Discussion about the Suspension List
Quote: tomlaWhat's the real reason? Are you disappointed that everybody you approached behind the scenes at another site with the request to irritate egalite/johno were ignored, you are how old exactly? It appears old habits die hard or maybe it's a cultural thing, +5.
I never did that. Again you got the wrong person. Plus why bring things happening outside of WOV onto here? Maybe you should head back to the other sites since all you did since showing up here is focusing on EvenBob and now me. Also you never truly explained yourself onto why you pulled that Egalite IDs stunt way back when and most probably you made me took the heat for it. Now I know who it is. First I thought it was garnabby since he likes to pull this kind of prank at the defunct BF, Baclabs and Betselections. Impersonating others and somehow able to successfully find a scapegoat to take the hit. And I am going to throw that back at you..... and you are how old exactly?
These Gambler Glen folks and their ongoing issues. No actually it is this whole darn online baccarat community. AxelWolf et al are correct on this one. Thank goodness WOV is not keen on baccarat or else this place would be polluted by you folks since you have all destroyed a few.
All of this continuing just because I left egalite/johno's board and didn't share my ideas privately with you folks and you all find ways to gang up on me even until this very day. Looks like still to this day those baccarat tables are raping you day in and day out every time you show up. You guys wouldn't be teaming up with your usual rants if you were successful at it. Thank goodness I was cautious and kept my mouth shut. You guys are worst than all those system sellers that are still out there.
Yeah tomla why even show up here since all you do is target people for that sole reason.
JoeyKnish at betselection (yes). As for bringing up things that happen outside of WoV, you are forever doing that, why even your signature does exactly that (pot kettle = black "irony").Quote: DMSCRI never did that. Again you got the wrong person. Plus why bring things happening outside of WOV onto here?
Okay you got me, I was put straight regarding EvenBob by one of the mods and realised the errors of my ways and did not repeat my mistake. That begs the question why are you allowed to lay into literally everybody and get away with it? How many ID's have you chastised, criticised or complained about, what really is YOUR agenda, seeing you have the gall to question mine, outing members, is this your role?
As for the "egalite ID's stunt", appears everybody knows who it really was except you, it was neither you or I....
Going by your Vegas Message board posts, the Wizard and co have it all wrong regarding Baccarat, what was it? The maths should be based on 6.5 decks or something as equally as silly as believing there are hidden patterns within patterns, or left brain function, over right!!
LOL. Doing johno/egalite's dirty work I see and also playing both sides in trying to stir something for your own entertainment. So what I went by JoeyKnish. My usual nick over there was already taken by someone and most likely you had something to do with that also from the looks of it. You, egalite/johno and garnabby seems to be the three musketeers behind much that has been going on. And I actually trusted garnabby for a good while too.
As for EvenBob. Recently I got a personal email/pm from someone of his eBay past which I never knew about. Now coming from the fact that you have just shown up here aiming things at me looks like that pm strongly makes you that individual. And no I didn't pop up back here to attack EvenBob since I don't have any issues with the guy. Given how you impersonated egalite with all those IDs and still denying that fact shows you are the culprit fueling the fire behind the scenes.
For VMB. Egalite never knew about that board or those posts since they are old around 2011/2012. Then suddenly "found" them last year. garnabby is a member of that board and I am sure you are on there too. Looks like johno/egalite didn't do this alone. He had help from you two. That makes some good sense now. I always wondered as to why it took him so long to find them. Yet he didn't find them himself. It was you and most likely garnabby behind it.
Now it is not surprising why you just became a member of this site since you are a long time member in many others.
All of this just because I didn't reveal my own way(s) of play and you three (maybe more) had to take some vindictive insidious approach in joining egalite/johno and his constant stalking scheme dragging people through the mud. Now you three look like desperate system sellers looking for new material.
Actually I have no agenda. Well actually now I do. I have always wondered if egalite/johno is the only sad soul in this ongoing fiasco. You and garnabby automatically answered that question. I didn't get them banned. They did that all by themselves. Egalite for being his usual bi-polar self and garnabby looks like he was permanently kicked out of here long before I even know of this site.
Now I can wipe my arse and flush in peace.
