Discussion about the Suspension List
Quote: beachbumbabsStrictlyAP's reinstatement is still available to him under the terms the Wizard stated a couple weeks ago. It has nothing to do with popularity, either his, or of the decision.
I think if the forum were railing against the decision, it would be a diferent story.
I have appealed to the Wizard for more specificity regarding this topic, but he is letting the issue lie. The terms appear unreasonable, and to inherently favor Aye. An official arbitrator would find in favor of SAP. Presumably, Aye would not agree to real arbitration. He'd lose, then pay the cost of the proceeding. Aye can apparantly disagree to any situation that wouldn't result in a probable victory, and the terms require SAP to agree. The terms also allow Aye to disagree for no reason, in effect paying $100 for SAP to never return. SAP already offered to have someone arbitrate that he picked, which is a more favorable situation to Aye than actual binding arbitration. How are they supposed to agree? What incentive is there for Aye to agree to anything that doesn't give him a clear edge? How does SAP even communicate if he is banned?
Quote: SonuvabishI think if the forum were railing against the decision, it would be a diferent story.
I have appealed to the Wizard for more specificity regarding this topic, but he is letting the issue lie. The terms appear unreasonable, and to inherently favor Aye. An official arbitrator would find in favor of SAP. Presumably, Aye would not agree to real arbitration. He'd lose, then pay the cost of the proceeding. Aye can apparantly disagree to any situation that wouldn't result in a probable victory, and the terms require SAP to agree. SAP already offered to have someone arbitrate that he picked, which is a more favorable situation to Aye than actual binding arbitration. How are they supposed to agree? What incentive is there for Aye to agree to anything that doesn't give him a clear edge? How does SAP even communicate if he is banned?
SAP has several email addresses and knows some of us in person. Why do you say an official arbitrator would find in favor of SAP? I think that's far from a sure thing, but since SAP's objections are unknown, that's the point of offering arbitration. Or that the terms are unreasonable? The only terms I'm aware of are that the arbitrator be mutually acceptable, and both parties abide by the decision (binding).
Quote: beachbumbabsSAP has several email addresses and knows some of us in person. Why do you say an official arbitrator would find in favor of SAP? I think that's far from a sure thing, but since SAP's objections are unknown, that's the point of offering arbitration. Or that the terms are unreasonable? The only terms I'm aware of are that the arbitrator be mutually acceptable, and both parties abide by the decision (binding).
An actual arbitrator would find in favor of SAP because gambling debts are unenforceable. Only someone, that was not actually an arbitrator, who made things up out of thin air with no reference to the law would decide illegal/social contracts are not void. In a post several pages back, I asked the Wizard to stipulate that SAP would agree to REAL arbitration that was legally binding.
I stated why the terms are unreasonable in the bulk of the last post. Aye can disagree on a whim. I cannot see how it's possible to have mutual agreement without one party conceding to the other.
While I got you on the line, my name is in red under the Stories thread...last post u can see it on the main menu. It's freaking me out.
And can I be voluntarily suspended like 12 hours per day, to save up credits to use against my next completely unjust suspension?
In another thread the Wiz alluded to whether I might hold a grudge for his suspensions of me. This is something he, or any other mod, should never worry about. I don't hold him/they responsible. I hold myself responsible. I'm the culprit. I accept the blame and I'm moving on.
Quote: mickeycrimmSonuvabish, as an experiened suspendee, I can tell you that when it happens to me I don't cry or nit pick the rules. Its not my forum. If one doesn't follow the rules then one should expect to get suspended. I just man up, admit to myself that the whole thing was my fault, and move on.
In another thread the Wiz alluded to whether I might hold a grudge for his suspensions of me. This is something he, or any other mod, should never worry about. I don't hold him/they responsible. I hold myself responsible. I'm the culprit. I accept the blame and I'm moving on.
The last part of my previous post was a joke, not purposely in reference to anything. But I did get 30 days for not conceivably breaking any rule: why did the chicken cross the road. Nonetheless, I appreciate the wisdom.
Quote: mickeycrimmSonuvabish, as an experiened suspendee, I can tell you that when it happens to me I don't cry or nit pick the rules. Its not my forum. If one doesn't follow the rules then one should expect to get suspended. I just man up, admit to myself that the whole thing was my fault, and move on.
