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October 20th, 2025 at 4:14:41 PM permalink
Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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October 20th, 2025 at 6:08:36 PM permalink
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Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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i just cant imagine being as dumb as you are. I wouldn't be able to create this post had I been.
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October 20th, 2025 at 9:35:06 PM permalink
I can't imagine being as much of a miserable douchebag as you are, venting from behind a keyboard since 2018. Get back to me when you have a substantive reply. No wonder your third ex wife left you.
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October 20th, 2025 at 9:49:45 PM permalink
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Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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I don't think he does anything Advantage Play related. I may certainly be wrong, but can you point out what advantage play stuff he talks about/shows?

What advantage play stuff have you learned from him?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 20th, 2025 at 11:37:51 PM permalink
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October 20th, 2025 at 11:39:54 PM permalink
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Quote: Outlaw

Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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I don't think he does anything Advantage Play related. I may certainly be wrong, but can you point out what advantage play stuff he talks about/shows?

What advantage play stuff have you learned from him?
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UX Poker, Scarab and various jump in points on slots like Rocket Rumble when they are in an advantage state. Videos are on Youtube.
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October 21st, 2025 at 12:09:57 AM permalink
I'd suggest 300X your single pull bet for most machines just for a buy-in. I'll have to look up the DG YouTube channel to see what they're talking about, but they didn't like the Gamble Smart guys. Ah, he just jabbed the GS guys at the end for the ridiculous timed lockboxes for your money on trips. There was a lot of interesting info in that video. Another video I checked out was that credit cards stay out of online gambling sites, so what works? Not much apparently.
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October 21st, 2025 at 1:22:59 AM permalink
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I don't normally insult anyone but I'm not going to take gratuitous insults as a response to my first ever question. I have to assume this is not "Heatmap's" first violation since he's been here since 2018?
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October 21st, 2025 at 2:55:13 AM permalink
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I don't normally insult anyone but I'm not going to take gratuitous insults as a response to my first ever question. I have to assume this is not "Heatmap's" first violation since he's been here since 2018?
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October 21st, 2025 at 7:14:18 AM permalink
I met a lot of successful gamblers when I lived in the Vegas Valley. I'm pretty sure none of them subscribed to paid slot advice channels. Perhaps the entertainment value makes it worthwhile.
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October 21st, 2025 at 8:10:11 AM permalink
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I met a lot of successful gamblers when I lived in the Vegas Valley. I'm pretty sure none of them subscribed to paid slot advice channels. Perhaps the entertainment value makes it worthwhile.
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For the most part, I believe you're correct.

However, if you're new and specifically interested in the variable State Advantage slot machines, there are some paid services that seem to be on the ball with all the new games and entry points. I saw one that looked pretty good, but I don't recall what the name was.

I'm not sure how in-depth they go as far as collecting data, BR ROR, etc.

I know MickeyCrimm does quite a bit of this for free, as do others. He can be found on Twitter and various other websites, such as Poker Fraud Alert. I believe he has a thread dedicated to just such a thing.
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October 22nd, 2025 at 8:58:17 AM permalink
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October 22nd, 2025 at 1:38:14 PM permalink
I'm not an advantage slot player per say however I bookmarked this site sometime ago
for some reason.

https://www.advantageslots.com/
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October 23rd, 2025 at 8:03:37 AM permalink
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Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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I will admit that I have not watched a lot of that guy (you?), but he seems like a scammer. His results do not seem typical. He always comes out way ahead. I know he is AP, but the EV represents the average. Those rare really big wins bring up that average, but he is always way way way ahead. I have seen too many instances of simply poor results IRL to think he is not hiding the bad times to sell his wares. I suspect everyone on this board has personal experience playing and observing AP states go south.

The content just don't seem trustworthy. He seems like a version of Professor Slots (this board's own "slotenthusiast") who understands the math as opposed to having issues with literacy and basic math (These are not insults; I can back up these points so they are a fair assessment of the board member).
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October 23rd, 2025 at 10:21:07 AM permalink
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He seems like a version of Professor Slots (this board's own "slotenthusiast") who understands the math as opposed to having issues with literacy and basic math (These are not insults; I can back up these points so they are a fair assessment of the board member).
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How do you know slotenthusiast [S.E.]is Professor Slots?

We had a thread about Prof. Slots and though he could have missed it and never searched for it, S.E. never showed up to comment ... nor at an article written about him , see links below

Furthermore, Prof's youtube channel and website is devoid of gambling math as we have come to know it here. He has something called "goodness ratio" that neither I nor Mission could make sense of.

I can't myself compare S.E.'s postings to the Prof's stuff as I haven't followed regular slot threads.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/slots/36690-professor-slots/#post833422
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/the-nutty-professor/ .
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October 23rd, 2025 at 1:48:18 PM permalink
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His results do not seem typical.
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If I was trying to make videos which might be monetized, I would probably cherry-pick the content for maximum engagement.