Quote: 1BBWhat's with the dual names LikesToLearn and pat89145 on the list together?
Usually indicates a multi-accounter.
No dirty work, just highlighting how you operate. Example you posted the EBay history of Evenbob claiming somebody sent you it. Yet it was recently posted on the Glen site, a site your regularly visit, your shrine as you point out, then you post "I want my money back"? Did you ever purchase anything from EvenBob, or is it your nature to make that comment?Quote: DMSCRDoing johno/egalite's dirty work
Correct and you PM'd at least two members, one being Bluehood (Garnabby) requesting they antagonise Johno (the actual PM you posted was reproduced at the Glen, so what game are you playing, inciting others to get involved.Quote: DMSCRSo what I went by JoeyKnish.
wasn't me, nor was it you and he knows that.Quote: DMSCRGiven how you impersonated egalite with all those IDs and still denying that fact shows you are the culprit fueling the fire behind the scenes.
far from it, not many subscribe to there being "secret exploitable patterns hidden within patterns" in the game of Baccarat. If members haven't realised already, there is a vindictive game in play >>Quote: DMSCRAll of this just because I didn't reveal my own way(s) of play and you three (maybe more) had to take some vindictive insidious approach in joining egalite/johno and his constant stalking scheme dragging people through the mud. Now you three look like desperate system sellers looking for new material.
maybe take a look at your posting history, you constantly contradict that statement carte blanc, a cultural thing perhaps?Quote:Plus why bring things happening outside of WOV onto here?
evidently, didn't you recently post 3 days was short, regarding Kerkebet, is that because he wouldn't join in your games by annoying Johno elsewhere according to your internet detective skills, (PM to bluehood remember), IMO such behaviour reflects rather badly and you try and even things up over here.Quote: DMSCRActually I have no agenda. Well actually now I do...
Maybe you should stick to posting gambling snippets, instead of zooming in on members trying to point score, or is the cultural thing difficult to shake off.
Left hand was it?Quote:Now I can wipe my arse and flush in peace.
Was this all about some silly betting system?
Some of the drama seems to have carried over at WoV.
Quote: tomla
Correct and you PM'd at least two members, one being Bluehood (Garnabby) requesting they antagonise Johno (the actual PM you posted was reproduced at the Glen, so what game are you playing, inciting others to get involved.Quote: DMSCRSo what I went by JoeyKnish.
evidently, didn't you recently post 3 days was short, regarding Kerkebet, is that because he wouldn't join in your games by annoying Johno elsewhere according to your internet detective skills, (PM to bluehood remember), IMO such behaviour reflects rather badly and you try and even things up over here.Quote: DMSCRActually I have no agenda. Well actually now I do...
Quote: Wizard15. Private Messaging: Private messages are supposed to be private. Of course, by mutual agreement they can be quoted to a larger audience. The rules above also apply to private messaging, including rule #1. An exception to the privacy rule is that abuses may be reported to the Wizard, JB or Mission146. We will treat it like a "coach's challenge" in the NFL. If a banning is warranted, it will be given. If not, a banning of a perceived victim may be made for making a false claim. (Added 8/17/2012)
Quote: rdw4potus15. Private Messaging: Private messages are supposed to be private. Of course, by mutual agreement they can be quoted to a larger audience. The rules above also apply to private messaging, including rule #1. An exception to the privacy rule is that abuses may be reported to the Wizard, JB or Mission146. We will treat it like a "coach's challenge" in the NFL. If a banning is warranted, it will be given. If not, a banning of a perceived victim may be made for making a false claim. (Added 8/17/2012)
No content of any PM has been reproduced here, only reference to possible content, the PM might be viewable on the Glen site.
Nothing more needs to be said, even Stevie Wonder can see the game being played out.
Quote: DrawingDeadFirst time I saw this thread I thought it seemed weird. Now, months later, I know it is weird; but I'm also seeing the "containment thread" value of it.
Wait until the "Monkeyfest" thread bans are discussed herein
Quote: aceofspadesWait until the "Monkeyfest" thread bans are discussed herein
Awful suspicious 1BB hasn't chimed in on the subject yet...quite suspicious...
Quote: RSAwful suspicious 1BB hasn't chimed in on the subject yet...quite suspicious...
