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July 17th, 2019 at 3:43:31 PM permalink
Of course try to tell someone who has won BIG doing this, with a friend playing first base at table minimum and myself right behind him playing all the way to max, instructing the burn hand to take hits to get rid of expected unwanted cards, that there is no advantage to two hands...and you'll have a hard time convincing me.

Supposedly this is part of what Don Jonhson did too with throwing in eye candy stand ins to take the "bad cards" out of the deck on his way to winning millions. Although - he claimed that the eye candy was also used to induce strategic misdeals from the dealers.
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July 17th, 2019 at 6:24:11 PM permalink
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Of course try to tell someone who has won BIG doing this, with a friend playing first base at table minimum and myself right behind him playing all the way to max, instructing the burn hand to take hits to get rid of expected unwanted cards, that there is no advantage to two hands...and you'll have a hard time convincing me.

 »Expected unwanted cards »
Do you have crystal ball for that, or are you just delusional ?

MDawg, please, either take a blitz course in probabilities, or stop altogether polluting discussions between adults. Thank you.
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July 17th, 2019 at 6:38:17 PM permalink
Kubikulann,

There are at least a few differences between you and me:

1 - I actually gamble. You seem to stay at home and think about gambling a lot. Why you bother to post, is beyond me, I wouldn't waste my time posting and thinking deeply about a subject with which I had little or no connection. Still, if you want to spend your time enlightening us on statistics and such when no one is paying you and you'll apparently never use any of your theories in real practice, that is up to you.

2 - I know who I am. Do you? A secure well balanced person wouldn't need to be so impolite and puerile in his language and tone. If you have a point, it should carry on its own without the need for padding it with pejoratives.

3 - Did I mention #2?

Take care.
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July 18th, 2019 at 1:04:26 PM permalink
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Kubikulann,
If you have a point, it should carry on its own without the need for padding it with pejoratives .

You donít know who I am. I gamble rarely, precisely because I know the math.

Telling an imbecile she/he is an imbecile is not enough. The pleasure is to express it in a way that makes the rational people laugh.
But it also colours up the text when you tell a not so imbecile that he/she is one.

I argue politely with my equals.
I just make fun of those who donít understand anyway.
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July 18th, 2019 at 2:40:27 PM permalink
Dude! You're making the point better than I possibly could about how insecure you are. Take it easy, no one is laughing at you other than your own fragile id. You needn't lash out, Everything will be okay.

It's not just that you are, as you put it, a "low roller," it's that your posts are a joke.

On the one hand you make posts about statistics, but according to your posts, your actual game play consists of wandering low-end casinos looking for Ä1 roulette. Why are you playing a no-win completely random game like roulette if you are so hell bent on playing only the advantage odds? You ask questions about how to count cards, but create threads about how you "Stop while ahead" after winning Ä100 at BJ and wonder if you did the right thing. Your gaming action conflicts with any of your high falutin' talk, and that you are so sensitive and insecure speaks miles about you too.

I've actually been to Hommerson and Scheveningen casinos in The Hague, so my experience is actually closer to your home, than anything you've experienced in my home country. Or you've experienced anywhere. Which is fine, as you've admitted you are even less than an "armchair player" you're merely an unemployed mathematician - who calculates the math but plays without even considering the math. ("roulette" and "stop while ahead" blackjack)

Anyway, if you'd asked politely, I would have explained that when playing a small hand and a large one, or having another player or players play in front of you in BJ, whether you direct the "burn" players in front of you take cards or not is not based on "knowing" what the coming card might be, but on the count and what cards have fallen previously especially in the sequence just prior with these data considered against what card or type of card is needed for the big player. Is it foolproof? Is anything in gambling? I'd elaborate further, but why? No matter what theory I expound or you expound you're still going to go back to playing roulette, a straight loser game, or blackjack without counting where your only strategy is "Stop while ahead." You're an exercise in contradictions.
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July 18th, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM permalink
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You donít know who I am. I gamble rarely, precisely because I know the math.

Telling an imbecile she/he is an imbecile is not enough. The pleasure is to express it in a way that makes the rational people laugh.
But it also colours up the text when you tell a not so imbecile that he/she is one.

I argue politely with my equals.
I just make fun of those who donít understand anyway.



Kublikulan,

English is not your first language, so perhaps you don't understand some nuances. You're being quite rude, but I'll stop with a warning. Please resume your polite self.
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July 18th, 2019 at 7:06:16 PM permalink
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Kublikulan,
English is not your first language, so perhaps you don't understand some nuances. You're being quite rude, but I'll stop with a warning. Please resume your polite self.

Perhaps, yes.
Perhaps also I felt insulted by MDawg. I must lack nuance not only about words. I profoundly dislike that kind of [insert word that you donít deem rude]. If he doesnít like our posts, let him get back where he belongs and have discussion with his kind.

We French (speakers) are often referred to as rude. You point to an explanation: Perhaps it is a question of language. Perhaps we do not find it rude, after all. An American friend told me, in the USA when you are asked by someone « what do you think of my new outfit? » you are to answer « gorgeous! Magnificent! Allah Alhbar, you are so lovely! Etc. » He told me how surprised he was that here, we answer with frankness. That is not considered rude to say « This is not your type » or « this is ridiculous. »

If reading and listening to drivel leads me to the conclusion that the person I face is an imbecile (hypothetical, of course 🤔) , why should I pretend that he/she is not? Why should I not warn my fellows? Why should I endure more BS? Politeness is not an efficient strategy in this case, since I donít need and donít want to have more to do with the person. Better let him know in frank terms that he is unwanted.