I wouldn't just want view count, but the lichen (hah!), subscribes, and comments that drive the "engagement" algorithm (and monetization).

No idea if that's how he actually does things. I watched a tidbit of a video and switched channels.
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October 23rd, 2025 at 6:04:21 PM permalink
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Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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I will admit that I have not watched a lot of that guy (you?), but he seems like a scammer. His results do not seem typical. He always comes out way ahead. I know he is AP, but the EV represents the average. Those rare really big wins bring up that average, but he is always way way way ahead. I have seen too many instances of simply poor results IRL to think he is not hiding the bad times to sell his wares. I suspect everyone on this board has personal experience playing and observing AP states go south.

The content just don't seem trustworthy. He seems like a version of Professor Slots (this board's own "slotenthusiast") who understands the math as opposed to having issues with literacy and basic math (These are not insults; I can back up these points so they are a fair assessment of the board member).
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I saw a slot video where every single spin was a HUGE winner. Posters were congratulating him on every single spin being a HUGE winner but one Poster said something like,"He's actually showing the demo video of this slot and is passing off the demo video as his actual slot play, LMAO! " 🤣🤭
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October 25th, 2025 at 11:33:10 AM permalink
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I don't normally insult anyone but I'm not going to take gratuitous insults as a response to my first ever question. I have to assume this is not "Heatmap's" first violation since he's been here since 2018?
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First I recall.
I'm trusting that civility will prevail from here out.
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Interesting that his first ever violation in seven years was to a first time poster for absolutely no reason. If an apology had been forthcoming because he was having a terrible day or something that might be believable. I won't hold my breath for that apology. And yes, you can trust that civility will least from my end. I don't attack people for no reason.
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October 25th, 2025 at 11:40:10 AM permalink
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Where is the best site about AP slots with accurate info, paid or otherwise. I've been following Desolator Gaming on Youtube and paying $11 a month on his Patreon. It's been a good start but I need more info on collecting data, BR ROR etc.
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I will admit that I have not watched a lot of that guy (you?), but he seems like a scammer. His results do not seem typical. He always comes out way ahead. I know he is AP, but the EV represents the average. Those rare really big wins bring up that average, but he is always way way way ahead. I have seen too many instances of simply poor results IRL to think he is not hiding the bad times to sell his wares. I suspect everyone on this board has personal experience playing and observing AP states go south.

The content just don't seem trustworthy. He seems like a version of Professor Slots (this board's own "slotenthusiast") who understands the math as opposed to having issues with literacy and basic math (These are not insults; I can back up these points so they are a fair assessment of the board member).
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I saw a slot video where every single spin was a HUGE winner. Posters were congratulating him on every single spin being a HUGE winner but one Poster said something like,"He's actually showing the demo video of this slot and is passing off the demo video as his actual slot play, LMAO! " 🤣🤭
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You obviously only watched the "slot porn" videos, which I'm sure he posts because it draws Youtube hits. If you bother to watch any of the other videos with entry points and the math behind them you might reach a different conclusion. In fact, I believe he has a video calling out professor slots. And most of the videos I've seen, he clearly states that he is playing an online DEMO, not trying to deceive anyone into thinking it's actual play.
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October 25th, 2025 at 2:47:08 PM permalink
alright fine i apologize. i swear my drunk brain was convinced you were an AI for some reason. An insult was the perfect soul test - to me in my brain at that moment.

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October 26th, 2025 at 4:46:06 AM permalink
Desolator Gaming says he will quit gambling for 2026 because of the new tax law with the 90% write-off on losses. He's from Wisconsin and has thoughts on their state taxes too.

The New 90% Wager Tax Rule is AWFUL For Gamblers - What You Need to Know - July 6, 2025
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October 26th, 2025 at 6:47:31 AM permalink
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alright fine i apologize. i swear my drunk brain was convinced you were an AI for some reason. An insult was the perfect soul test - to me in my brain at that moment.

punish as you will
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Thank you for having the common courtesy, common sense, and common decency to apologize. 😇😀💡
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October 26th, 2025 at 10:55:11 AM permalink
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alright fine i apologize. i swear my drunk brain was convinced you were an AI for some reason. An insult was the perfect soul test - to me in my brain at that moment.

punish as you will
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Wow! Was not expecting that. Apology accepted and thank you.
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October 26th, 2025 at 11:47:11 AM permalink
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Desolator Gaming says he will quit gambling for 2026 because of the new tax law with the 90% write-off on losses. He's from Wisconsin and has thoughts on their state taxes too.

The New 90% Wager Tax Rule is AWFUL For Gamblers - What You Need to Know - July 6, 2025


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I'm glad you posted this. I knew it existed but never took time to watch it. He's threatening to dump his whole database next year, which would be really bad if I had just spent a bunch of money somewhere for info he's about to give away for free, so thank you. I guess when the gold rush gets too saturated it's time to start selling shovels. Kinda the same thing BJA did to blackjack.
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October 26th, 2025 at 5:46:16 PM permalink
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