In another thread the Wiz alluded to whether I might hold a grudge for his suspensions of me. This is something he, or any other mod, should never worry about. I don't hold him/they responsible. I hold myself responsible. I'm the culprit. I accept the blame and I'm moving on.
As someone who has been suspended before....... +100!
It seems the issue here is a few people don't like or agree with the rules. Or they want to argue that the rule wasn't imposed properly. or that some people have a bias against certain posters. Or that a tax system that punishes those who work harder is unfair. Or that the Cowboys were screwed against the Packers.....etc.
Quote: BozIt seems the issue here is a few people don't like or agree with the rules. Or they want to argue that the rule wasn't imposed properly. or that some people have a bias against certain posters. Or that a tax system that punishes those who work harder is unfair. Or that the Cowboys were screwed against the Packers.....etc.
This a thousand times.
With the exception of Sonuvabish (who was suspended at the time), where were all these SAP supporters when the deal was going down in the first place? Why do they just come out when a moderator "flexes muscle"?
Oh the pain! I have finally accepted the reality that the Packers beat the Cowboys regardless of that play.Quote: BozOr that the Cowboys were screwed against the Packers
Somewhere, Larry S just burst an artery.Quote: DRichI vote that a new rule be created that states that anyone arguing over the rules gets suspended. This is a privately owned forum and should be a treated as a dictatorship and not a democracy. Feel free to suspend me for casting a vote in what I think should be a dictatorship.
Quote: DeucekiesThis a thousand times.
With the exception of Sonuvabish (who was suspended at the time), where were all these SAP supporters when the deal was going down in the first place? Why do they just come out when a moderator "flexes muscle"?
I'm a staunch supporter of bets being honored. I in no way support anyone who does not honor a bet. (I refuse to use the slur associated with not paying.) Having said that, I'm not a supporter of a longtime decent forum member being permanently banned for any first offense.
I do not recall anyone, even remotely, stating that it is acceptable to not honor a bet. Not one person. Did I miss something? Is it okay to support the person but not the deed?
This is going happen again. Perhaps the gamblers who will bet on anything under the sun, weight loss, nugget consumption, scratch tickets, could brainstorm and come up with a plan that addresses not paying up. There's got to be something that can be done to get everyone on the same page. Am I right that this is more about betrayal than it is about the small amount involved?
Quote: DRichI vote that a new rule be created that states that anyone arguing over the rules gets suspended. This is a privately owned forum and should be a treated as a dictatorship and not a democracy. Feel free to suspend me for casting a vote in what I think should be a dictatorship.
I would vote against, both from a mod standpoint as it gives insight into the "pulse of the forum", and also as a guy who simply enjoys arguing. Also, in the spirit of AZD, we don't need a new law. If a complainer was so bad as to entirely disrupt the forum, we could bounce them with a single click. We already have that power. No need to gain what we already have.
Quote: 1BB
This is going happen again. Perhaps the gamblers who will bet on anything under the sun, weight loss, nugget consumption, scratch tickets, could brainstorm and come up with a plan that addresses not paying up. There's got to be something that can be done to get everyone on the same page. Am I right that this is more about betrayal than it is about the small amount involved?
I agree that it will happen again. What do you have in mind to address it in the future? And this is open to everyone. As they say in the Calla, "I would hear you, I would hear you very well."
Quote: FaceI would vote against, both from a mod standpoint as it gives insight into the "pulse of the forum", and also as a guy who simply enjoys arguing. Also, in the spirit of AZD, we don't need a new law. If a complainer was so bad as to entirely disrupt the forum, we could bounce them with a single click. We already have that power. No need to gain what we already have.
I agree that it will happen again. What do you have in mind to address it in the future? And this is open to everyone. As they say in the Calla, "I would hear you, I would hear you very well."
I haven't given it any thought but the first thing that crossed my mind would be a real pain in the neck and would involve someone holding the money. Kinda takes some of the fun out of it not to mention the spontaneity. I'm so glad I don't participate in these betting things, not that there's anything wrong with it.
Quote: bobsimsNo you won't. You will swallow your party moving six clicks to the right and returning to the Wall Street/corporate/banking/globalist/Zionist whores The Clintons-and lie to yourself that you like it.
You are a sheep. Bah, Bah.