That's so funny, I clicked this thread
to read the 110 objections he has to
these bans. Nada..
Well I just naturally assumed that was created as a sub-thread of this one. And for a handy place to give out "free buffet for life" certificates.Quote: aceofspadesWait until the "Monkeyfest" thread bans are discussed herein
Quote: RSAwful suspicious 1BB hasn't chimed in on the subject yet...quite suspicious...
Did somebody page me? Be careful what you ask for. :-)
Here are some of my statistics.
This thread was begun on December 25, 2010.
My first post in this thread that I found was on December 30, 2011, a full year later.
In the first 100 pages of this thread to March 4, 2014, I made 39 posts.
Of those 39 posts, only 5 could be considered complaints. A good imagination would be needed for that.
My "complaints" didn't become more frequent until the end of 2013/beginning of 2014. Something changed around that time. I can't quite put my finger on it.
Only a small fraction of my posts could be considered complaints. Those who say otherwise are obviously forgetting to convert to the true count. :-)
Others have more posts in this thread than I.
For those who show a special interest in me, how about compiling the numerous insults, trolling and attempts of baiting that I have been subjected to in this thread? Many were by some who should know better. Now add up the suspensions levied because of them? Warnings? Guess how many.
Fun fact. I didn't waste any time going after Mission146 as soon as he joined the forum. It's all there on page 42 of this thread, posted on June 8, 2012. He escaped unscathed and now you know "the rest of the story".
bans, they were A-OK with you?
Quote: EvenBobSo you aren't complaining about the latest
bans, they were A-OK with you?
One was too much, the other not enough. In...my...opinion.
Quote: 1BBOne was too much, the other not enough. In...my...opinion.
You're holding back, I can feel it..
Quote: EvenBobYou're holding back, I can feel it..
Ha ha, you first. It's going to be quiet for a while with everyone scrambling through the Suspension List.
Quote: 1BBHa ha, you first. It's going to be quiet for a while with everyone scrambling through the Suspension List.
I could care less who gets suspended,
that's why I never say anything. It's
an internet forum, it's not real life. We
don't even use our real names here.
Complain but want to do nothing. So, you just want to complain? I note "longstanding." I guess the mods having been accommodating you.
Stop complaining about being baited or trolled since you want nothing done. MODS are doing exactly as you wanted! You should be thanking every one of them.
Quote: 1BB... how about compiling the numerous insults, trolling and attempts of baiting that I have been subjected to in this thread? Many were by some who should know better. Now add up the suspensions levied because of them? Warnings? Guess how many.
Quote:
I do want remind those in charge of my longstanding request to not suspend anyone who insults me.
link.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/3853-discussion-about-the-suspension-list/503/#post427909
It isn't working.Quote:to prevent boredom.
Quote: rxwineActually, 1bb I would like you to examine the below users two posts. If my excerpt takes something out of context feel free to fix it.
Complain but want to do nothing. So, you just want to complain? I note "longstanding." I guess the mods having been accommodating you.
Stop complaining about being baited or trolled since you want nothing done. MODS are doing exactly as you wanted! You should be thanking every one of them.
link.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/3853-discussion-about-the-suspension-list/503/#post427909
Thank you for finding those posts. I have made several like them so I hope you didn't go to too much trouble. I stand by them one hundred percent and would feel just awful if someone's obsession with me caused them to be suspended.
Are you saying that the mods are giving me special treatment? Are you saying that they are deliberately allowing a member here to be baited and insulted while looking the other way? I certainly give them more credit than that. Why don't you ask them outright if you think that's the case? I'm sure they'd appreciate the question.
I think the automatic use of the word complain every time I make a post that is not agreed with is misleading. Observations and opinions are not necessarily complaints.
I'm flattered to have the following that I do but I'm no Joe Carroll. If anyone wants to break away from my "hold", feel free to do so. It will be a clean break with no strings attached. I promise.
Who's going to be the first to know who Joe Carroll is?
It didn't work. People did call him on his bs.
Just a thought.
Quote: 1BBI think the automatic use of the word complain every time I make a post that is not agreed with is misleading. Observations and opinions are not necessarily complaints.
It is a complaint if they disagree with your comment; it is an observation or opinion if they agree.
