerMy only experience going to a night club in Las Vegas was Pure at Ceasar's Palace....
but due to the day and our premium roped off location near a dance floor, we were required to buy 3 bottles at $1,000 per bottle. This was considered to be "cheap" because the rack rate was $1,500 a bottle and 5 bottles minimum for our location for that evening.
Personally, I thought it was a waste of money, ...
Still, for $3,000+ I would rather go have an expensive dinner with my friends.
$1500 per bottle with a 5 bottle minimum? And then you think $3000 for one dinner with a few friends is a good deal??? For $3000, I could fly 4 people roundtrip to NYC for dinner at Peter Luger's or I could take 100 friends out for AYCE sushi.
I played with a guy last week who proudly told the table he had just come from dinner where he had the best steak he'd ever had. When pressed, he told us it was $80. For a single steak, $80. Lettuce wedge salad was $12, baked potato was $9. "But it was a big potato, and it came with butter", he said. For $80, that steak better be covered in foie gras, caviar and served with solid gold utensils. What has the world come to when people shell out $7500 for 5 bottles of vodka and $12 for a wedge of iceberg, and then brag about it? Don't you realize anyone who hears the story thinks you're a fool for a) overpaying, b) yet thinking it was a good deal because it's part of the Vegas Experience?
$4/gal gas not high enough? Come to Las Vegas where we'll charge you $80/gallon, but we'll blare cRap music at you while flirty bikini-clad hotties fill your tank. Thank you for your patronage, that'll be $1400. Next!
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May 11th, 2011 at 11:06:58 AM
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Quote: zippyboyWhat has the world come to when people shell out $7500 for 5 bottles of vodka and $12 for a wedge of iceberg, and then brag about it? Don't you realize anyone who hears the story thinks you're a fool for a) overpaying, b) yet thinking it was a good deal because it's part of the Vegas Experience?
It's all relative, Zippyboy. I personally wouldn't shell out $7,500 for table service at a night club, but on the flipside, I have lost much more then that at a single evening playing craps. And yes, I would rather spend $3,000 for a dinner of 10 people. $300 a person isn't that much money when you count wine, drinks, food, and dessert. I don't have to spend that kind of money to enjoy myself, but once in a while it is nice.
BTW, I have eaten at Peter Luger's before I really enjoyed the steak there.
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May 11th, 2011 at 11:18:24 AM
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Has anyone who goes to these clubs to look at and-or pick up women (I'll bet it's mostly looking with stories to the contrary) thought of just getting a cute hooker, taking her out for a nice dinner, then back to the room for some music you like along with a dose of around the world in 80 ways, instead of the crazy overpriced nightclub scene in vegas? Sounds a lot cheaper, more comfortable, much more enjoyable, and you don't have to put up with a crowd of obnoxious people.
May 11th, 2011 at 11:43:40 AM
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I think the lesson we can all take is that it makes all sorts keep the world turning around.
I also would like to know about the Ultra Lounges. Though I'm much more bar person in general.
I also would like to know about the Ultra Lounges. Though I'm much more bar person in general.
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May 11th, 2011 at 11:43:59 AM
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Quote: zippyboyWhat has the world come to when people shell out $7500 for 5 bottles of vodka and $12 for a wedge of iceberg, and then brag about it?
It hasn't come to. it's been there a while.
I remember an odl Dave Berg strip on MAD back in the early 80s. This woman was bragging about her million dollar home, her hundred grand boat, her $50,000 car, etc. At the end someone tells her she needs a "$300 an hour psychiatrist." :D
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May 11th, 2011 at 11:49:35 AM
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Quote: JimbodaBimboHas anyone who goes to these clubs to look at and-or pick up women (I'll bet it's mostly looking with stories to the contrary) thought of just getting a cute hooker, taking her out for a nice dinner, then back to the room for some music you like along with a dose of around the world in 80 ways, instead of the crazy overpriced nightclub scene in vegas? Sounds a lot cheaper, more comfortable, much more enjoyable, and you don't have to put up with a crowd of obnoxious people.
I was asking Jim about this. He said that your odds of picking up women are very correlated to your proximity to the stage and size of your table, which are also very correlated to how much you have to pay. Otherwise, I'm about the last man on earth you should seek advice from about picking up women.
I'm also not the best person to ask about getting hookers, but I do hear a lot second and third hand about that. Any hooker would just charge you more for the dinner and music. They go pretty much by time, and it is fine with them to just get right down to business.
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May 11th, 2011 at 12:03:45 PM
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Quote: NareedAs far as I'm concerned, casinos remain the nearest thing to hell on earth. I dislike any place with loud noise, and I don't gamble, but worst of all is the attitude at these places. The way it reads as far as I got in your article, casinos make it like they're doing you a huge favor letting you in, and then proceed to shake every last dime off your purse.
What would be interesting is an explanation of what drives literally millions of supplicants to submit to such mistreatment and gouging, and to do do willingly.
To each their own.
I did change "nightclubs" to "casinos" in your quote to illustrate that hell to some is heaven to others.
May 11th, 2011 at 12:48:35 PM
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Quote: kpTo each their own.