Quote: beachbumbabsPersonal insult, 3 days.
People can insult folks who may watch Fox with comments about tin foil hats but saying that someone will follow their party, well, like a sheep...that's a personal insult.
This is one of those times when a warning is much more appropriate than a suspension...
Fair and balanced.
I would like to say this to SAP. Quit being so hard headed . Whoever is giving him credit for this being a pride thing that's BS.
*Edit accidentally hit post*
He's being hard headed it's that simple. It appears that SAP has a strong feeling he was duped somehow(so he was stalling payment trying to figure out if that was the case), yet he has no real proof. That's simply not A valid reason not to pay. Then I think he was trying to figure out the situation but then got pissed that AY made it publlic. Agian he is just being stubborn and dumb about this. If you got duped but have no proof to bad so sad pay up. You can't not pay because someone posted you weren't paying or they made you look bad or just because you think something fishy happen. Pay the $100 unless you have a legitimate reason not to.
Quote: DeucekiesThis a thousand times.
With the exception of Sonuvabish (who was suspended at the time), where were all these SAP supporters when the deal was going down in the first place? Why do they just come out when a moderator "flexes muscle"?
This reminds me of that video where some people are passing a basketball around and the viewers don't see the gorilla walking amongst them because the viewers are asked to count the passes.
I started attempting to engage SAP on 1/26.
Pointing out that not agreeing with why he was suspended, is far from saying that whoever is owed, shouldn't collect. Me stating that SAP has been a member in good standing for hundreds of posts without penalty is still a fact. That in no way condones welching, it isn't even "support".
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Quote: RonCPeople can insult folks who may watch Fox with comments about tin foil hats but saying that someone will follow their party, well, like a sheep...that's a personal insult.
Liberals don't see it that way.
Warnings are given for insulting the Obama's, but not for insulting the Palin's.
And I wouldn't expect anything different.
Quote: RonC...that's a personal insult.
Good grief.
Anyone who's so weak kneed, low or corrupt as to be "personally insultable" over the internet, and then confirms it... obviously deserves to be in the sense that other persons ought to have better things to do than try to govern it.
Real personal insult happens only face-to-face in the real world. We need to grow some here, and get at it.
Quote: KerkebetGood grief.
Anyone who's so weak kneed, low or corrupt as to be "personally insultable" over the internet, and then confirms it... obviously deserves to be in the sense that other persons ought to have better things to do than try to govern it.
Real personal insult happens only face-to-face in the real world. We need to grow some here, and get at it.
You missed the point, so let make it more clearly...
I find both the sheep comment and the Fox news comments amusing, not insulting. I compared them because someone got suspended for calling someone a "sheep" for pretty much following the party line.
I'm not sure what someone who watches both Fox and MSNBC is...maybe a sheep with a tinfoil hat?
At any rate, I am not insulted!!
Quote: RonCPeople can insult folks who may watch Fox with comments about tin foil hats but saying that someone will follow their party, well, like a sheep...that's a personal insult.
So, I assume you flagged it.
I see more than I ever have flagged, and I don't bitch about anything I won't bother to flag.
Quote: RonCAt any rate, I am not insulted!!
Thank you.
But all of this stuff makes me want to be homeless.
Maybe, that's one of the ways that the human psyche shuts down or removes itself from the equation.
Anyway, everyone carry on. Don't pay any attention to me.
Quote: rxwineSo, I assume you flagged it.
I see more than I ever have flagged, and I don't bitch about anything I won't bother to flag.
Nope. I did not flag it. I thought the sheep thing was funny; as I did the tin foil hat things.
No one has ever seen my tin foil hat!
Quote: RonCNope. I did not flag it. I thought the sheep thing was funny; as I did the tin foil hat things.
No one has ever seen my tin foil hat!
I was the one he called sheep.
I'm glad he got suspended because a previous insult in my eyes was a lot worse.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/19787-news-channel-bias/29/#post426960
Quote: bobsimsStill choking on the BBC story entitled "Living in Britain's no-go zones "?
Keep choking, you're my bitch now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4007409.stm
Quote: terapinedI was the one he called sheep.
I'm glad he got suspended because a previous insult in my eyes was a lot worse.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/19787-news-channel-bias/29/#post426960
I predict his name will be permanently red before too long. Some of his posts have just been vile.