In summary : you Americans prefer political correctness to truthfulness. We prefer frankness to hypocrisy.

(On the other hand, we judge your president to be an extremely rude (and stupid) person. Yet his supporters seem to see him as a True American. But they go berserk if somebody says f$!# or lets a breastfeeding be seen. Go figure.)
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July 18th, 2019 at 9:22:22 PM permalink
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Perhaps, yes.
Perhaps also I felt insulted by MDawg. I must lack nuance not only about words. I profoundly dislike that kind of [insert word that you donít deem rude]. If he doesnít like our posts, let him get back where he belongs and have discussion with his kind.

We French (speakers) are often referred to as rude. You point to an explanation: Perhaps it is a question of language. Perhaps we do not find it rude, after all. An American friend told me, in the USA when you are asked by someone « what do you think of my new outfit? » you are to answer « gorgeous! Magnificent! Allah Alhbar, you are so lovely! Etc. » He told me how surprised he was that here, we answer with frankness. That is not considered rude to say « This is not your type » or « this is ridiculous. »

If reading and listening to drivel leads me to the conclusion that the person I face is an imbecile (hypothetical, of course 🤔) , why should I pretend that he/she is not? Why should I not warn my fellows? Why should I endure more BS? Politeness is not an efficient strategy in this case, since I donít need and donít want to have more to do with the person. Better let him know in frank terms that he is unwanted.

In summary : you Americans prefer political correctness to truthfulness. We prefer frankness to hypocrisy.

(On the other hand, we judge your president to be an extremely rude (and stupid) person. Yet his supporters seem to see him as a True American. But they go berserk if somebody says f$!# or lets a breastfeeding be seen. Go figure.)



What I am going to say is, I prefer truthfulness. I'm not asking you to stop calling out nonsense if you see it. However, by the rules and guidelines of this forum, and it is sometimes a very fine line, you must confine yourself to critiquing the post or the system or the ridiculous content, not the person posting it.

Calling a post ludicrous, imbecilic, nonsense, or other descriptors is not a problem. Your truthful opinion, and even better, reasoned rebuttal, is very welcome.

Calling (or implying directly) a member an imbecile is a personal insult. Whether it's truthful or not, it's insulting to the member themselves, not to what they've written. Do not continue to address another member like that.

As I said, it's a fine line. But you seem quite intelligent, so I'm sure you can discern the difference.

And, this board is meant for minors as well as adults. Please don't write any more f-bombs.

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July 19th, 2019 at 1:41:27 AM permalink
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Kubikulann,

There are at least a few differences between you and me:

1 - I actually gamble. You seem to stay at home and think about gambling a lot. Why you bother to post, is beyond me, I wouldn't waste my time posting and thinking deeply about a subject with which I had little or no connection. Still, if you want to spend your time enlightening us on statistics and such when no one is paying you and you'll apparently never use any of your theories in real practice, that is up to you.

2 - I know who I am. Do you? A secure well balanced person wouldn't need to be so impolite and puerile in his language and tone. If you have a point, it should carry on its own without the need for padding it with pejoratives.

3 - Did I mention #2?

Take care.




A well balanced person would know when his act has worn thin ....
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July 19th, 2019 at 4:10:41 AM permalink
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Calling a post ludicrous, imbecilic, nonsense, or other descriptors is not a problem. Your truthful opinion, and even better, reasoned rebuttal, is very welcome.
Calling (or implying directly) a member an imbecile is a personal insult. Whether it's truthful or not, it's insulting to the member themselves, not to what they've written. Do not continue to address another member like that.

As I said, it's a fine line. But you seem quite intelligent, so I'm sure you can discern the difference.

And, this board is meant for minors as well as adults. Please don't write any more f-bombs.
Thanks very much.

Thank >you<, BBB! for these wise and well put out words. I understand my mistake. (That is, not per se, but relative to the forumís rules.) I must not say « you are unwanted here », I should rather say « your nonsense is unwanted ». Which, by the way, is what I actually mean.

As for your so-called f-bomb, it is a very weird concept from míy European (or is it just French ?) point of view. Most of what we get to see about American culture is the movies. To us, it appears that f~§! is the most used word in US EnglishÖ 😄 😉
Again, language. We have the words « impoli » (impolite) and « grossier ». That last has three English equivalents: gross, rude and foul. (Although gross also covers « vulgaire » and  rude sometimes just means impoli.) You see, semantic borders are not identical. Consequently, we donít make a difference between rude language and foul language. We donít blot out foul words. F*&# is untranslatable because no French word conveys the horror that you semm to attach to its use. So we have come to say F*&# ourselves ; but it is part of low key swearing, like « putain! » or « merde! ». We donít make a nervous diarrhea when it is read or heard. It doesnít offend kids, they know better. Trust their intelligence, they can distinguish levels of language. They donít need to be kept out of the real world.
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