There are a lot of people around here who have gotten away with a lot more than others are allowed to get away with...I'm not complaining; I don't own the joint. It is just an observation.
Example--several characters who bullied people have been bombed out of existence. One bullied people and has stayed a cherished member.
Quote: RonCIt is a complaint if they disagree with your comment; it is an observation or opinion if they agree.
There are a lot of people around here who have gotten away with a lot more than others are allowed to get away with...I'm not complaining; I don't own the joint. It is just an observation.
Example--several characters who bullied people have been bombed out of existence. One bullied people and has stayed a cherished member.
In light of the fact( as far as I know anyway) that this place wasn't set up requiring that the mods/admin distance themselves from the rest of the community, I think most of their decisions are pretty good. Especially at their pay grade.
Regardless, I doubt anyone would agree with all the decisions made, no matter what.
somebody going to let him out?
Quote: rxwineIn light of the fact( as far as I know anyway) that this place wasn't set up requiring that the mods/admin distance themselves from the rest of the community, I think most of their decisions are pretty good. Especially at their pay grade.
Regardless, I doubt anyone would agree with all the decisions made, no matter what.
You are right--they do a pretty good job.
No, everyone won't agree with every decision. This thread would not be as long if they did!
Quote: EvenBobIt's the 13th, why is Axel's name still in red.
I don't think the moderators sit around watching the clock...he'll get let out of jail soon.
Quote: RonCI don't think the moderators sit around watching the clock...
Wouldn't it be cool if there was some sort of automated data processing system that could just perform actions at a preset time?
... and about 6 different versions of cron, too
Quote: EvenBobIt's the 13th, why is Axel's name still in red.
This post is timestamped at 11pm PDT on the 12th:-)
Quote: WizardLet me say that I take misquotation seriously. However, I also like to listen to both sides. When JyBrd gets back I will be expecting an explanation and/or apology for the misquotation in question. Depending on the response, appropriate action will be taken, with time already served duly noted.
Wizard,
I can't see where you followed up with this. If you think that enough havoc has already occured regarding this whole issue, along with the fact that you already took steps to deal with the root cause of this whole episode, I understand and accept it.
Quote: EvenBobAxel's suspension is up in a few hours, is
somebody going to let him out?
Does anyone want to talk about pat89145 who got 7 days for spamming? Member since February 26, 2011. That's right 2011.
The poor guy just wanted to mention his dog sitting service which could be helpful to a lot of people. It looks like the only thing he forgot to do was ask permission before posting, something that countless others have done. I guess we showed him. We wouldn't want him to take away business from all the other dog sitters who are members here.
Quote: GreasyjohnWizard,
I can't see where you followed up with this. If you think that enough havoc has already occured regarding this whole issue, along with the fact that you already took steps to deal with the root cause of this whole episode, I understand and accept it.
I think JyBrd would argue he was quoting the false quote and didn't know it was false. I'd like to just move forward. If he cares to address it, he is welcome to, but I'm not demanding an explanation any longer.
Quote: 1BBDoes anyone want to talk about pat89145 who got 7 days for spamming? Member since February 26, 2011. That's right 2011.
The poor guy just wanted to mention his dog sitting service which could be helpful to a lot of people. It looks like the only thing he forgot to do was ask permission before posting, something that countless others have done. I guess we showed him. We wouldn't want him to take away business from all the other dog sitters who are members here.
I couldn't find any posts by him or the one that got him suspended? It is very hard to travel with pets and bona fides from this site might be a real benefit to members?
Quote: petroglyphI couldn't find any posts by him or the one that got him suspended? It is very hard to travel with pets and bona fides from this site might be a real benefit to members?
He posted in the "Please don't over-flag" thread. I looked him up under community members. His web site is very impressive. You can feel his love of dogs. The site has photos of him, his home and his dogs as well as a lot of information.
Quote: 1BBDoes anyone want to talk about pat89145 who got 7 days for spamming? Member since February 26, 2011. That's right 2011.
Not trying to bug you 1bb, but why do you think the date matters?
Trolls, for instance, have preemptively made multiple accounts knowing they get burned on other accounts. They then avoided post restrictions as new sign-ups.
pat89145 can still appeal.