Quote: terapinedI was the one he called sheep.
I'm glad he got suspended because a previous insult in my eyes was a lot worse.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/19787-news-channel-bias/29/#post426960
If he would have been suspended for that one, it would be understandable. I just think the whole "sheep" thing is along the same line as "Faux News" and all of that...not enough to warrant punishment.
Now it is true he may eventually push enough buttons to go the way of some other folks...we'll see...
Quote: FaceI agree that it will happen again. What do you have in mind to address it in the future? And this is open to everyone. As they say in the Calla, "I would hear you, I would hear you very well."
As General Custer said before he died, "Ouch! Ow! Ouch!"
No change of rules is going to handle everything.
My guess, if you think the rules are going to keep you from being zapped if they decide to zap you.
See above, General Custer.
Ultimately I don't think the powers that be are going to be held prisoner by the rules if it comes down to it.
BUT, you can dream, if you wanna.
The reasonable answer is most people have it figured out. I mean, how to stay here. If you think it's really in question and you're a reasonably smart person, I'd say that strains credibility on your part. You don't have to figure out where the limits are to stay here. That's a different question. Good luck with that if you pursue it. Most haven't faired too well on that path.
Of course, all above is not actually anyone's opinion but my own. No guarantees it is close to the truth.
I could be tossed out at any minute, for that matter.
Quote: terapinedI was the one he called sheep.
I'm glad he got suspended because a previous insult in my eyes was a lot worse.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/19787-news-channel-bias/29/#post426960
I don't know what your guys' problem is. Bobsims should be promoted to full green moderator. Can anyone argue the forum would be less interesting?
"Why was Zuga nuked? He hasn't done anything remotely warranting such an action."
"Because I got a problem with authority."
"That's not a rule violation."
"So?"
Quote: WizardWith all due respect to John Lennon, please show me any unmoderated active forum that isn't a complete cesspool.
"Imagine all the people living for today..." Modifying behavior is difficult. There's no doubt about that. There are different contingencies that work for different people and different people learn prosocial behavior at different rates. For anyone interested, there was once a very popular book known as Walden II that described a utopian society based on behavioral principles, and it's kind of a fun thought experiment.
Regarding StrictlyAP and the way events unfolded I think things could have went better, but I'm not surprised events took the course they did. I'm personally of the opinion that in most cases, refusing to pay a bet when it should be is a very poor decision, but there are exceptions and unfortunately we never got the whole story. We might have gotten the full story, but he was basically cornered in the thread that discussed the incident and that would naturally put quite a bit of pressure on most people in that circumstance. He may be in the wrong, and it appears that way, but without hearing everything I don't know if it's just to deem him a person of bad character instead of just saying he made a bad choice. Others have confirmed he's paid bets in the past and maintained good conduct, so it's important to look at a person's past.
Quote: Minty"Imagine all the people living for today..." Modifying behavior is difficult. There's no doubt about that. There are different contingencies that work for different people and different people learn prosocial behavior at different rates. For anyone interested, there was once a very popular book known as Walden II that described a utopian society bas I think things could have went better, but I'm not surprised events took the course they did. I'm personally of the opinion that in most cases, refusing to pay a bet when it should be is a very poor decision, but there are exceptions and unfortunately we never got the whole story. We might have gotten the full story, but he was basically cornered in the thread that discussed the incident and that would naturally put quite a bit of pressure on most people in that circumstance. He may be in the wrong, and it appears that way, but without hearing everything I don't know if it's just to deem him a person of bad character instead of just saying he made a bad choice. Others have confirmed he's paid bets in the past and maintained good conduct, so it's important to look at a person's past.
The hippy movement in San Francisco was ruined by those who flocked to the town wanting to be like them but didn't have the same mindset.
ZCore13
but there is president for that. buzzard got the same good treatment. none of the mods wnated to do anything about hiim until the big boss up top did. just look at who took care of micky and that's all you need to knowQuote: Zcore13Wow, how does Mickey get such good treatment? Constantly suspended but his suspension time goes backward instead of forward? 7th offense and 3rd in the last 3 months and he gets 3 days???? Different rules if you're drunk??