I did change "nightclubs" to "casinos" in your quote to illustrate that hell to some is heaven to others.
You shouldn't change a post you're quoting.
Aside from that, most casinos don't pump in noise loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage over the short term, they don't make you beg to get in, they don't charge for every little thing, nor do they shake your money lose. Sure, you're likely to lose all your money, but you have a chance to walk away with their money, too.
No doubt there are people who can make the case as to why they don't like casinos. But then let them make their own case. There's no call nor need to hijack my post, and less so to do it badly.
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May 11th, 2011 at 2:30:57 PM
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Thanks for the article Jim! I enjoyed it. The club scene is totally not for me, so thanks to you, I feel like I have a better understanding of the massive lines snaking through the hotels.
I wonder if the staff has the option to wear hearing protection? The regular and constant exposure to high pressure sound can't be good for the eardrums.
I wonder if the staff has the option to wear hearing protection? The regular and constant exposure to high pressure sound can't be good for the eardrums.
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May 11th, 2011 at 2:54:36 PM
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I've been an amateur clubber compared to Jim though not in vegas. Looks like he's a regular. Anyone else here frequent those places? Whenever I see the lines or hear the booming base from the clubs up in my room at 3am, I've always thought it was throngs of local gals going in to meet rich hotel visitors or surprise jackpot winners who'll put up with just about any abuse to play the get-laid game. It seems too easy to meet women all over town for someone who lives there, rather than throw so much money away at the clubs. (An outsider's view.)
May 11th, 2011 at 3:24:46 PM
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Quote: Nareed
What would be interesting is an explanation of what drives literally millions of supplicants to submit to such mistreatment and gouging, and to do do willingly.
If you like clubbing, party, drinking, dancing it's the best environment in the world for that. In my opinion guys go and spend tons of money because the girls partying in Vegas are some of the hottest there are. It's that simple. If you convinced hot girls to hang out and get drunk in the Keno lounge then I'm sure you'd quickly have a line of guys willing to pay to get in there.
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:24:50 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaI wonder if the staff has the option to wear hearing protection? The regular and constant exposure to high pressure sound can't be good for the eardrums.
I should think so. They can't hear each other or the customers anyway, so why not?
Not that it would help much, BTW. The foam or wax earplugs that make up hearing protection are meant for quieter environments, like facotry floors and airport tarmacs. Nightclubs are louder than that.
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:26:23 PM
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Quote: gofaster87To clarify things. If you request bottle svc you don't have to wait in any line. Bottle service is above all else. Just walk up to a host at the entrance and tell him you want to set up a table and will not have to worry about the line and in many places you wont have to worry about cover.
I can't think of a single club where you would worry about cover if you do bottles. As I mentioned in the article however, there is a table line and at places like XS it can get long. A good host will pull you out of line and get you to your table with no wait.
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:31:06 PM
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Quote: gamblerI had also wondered about Ultralounges. As I understand it, they are quieter and have no pounding music. Do they work the same way? Maybe we can have someone comment about the differences with ultralounges vs. night clubs.
Ultralounges are slightly lower key nightclubs and honestly it's tough to tell the difference sometimes. Ghost Bar is billed as an ultralounge yet the music is louder in my opinion than a lot of nightclubs. Playboy Club is a good ultralounge where the music isn't too loud and you can talk a lot easier, they also have gaming. Getting into an ultralounge or getting a table works the same way. Bottle prices are generally the same, although at less popular places you might find bottles starting around $300 before tax and tip.
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:35:57 PM
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I wonder if the staff has the option to wear hearing protection? The regular and constant exposure to high pressure sound can't be good for the eardrums.
There are OSHA regulations that require them to use hearing protection. One club that I won't name used to have a signal from the DJ if anyone official came in that could check this. Since an employee could be written up or fired you'd see bartenders scrambling for their earplugs as soon as the DJ made the signal.
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:38:50 PM
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Quote: JimMorrisonIf you like clubbing, party, drinking, dancing it's the best environment in the world for that.
Sure. I can think of good environments for getting high and drunk, too. Oh, wait... :P
Quote:In my opinion guys go and spend tons of money because the girls partying in Vegas are some of the hottest there are. It's that simple. If you convinced hot girls to hang out and get drunk in the Keno lounge then I'm sure you'd quickly have a line of guys willing to pay to get in there.
It's all seems shallow and meaningless. The girls go to meet rich guys, the boys probably get what they deserve. Besides in a palce where communication is difficult if not outright impossible, what can you learn about anyone you meet there? So you get hot girlsand rich guys, sure. And so?
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May 11th, 2011 at 3:43:38 PM
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Quote: NareedSure. I can think of good environments for getting high and drunk, too. Oh, wait... :P
LOL getting high doesn't fly at clubs. My friend Tim had his 40th birthday party in Vegas a few months ago. Most of his friends that came to town are not serious partiers and rarely make it to Vegas at all. He wanted to do the party at Studio 54 which is a decent place but nowhere near the popularity of other clubs. I think he bought something like 6 bottles and I got a few more comped. This was by far the biggest table 54 had seen all week and they went out of their way to make everyone happy. Then about 30 minutes into the night Tim's brother lit up a joint and started to smoke. He was genuinely shocked when security told him they were really sorry but he was going to have to leave. He thought if you're spending that much money then smoking a joint was absolutely acceptable!