Quote: rxwineNot trying to bug you 1bb, but why do you think the date matters?
Trolls, for instance, have preemptively made multiple accounts knowing they get burned on other accounts. They then avoided post restrictions as new sign-ups.
pat89145 can still appeal.
Rule 3 says not to post an ad in your very first post. Pat has 3 posts but he is also a 4 year member. Technically, you could probably say that he recently made his first post regardless of his tenure here but as these things are handled on a case by case basis, I figured the 4 years would count for something. Read his web site and come to your own conclusion. This is not a guy selling systems or fake IDs.
Quote: RonCI don't think the moderators sit around watching the clock...he'll get let out of jail soon.
I actually was standing by, but I decided to kill the remaining time with a little Civ V. "Killing an hour" wound up finding me locked in a surprise nuclear war with both Russia and France simultaneously, and such an offense cannot be left to handle at a later time.
Next thing I knew, France was wiped from Earth and Russia was on the brink of collapse. Also, it was then Monday and the sun was coming up =/
Quote: FaceI actually was standing by, but I decided to kill the remaining time with a little Civ V. "Killing an hour" wound up finding me locked in a surprise nuclear war with both Russia and France simultaneously, and such an offense cannot be left to handle at a later time.
Next thing I knew, France was wiped from Earth and Russia was on the brink of collapse. Also, it was then Monday and the sun was coming up =/
Just one more turn I said when the Sun came up.
Crap Germans broke my MPP and declared war on me after discovering Panzars, must regroup. Sun's going down.....
(I never played V yet, only III and IV. I have a love/hate relationship with this game, so many wasted hours)
Can you turn off nukes in V? I liked 4 because you can customize games so much more. I don't like using nukes, makes the game too much of a wild card... but I guess that's how real life works.
Quote: djatcI have a love/hate relationship with this game, so many wasted hours.
Amen to that, brother! My first all-nighter in college was courtesy of the original Civ! The problem is I always told myself that I would quit at a good stopping point.
Quote: djatcJust one more turn I said when the Sun came up.
Preach!
Quote: djatcCan you turn off nukes in V? I liked 4 because you can customize games so much more. I don't like using nukes, makes the game too much of a wild card... but I guess that's how real life works.
Not that I know of. I don't remember seeing it even in the advanced options. Of course, there is a vibrant community modding database, and I know "no nukes" is one of the mods available. I might now look into it, as the damnable French literally nuked one of my cities clean off the map. I did not know that was possible =/
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I enjoy pita bread. The Syrian bakery that I frequent makes the best!
Quote: 1BBI'd like to say hello to member neverfinished. He visits the forum often but he can't post because he was nuked on his first post. It was most likely another innocent mistake. He mentioned his T shirt business that had strategy charts printed on them. A capital offense if I ever saw one. No forgiveness and no second chance for him.
It's funny, your timing in making this sh&* stirring accusation. I wrote the Wizard yesterday after seeing neverfinished had returned several times and asked for clemency on his behalf, which he granted, and neverfinished has been notified that his ban was lifted and he's been offered a second chance. So you're either psychic or just too late in your newest effort.
No question that he specifically broke the rules in the first place and received the appropriate response. However, he has not tried to cheat the rules or otherwise spam this board since, and continued to show an interest, so he's been made whole. The next move, contributor or further spam, is up to him.
Quote: 1BBI'd like to say hello to member neverfinished. He visits the forum often but he can't post because he was nuked on his first post. It was most likely another innocent mistake. He mentioned his T shirt business that had strategy charts printed on them. A capital offense if I ever saw one. No forgiveness and no second chance for him.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's funny, your timing in making this sh&* stirring accusation. I wrote the Wizard yesterday after seeing neverfinished had returned several times and asked for clemency on his behalf, which he granted, and neverfinished has been notified that his ban was lifted and he's been offered a second chance. So you're either psychic or just too late in your newest effort.
No question that he specifically broke the rules in the first place and received the appropriate response. However, he has not tried to cheat the rules or otherwise spam this board since, and continued to show an interest, so he's been made whole. The next move, contributor or further spam, is up to him.
A "sh&* stirring accusation"? For asking for clemency for someone?