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Wow, how does Mickey get such good treatment? Constantly suspended but his suspension time goes backward instead of forward? 7th offense and 3rd in the last 3 months and he gets 3 days???? Different rules if you're drunk??
ZCore13
Only if you can tell good stories.
That's the thing though, we could have totally rigid enforcement.
MC would be a martingale into near infinity already. (a little hyperbole, but it would be a long suspension)
Quote: Zcore13Wow, how does Mickey get such good treatment? Constantly suspended but his suspension time goes backward instead of forward? 7th offense and 3rd in the last 3 months and he gets 3 days???? Different rules if you're drunk??
ZCore13
This will probably not modify the point you are making, but the suspension was for 7 days:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/las-vegas/20961-the-homeless-in-north-las-vegas/10/#post433465
Quote: Zcore13Wow, how does Mickey get such good treatment? Constantly suspended but his suspension time goes backward instead of forward? 7th offense and 3rd in the last 3 months and he gets 3 days???? Different rules if you're drunk??
ZCore13
I was high AND drunk when I made all those vicious past posts. I also had a gun. A plea for leniency mods! Can I have some time credited?! Come on 30 days for why did the chicken cross the road? cuz i slapped him. 7 days for the 7th offense entaling 'you are a piece of @#$. you're family is #@#@ 32#@." 0 days for 'you want a right cross to your jaw?' I'll pay Aye $100 if SAP can come back and I can be a green with nuke powers. Out of curiousity, can mods nuke each other? Could our currently rogue secret mod nuke the Wizard if he 'felt strongly' about it?
Quote: SonuvabishI think it was originally for 3; I commented on it as 3, then the Wizard suspended someone else related to it, and I looked again and it was now 7. I'm not 100% sure it was modified, but I thought I saw 3, and so did someone else apparantly.
I thought I might have seen 3 days too, but BBB did say 7 in her post.
Quote: GreasyjohnI thought I might have seen 3 days too, but BBB did say 7 in her post.
I know, but I read that after I THOUGHT i saw three in the suspension list. Maybe she edited her post? Maybe there was a mistake when inputing it on the list? Maybe we are all crazy?
Quote: Zcore13Wow, how does Mickey get such good treatment? Constantly suspended but his suspension time goes backward instead of forward? 7th offense and 3rd in the last 3 months and he gets 3 days???? Different rules if you're drunk??
ZCore13
I'm not even going to comment on the punishment because that is up to the administrators to levy as they see fit. It is none of my concern and my comments are not appreciated.
I will, for everyone's benefit, list some of the insults hurled at Bob for those who don't want to search for them. Ready?
True ass rube.
One sick individual.
The dumbest old man I ever came across.
Your family were all drug addicts.
Piece of s**t family.
You are a born and raised piece of s**t.
Bob is a creep.
One day for each insult.
First insult hurled at 2:45 AM, suspension levied at 10:56 AM.
This is suspension number SEVEN. Is that a record or at least a tie for the record?
Suspension history.
10/23/13 - 5 days.
1/10/14 - 3 days.
7/26/14 - 7 days.
9/15/14- 3 days.
11/15/14 - 14 days.
1/7/17 - 7 days.
2/14/15 - 7 days.
I have no opinion on the administration of this latest suspension however I found the insults to be very offensive, some of the worst I've seen. I made this post solely for the convenience of those interested so they don't have to wade through multiple pages.
Quote: 1BBI'm not even going to comment on the punishment because that is up to the administrators to levy as they see fit. It is none of my concern and my comments are not appreciated.
I will, for everyone's benefit, list some of the insults hurled at Bob for those who don't want to search for them. Ready?
True ass rube.
One sick individual.
The dumbest old man I ever came across.
Your family were all drug addicts.
Piece of s**t family.
You are a born and raised piece of s**t.
Bob is a creep.
One day for each insult.
First insult hurled at 2:45 AM, suspension levied at 10:56 AM.
This is suspension number SEVEN. Is that a record or at least a tie for the record?
Suspension history.
10/23/13 - 5 days.
1/10/14 - 3 days.
7/26/14 - 7 days.
9/15/14- 3 days.
11/15/14 - 14 days.
1/7/17 - 7 days.
2/14/15 - 7 days.
I have no opinion on the administration of this latest suspension however I found the insults to be very offensive, some of the worst I've seen. I made this post solely for the convenience of those interested so they don't have to wade through multiple pages.
