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onenickelmiracle
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June 8th, 2019 at 5:01:22 AM permalink
What is up with Nathan's Corner being re-titled to Nathan and dropping it from recent threads? Who is responsible for this being done? This totally violates the ideals of the website as I remember reading.
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June 8th, 2019 at 5:39:35 AM permalink
This would be the 2nd or third time it was renamed. I can see no reason for the rename or the dropping it. What harm was happening?
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June 8th, 2019 at 5:49:55 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

This would be the 2nd or third time it was renamed. I can see no reason for the rename or the dropping it. What harm was happening?

You're one of the ones who should know the harm(dissent). I can't think of the term, something along the lines of re-education, marxism, propaganda, totalitarian states. Maybe the site should be updated to say it's owned by Kim Jong-Un.
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June 8th, 2019 at 6:03:29 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

You're one of the ones who should know the harm(dissent). I can't think of the term, something along the lines of re-education, marxism, propaganda, totalitarian states. Maybe the site should be updated to say it's owned by Kim Jong-Un.




Maybe.

But if someone thought the Nathan thread was doubleplus ungood at the least we could have gotten the usual "this thread is closed" notification. Instead it just disappears like some BJ dealer who didn't pay his shylock.
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June 8th, 2019 at 9:33:47 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

You're one of the ones who should know the harm(dissent). I can't think of the term, something along the lines of re-education, marxism, propaganda, totalitarian states. Maybe the site should be updated to say it's owned by Kim Jong-Un.

LET'S NOT FORGET THIS SITE IS A BUSINESS. That title suggests there might be something gambling related. If someone came here looking for gambling-related stuff and clicked on that thread they may leave and never come back.

For some reason, I highly doubt there was that much thought put into it. It was probably just BBB saying FU to NATHAN. In the end, I think it was the correct move for everyone but Nathan.
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June 8th, 2019 at 9:48:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

LET'S NOT FORGET THIS SITE IS A BUSINESS.



Oh! You is a Bidnet man now? I Does it know day you know anyting bout Bidnet. Next you gonna be tellin us bout derivatives and monopolitives. U go boyee!
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June 8th, 2019 at 9:59:25 AM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

Oh! You is a Bidnet man now? I Does it know day you know anyting bout Bidnet. Next you gonna be tellin us bout derivatives and monopolitives. U go boyee!

You are correct, I have little to no clue what you are talking about. I get the feeling you don't either.

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June 8th, 2019 at 10:33:20 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

LET'S NOT FORGET THIS SITE IS A BUSINESS. That title suggests there might be something gambling related. If someone came here looking for gambling-related stuff and clicked on that thread they may leave and never come back.

For some reason, I highly doubt there was that much thought put into it. It was probably just BBB saying FU to NATHAN. In the end, I think it was the correct move for everyone but Nathan.



I didn't rename the thread. I'm not sure who did, or why. However, if you're correct about the reason, it's a very good one.

I did put it on hidden status under its then-current name, which removes it from the recent threads, but doesn't do anything else. There was a continuous undercurrent of trolling that appeared to self-escalate over several days, and a couple arguments starting, so I wanted to put it on impulse-post break without closing it. It is still available if people want to continue their discussion, but forum rules still apply.
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June 8th, 2019 at 10:42:53 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I didn't rename the thread. I'm not sure who did, or why.

Well that sucks, I was hoping it was you saying FU Nathan, I'll show you a C***.

Oh well.

Can we do some investigation and find out who and why it was changed? I'm just a little curious. It seems to me only Mike or one of the LCB Mods would have done it? Perhaps OD might have done it, but I can't imagine he would be bothered or care about something so trivial unless he was trying to earn himself some brownie points like usual. Face doesn't seem like he would even care about such nonsense or WOV brownie points.
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June 8th, 2019 at 10:49:23 AM permalink
Hold on, did you say you buried her thread so only people interested can find it? You did say FU Nathan after all.

I take it, it still comes up in the new post's thread?

I don't see any posts unless they come up in the new post's thread and then it's only the ones on the first page. As to why I was so annoyed at MR.casinogames, little games.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:00:37 AM permalink
Yeah, I can't find Nathan's Corner thread at all. This is some straight up commie censorship BS.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:09:07 AM permalink
My prediction: This poll will heavily be in support of Nathan being reinstated. I'm fairly sure most of those votes will be cast for the wrong reasons. Yet, Nathan will think, they all love me so much.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:10:45 AM permalink
I cast my vote for exactly the wrong reason.
With the corner being MIA I don't know where to post profound thoughts about everything on the Taco Bell menu tasting exactly the same.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:36:01 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Yeah, I can't find Nathan's Corner thread at all. This is some straight up commie censorship BS.



Sure you can. Just look in your own posts in the last 24 hours and click on one that says Nathan. The OP in this thread named it the same as the re-name, so just don't click on today's of yours.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:39:38 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Sure you can. Just look in your own posts in the last 24 hours and click on one that says Nathan. The OP in this thread named it the same as the re-name, so just don't click on today's of yours.