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May 11th, 2011 at 4:02:32 PM
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Quote: JimMorrisonThen about 30 minutes into the night Tim's brother lit up a joint and started to smoke. He was genuinely shocked when security told him they were really sorry but he was going to have to leave.
There are three possible reasons here:
1) He was making himslef slightly less impaired than by getting drunk
2) He was smoking, which these days ranks lower than torturing small animals or firing live ammunition in a crowded space.
3) Pot's illegal.
I think the first two reasons rank higher.
How many patrons are thrown out for popping pills? I bet it's damn few. I bet there are no cameras in the restrooms, either, and that people shoot heroin and snort coke there too. I've seen people come out of night clubs, a lot of them were high.
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May 11th, 2011 at 4:23:23 PM
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Quote: Nareed
How many patrons are thrown out for popping pills? I bet it's damn few. I bet there are no cameras in the restrooms, either, and that people shoot heroin and snort coke there too. I've seen people come out of night clubs, a lot of them were high.
I'm not denying that drugs are done in clubs, casinos and a million other places. But most clubs (exceptions are places like Vanity that recently was busted by Gaming for, among other things, security selling drugs to undercovers) take a tough stance on drugs. Sure it's still gonna go on and yeah if a guy is spending $50,000 on bottles everyone is going to look the other way when he blows a few lines. For the average person though you'll probably get caught, especially in the bathroom where the bathroom attendants are pretty vigilant on that.
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May 11th, 2011 at 4:27:28 PM
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Quote: JimMorrisonI'm not denying that drugs are done in clubs, casinos and a million other places. But most clubs (exceptions are places like Vanity that recently was busted by Gaming for, among other things, security selling drugs to undercovers) take a tough stance on drugs.
As tough as casinos take on problem gambling and gambling addiction?
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May 11th, 2011 at 4:29:30 PM
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Interesting article, though I will never use it. Always hated the nightclub scene. I hate anyplace loud and hate dancing, period. If I had been old enough to hit clubs in the 80s when they played music, maybe. $500 per bottle is a lot of money not available to me in the poker room. Even if someone offered to pay my way and let me walk right in, fugheddabaddit. Perhaps I was born old?
But again, I like any article that shows how to beat the system.
But again, I like any article that shows how to beat the system.
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May 11th, 2011 at 4:39:13 PM
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Quote: NareedAs tough as casinos take on problem gambling and gambling addiction?
Haha touche
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May 11th, 2011 at 4:54:23 PM
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May 11th, 2011 at 6:17:43 PM
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I know Jim is the expert on clubs in vegas but he doesn't seem to be able to support any of the many negatives people are coming up with. I think it's a niche market for people who aren't comfortable meeting possible dates in most other ways. As someone commented, it doesn't make much sense having a group of honeys coming over to your table if you can't hear them and they respond by pretending to hear you shout at the top of your lungs. I don't like the tip-for-everything mentality either. Never ran into that anywhere else. Normal tipping is fine, but I thought PacMan Jones wrote the review for a moment.
May 11th, 2011 at 6:33:51 PM
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Quote: gofaster87Who said anything about a meaningful relationship.
I would love to be able to see the attendance figures immediately before and immediately after the Club Rehab episode wherein a guy was caught inserting a key card into several hotel room doors and had to explain that he had left a girl tied up while he went to get condoms but had forgotten her room number. When security asked him the girl's last name his response was "we didn't get that far".
Trade shows, nightclubs, pool parties ... they all feature opportunities and I doubt anyone really is thinking about a meaningful relationship.
May 11th, 2011 at 6:37:35 PM
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Quote: FleaStiff
Trade shows, nightclubs, pool parties ... they all feature opportunities and I doubt anyone really is thinking about a meaningful relationship.
I've always said if I was married I would never let my wife travel to Vegas without me. I have seen far too many women cheat on their husbands or boyfriends out here. Don't get me wrong, I've taken quite a few of them up on it but I always feel bad after.
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May 11th, 2011 at 6:42:24 PM
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Quote: gofaster87I went to the clubs to meet hot chicks and get laid.
So it is shallow and meaningless. Plus the drugs and alcohol afford new and exciting opportunities for VD and AIDS.
Oh, well. Someone has to run for the Darwin Awards.
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May 11th, 2011 at 6:57:02 PM
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Quote: JimMorrisonI'm not denying that drugs are done in clubs, ..... especially in the bathroom where the bathroom attendants are pretty vigilant on that.
Like happened to Bruno Mars at Hard Rock last year. Guess he forgot to tip his restroom attendant, or share his stash of booger sugar with him.
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May 11th, 2011 at 7:01:15 PM
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The clubs are definitely not my kind of scene. I'd much rather drop hundreds of dollars on renting a cabana for the day at one of the nicer pools. The music isn't as loud, the drinks are cheaper, the women are wearing slightly less clothing, you can swim, get a message, and get a tan too!
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