I'm offended. I get penalized way worse for way less. And me at least, I can't say much to MC cuz he'll say something awful back and not get in trouble. But if I argue, down comes the hammer. 7 days isn't bad, considering he often gets less and is not subject to anything resembling martingale.
clause. He didn't even see it coming.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
Quote: GreasyjohnI definitely thought to myself when I saw him on the suspension list, well, he'll be back in 3 days.
mickeycrimm 2/14/15 3 Personal insult 2/21/15
It said three days, but the return date was for a week later. I still had the tab open. It was an input mistake.
Quote: Zcore13Wow, how does Mickey get such good treatment? Constantly suspended but his suspension time goes backward instead of forward? 7th offense and 3rd in the last 3 months and he gets 3 days???? Different rules if you're drunk??
BBB said the suspension was for seven days in this post and indicated the suspension ending date seven days from then. However, she did put "3" in the "number of days" column, which I think was a clerical error. I assumed this to be the case, and already changed the 3 to a 7 myself.
To address the SAP suspension, again, basically, rule 13 was invoked. The two things I stand for the most when it comes to gambling are honoring a losing bet and abiding by the rules of a game. SAP went on for post after post that he had no intention of paying AYE and failed to defend himself in any way, other than to allude to some phone call that Aye denied ever happened. Efforts at mediation or arbitration were ignored or refused.
In an effort to protect other forum members, he was nuked. A newcomer could have come to the site, made another bet with AP, won, have SAP refuse to pay, and get upset with forum management for letting a known welcher (Much to the chagrin of my spell checker, I spell it with a C) remain on the forum. BTW, this is not the first time this we've nuked somebody for reasons of the protection of the forum community.
The door remains open for SAP to either pay Aye or submit to arbitration.
Finally, if anybody is so bothered about this, or any other suspension, to write endless posts complaining about it, may I make a radical suggestion -- just leave. And don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Well there's the problem right there, you can't do both. One or the other. Besides that, we can only have one resident [intoxicant] at a time. You were probably crowding his space, no wonder you got thirty days.Quote: SonuvabishI was high AND drunk when I made all those vicious past posts.
The thing is, you knew it when you did it. Mickey won't know till he reads the board again and see's his name in red.
It's kinda fun don't you think? Back when I had an honest job, when someone do to sickness ran out of leave, the company would let those that wanted donate what ever hours they felt like. Few hours here a few hours there, pretty soon your talking a couple of days.
I doubt whether Bob took any offense, he is a professional. Do you think he really meant those things he said? I don't think he meant them all, not like it sounds. You see kid, in our business when one of your peers calls you a tramp, that's a compliment. Bum,,, now that's different.
That is how Black Velvet worked for me, IIRC, with tequila back. I don't know if you heard this but I did the other day and I chuckled. This guy in line was asked by the lady at the counter if he remembered some thing or other. The guy says "hell lady, if it weren't for flashbacks I wouldn't have any memory at all". lol
So true story here [besides the BV] my boss comes into the shop and plops one of those empty beef jerky jugs on the table and says, it's some kind of penalty jar to help us remember we now have a female secretary. We are supposed to put in a dollar every time we "accidentally" used profanity. I dug in my wallet and through a five in the jug, in advance? It would have been a lot easier to get her to understand profanity than it was to get a dozen hard drinking workers to learn any tact.
I was retired for 2 years before I found out there was an adjective that didn't have 4 letters.
Quote: petroglyphWell there's the problem right there, you can't do both. One or the other. Besides that, we can only have one resident [intoxicant] at a time. You were probably crowding his space, no wonder you got thirty days.
The thing is, you knew it when you did it. Mickey won't know till he reads the board again and see's his name in red.
It's kinda fun don't you think? Back when I had an honest job, when someone do to sickness ran out of leave, the company would let those that wanted donate what ever hours they felt like. Few hours here a few hours there, pretty soon your talking a couple of days.
I doubt whether Bob took any offense, he is a professional. Do you think he really meant those things he said? I don't think he meant them all, not like it sounds. You see kid, in our business when one of your peers calls you a tramp, that's a compliment. Bum,,, now that's different.
