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April 8th, 2021 at 9:39:34 AM permalink
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I will say that, in my opinion, it's rather foolish to get away with letting a suspected sock hide behind a VPN. If you see that, you should at least force them to very briefly unmask. But I won't tell Mike how to run his forum.



Thanks for weighing in Dan Druff. Just curious, how many (approximate) members at your forum are using a VPN ?
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April 8th, 2021 at 9:44:55 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks Dan! What site do you prefer to check an IP? What can you tell me about this IP: 72.193.121.71, for example?

It tells us that some Math Nerd was located on Via Della Amore between Plaza Navona & via Toscana using Cox Communications 🤓
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 8th, 2021 at 9:49:14 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Thanks for weighing in Dan Druff. Just curious, how many (approximate) members at your forum are using a VPN ?

There are actually only 10 real members. 😂
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 8th, 2021 at 10:10:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

There are actually only 10 real members. 😂



I don't know about that, but I was trying to draw out the number of members are using VPN's right now on his forum, because the answer is 1. And that same "1" is on this forum, one of several on this forum, but, in reality, they are all connected. :)

And when you think about that, you have to ask why? You mentioned your need for VPN's in your online gambling. That makes sense. But why does someone need to use a VPN on a message board. The only legitimate reason I have heard is if they are from a country like China or North Korea, Russia or whatever.

Most of us here are from the US or Canada with some other international locations mixed in. Even those of us that have concerns about privacy in real life (mostly against the casino industry), because we are advantage players, there is no need to mask IP addresses on a forum. The only people masking IP addresses are up to NO GOOD. They are doing so to hide sockpuppetry or to hide that they are not where they say they are, not matching up with any back story or claims.
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April 8th, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

The only people masking IP addresses are up to NO GOOD. They are doing so to hide sockpuppetry or to hide that they are not where they say they are, not matching up with any back story or claims.


Very Often, but not necessarily.

Let's say a member habitually uses the internet from a corporate or government network which has strict network use rules. She frequently connects to a forum and the admins identify the connection as operated by say, a specific Walgreens. Walgreens see that an employee is spending hours on a forum and get angry. Both MIGHT intercept the traffic or analyse it later.

She might get disciplined by Walgreens management or she may get harassed at her place of work by a forum moderator. So. Two valid, if weak reasons to use a vpn: To hide destination site from her employer and to hide her employer from destination site admins.

Of course, those are peripheral reasons and I can see no reason why she would need to use a vpn when on her own mobile connection, at any time.

I Like Dan's process. Thanks Dan. There's a few sites that give different and copious info on an IP. Some have a VPN? Yes/no marker. Not an exact science, though.
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April 8th, 2021 at 10:51:30 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

The only people masking IP addresses are up to NO GOOD. They are doing so to hide sockpuppetry or to hide that they are not where they say they are, not matching up with any back story or claims.



Not always true. One person was for his perception of GOOD.😉

The sign said, "please dont feed the animals." They ignored the sign and got eatin. The sign shouldve said "if you feed the animals, they will eat you."
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April 8th, 2021 at 10:52:47 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I don't know about that, but I was trying to draw out the number of members are using VPN's right now, because the answer is 1.

And when you think about that, you have to ask why? You mentioned your need for VPN's in your online gambling. That makes sense.
But why does someone need to use a VPN on a message board. The only legitimate reason I have hear is if they are from a country like China or North Korea, Russia or whatever.

Most of us here are from the US or Canada with some other international locations mixed in. Even those of us that have concerns about privacy in real life (mostly against the casino industry), because we are advantage players, there is no need to mask IP addresses on a forum. The only people masking IP addresses are up to NO GOOD. They are doing so to hide sockpuppetry or to hide that they are not where they say they are, not matching up with any back story or claims.

The only time I might log into the forums while using a VPN is when I happened to be playing at an online casino from my main devices. However, I guess there are some reasons people might want to use a VPN on the forums.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 8th, 2021 at 11:02:44 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Very Often, but not necessarily.

Let's say a member habitually uses the internet from a corporate or government network which has strict network use rules. She frequently connects to a forum and the admins identify the connection as operated by say, a specific Walgreens. Walgreens see that an employee is spending hours on a forum and get angry. Both MIGHT intercept the traffic or analyse it later.

She might get disciplined by Walgreens management or she may get harassed at her place of work by a forum moderator. So. Two valid, if weak reasons to use a vpn: To hide destination site from her employer and to hide her employer from destination site admins.

Of course, those are peripheral reasons and I can see no reason why she would need to use a vpn when on her own mobile connection, at any time.

I Like Dan's process. Thanks Dan. There's a few sites that give different and copious info on an IP. Some have a VPN? Yes/no marker. Not an exact science, though.



Funny, you should use the example of Walgreens and the pronoun "she". LoL. I am sure very random. :/
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April 8th, 2021 at 11:05:32 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

The only time I might log into the forums while using a VPN is when I happened to be playing at an online casino from my main devices. However, I guess there are some reasons people might want to use a VPN on the forums.



Sir, no one is accusing YOU of anything here. YOU are good. No need to defend anything. We all know what and who we are talking about here.
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April 8th, 2021 at 2:48:02 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I don't know about that, but I was trying to draw out the number of members are using VPN's right now on his forum, because the answer is 1. And that same "1" is on this forum, one of several on this forum, but, in reality, they are all connected. :)

And when you think about that, you have to ask why? You mentioned your need for VPN's in your online gambling. That makes sense. But why does someone need to use a VPN on a message board. The only legitimate reason I have heard is if they are from a country like China or North Korea, Russia or whatever.

Most of us here are from the US or Canada with some other international locations mixed in. Even those of us that have concerns about privacy in real life (mostly against the casino industry), because we are advantage players, there is no need to mask IP addresses on a forum. The only people masking IP addresses are up to NO GOOD. They are doing so to hide sockpuppetry or to hide that they are not where they say they are, not matching up with any back story or claims.




It is more than just the countries you listed. There is a vast swath of the world that you cannot access both, this and WOO legally without a VPN. Basically any country in which gambling is illegal (which also tend be the countries that censor the internet) you cannot legally accesses (and this site) WOO without a VPN.

And, by population (and area) this is a not insignificant portion of the world for those that travel a lot.

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