That is how Black Velvet worked for me, IIRC, with tequila back. I don't know if you heard this but I did the other day and I chuckled. This guy in line was asked by the lady at the counter if he remembered some thing or other. The guy says "hell lady, if it weren't for flashbacks I wouldn't have any memory at all". lol
So true story here [besides the BV] my boss comes into the shop and plops one of those empty beef jerky jugs on the table and says, it's some kind of penalty jar to help us remember we now have a female secretary. We are supposed to put in a dollar every time we "accidentally" used profanity. I dug in my wallet and through a five in the jug, in advance? It would have been a lot easier to get her to understand profanity than it was to get a dozen hard drinking workers to learn any tact.
I was retired for 2 years before I found out there was an adjective that didn't have 4 letters.
I have no clue what you're talking about. But I think I angered the Wizard, possibly in conjunction with 1BB. Bet it was that rogue secret mod comment. Just to clarify in reference to that not so serious comment, I'd be more interested in becoming green with nuclear superpowers than in extracting SAP from oblivion.
Quote: SonuvabishQuote: petroglyphWell there's the problem right there, you can't do both. One or the other. Besides that, we can only have one resident [intoxicant] at a time. You were probably crowding his space, no wonder you got thirty days.
The thing is, you knew it when you did it. Mickey won't know till he reads the board again and see's his name in red.
It's kinda fun don't you think? Back when I had an honest job, when someone do to sickness ran out of leave, the company would let those that wanted donate what ever hours they felt like. Few hours here a few hours there, pretty soon your talking a couple of days.
I doubt whether Bob took any offense, he is a professional. Do you think he really meant those things he said? I don't think he meant them all, not like it sounds. You see kid, in our business when one of your peers calls you a tramp, that's a compliment. Bum,,, now that's different.
That is how Black Velvet worked for me, IIRC, with tequila back. I don't know if you heard this but I did the other day and I chuckled. This guy in line was asked by the lady at the counter if he remembered some thing or other. The guy says "hell lady, if it weren't for flashbacks I wouldn't have any memory at all". lol
So true story here [besides the BV] my boss comes into the shop and plops one of those empty beef jerky jugs on the table and says, it's some kind of penalty jar to help us remember we now have a female secretary. We are supposed to put in a dollar every time we "accidentally" used profanity. I dug in my wallet and through a five in the jug, in advance? It would have been a lot easier to get her to understand profanity than it was to get a dozen hard drinking workers to learn any tact.
I was retired for 2 years before I found out there was an adjective that didn't have 4 letters.
I have no clue what you're talking about. But I think I angered the Wizard, possibly in conjunction with 1BB. Bet it was that rogue secret mod comment. Just to clarify in reference to that not so serious comment, I'd be more interested in becoming green with nuclear superpowers than in extracting SAP from oblivion.
When I asked a secret mod if they were a secret mod, I was scolded by the Wizard. It was an offhand comment said in jest that meant no harm. That is why I will not say who the current secret administrator is. I would never post something that would upset another member.
From now on I'm going assign the code name "Casper" to the secret administrator. That way I won't have to say him/her and risk inadvertently giving away the gender. Besides, Casper is a friendly ghost just like our secret administrator. Go Casper! Your secret is safe with me.
Quote: SonuvabishI think it was originally for 3; I commented on it as 3, then the Wizard suspended someone else related to it, and I looked again and it was now 7. I'm not 100% sure it was modified, but I thought I saw 3, and so did someone else apparantly.
It was 7 days from the time I suspended him. I did not amend it. Edit: The Wizard is correct (reading down from this quote), I made a typo leaving the "3" in the column of how many days in the Suspension list itself. When we edit the list, we have to put a bunch of html in the table manually and I missed the single digit error among the code. But in the post where I quoted the offense, and in the list for dates, I used 7 days, which was my intent. My apologies for the typo.
Quote: bigmanjbut there is president for that. buzzard got the same good treatment. none of the mods wnated to do anything about hiim until the big boss up top did. just look at who took care of micky and that's all you need to know
bigmanj is banned, nuclear option, multiple ID's of previously banned member.
Quote: beachbumbabsbigmanj is banned, nuclear option, multiple ID's of previously banned member.
LOL he spelled precedent as president. No prob on the typo, i figured it out b4 the wiz even addressed it. Every green creature endowed with superpowers makes mistakes.