Bottom line, what's been done is censorship. Not that we haven't seen that before....lol
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:42:33 AM permalink
The ability to stay even tempered in the face of insults is the sign of a good forum member, or good citizen, however you wish to look at it. The ability to stay even tempered at all times is the sign of a good Mod. beachbumbabs seems to be such a Mod.

I think Nathan was removed for hurling invective once too often, no? Or was it just for repeated profanity?

I don't think it was for appearing as a repeated sock puppet; I asked about that though and noted various theories.


I think it all comes down to a bit of a Taoist / "Groundhog Day" thing - we need to go through it more than once before we learn. Nathan might have learned by now, which might be a reason to have her back. Or maybe in a year, after which she would have learned even more, we might presume.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:45:55 AM permalink
As I formerly wasn't aware of the significance of Nathan's writings, then perhaps the OP of this thread can be appointed executor of the Nathan archive. Probably requires translation into 7 languages and voluminous footnotes.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:49:58 AM permalink
Well yes, that's another way to look at it, as in "Who cares?" but given that we are all here posting today, we do care in some way or other about this issue, or at least about the forum in general.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:52:20 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Bottom line, what's been done is censorship. Not that we haven't seen that before....lol



Bottom line, I had 3 choices.

1. Give out about 4 suspensions for trolling.

2. Close the thread, which could perhaps be censorship in a twisted way.

3. Take the thread out of the recent posts lists but leave it alone otherwise. Which I did, as the least impact to the forum and members otherwise in good standing.

You're confusing serving up impulse-trolling and escalation of bad feelings on purpose by featuring it, for censorship. Those that care to beat a dead horse topic, as it appears you want to, can still do it. For now, anyway. If it continues to draw flies and stink, I will close it, along with this protest thread. I would prefer to move past all of it once people have had their say, which it seems like they already had and were just on repeat, but I guess we aren't there yet.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:55:04 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Bottom line, what's been done is censorship.



Good. We need MORE censorship in this forum. There's too much obvious trolling and B.S. high school drama going on.
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June 8th, 2019 at 11:56:31 AM permalink
I was just looking at this thread and my antivirus comes up with a notice and map that said "Your location is exposed! Please Resolve!"
It's the first time I've seen that particular notice from my AV, but they want me to buy a VPN because Internet Providers are selling data now.
Is it normal for this website to ping my location data?
I still have a computer that remains unfunctional after the last thing it did was post on this website.
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June 8th, 2019 at 12:00:20 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

My prediction: This poll will heavily be in support of Nathan being reinstated. I'm fairly sure most of those votes will be cast for the wrong reasons. Yet, Nathan will think, they all love me so much.



Thats exactly what happened when she was the leading vote getter in the Who Should Be The Next Mod? poll.

The jury is still out on whether OD has done a better job than Nathan would’ve.
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June 8th, 2019 at 12:09:03 PM permalink
The Supreme Court says that Corporations have certain unalienable rights.
Doesn't it follow that "websites" should have similar rights, yet no one here has thought to ask it's opinion.
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June 8th, 2019 at 12:41:34 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

The Supreme Court says that Corporations have certain unalienable rights.
Doesn't it follow that "websites" should have similar rights, yet no one here has thought to ask it's opinion.



Websites are people!
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June 8th, 2019 at 1:13:30 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Websites are people!



Websites are people too

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June 8th, 2019 at 1:40:26 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Bottom line, I had 3 choices.

1. Give out about 4 suspensions for trolling.

2. Close the thread, which could perhaps be censorship in a twisted way.

3. Take the thread out of the recent posts lists but leave it alone otherwise. Which I did, as the least impact to the forum and members otherwise in good standing.

You're confusing serving up impulse-trolling and escalation of bad feelings on purpose by featuring it, for censorship. Those that care to beat a dead horse topic, as it appears you want to, can still do it. For now, anyway. If it continues to draw flies and stink, I will close it, along with this protest thread. I would prefer to move past all of it once people have had their say, which it seems like they already had and were just on repeat, but I guess we aren't there yet.



Whatever, the Chinese have no defense against their censors either. It is obvious by the poll numbers that most don't see it the Chair/wo/man's way. When are we going to get our social credit rating buttons?
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June 8th, 2019 at 1:49:40 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

It is obvious by the poll numbers that most don't see it the Chair/wo/man's way.



Yeah, but what's the margin of error?
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June 8th, 2019 at 1:58:10 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Yeah, but what's the margin of error?



Plus or minus an Electoral College.
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June 8th, 2019 at 4:11:57 PM permalink
Where is the “who cares” choice. In the poll.
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June 8th, 2019 at 4:19:02 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Thats exactly what happened when she was the leading vote getter in the Who Should Be The Next Mod? poll.

The jury is still out on whether OD has done a better job than Nathan would’ve.

You must be monitoring the wrong Jury. That verdict has been reached long ago. It would be fairly hard to be worst than the WMOAT.
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June 8th, 2019 at 7:57:58 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Yeah, I can't find Nathan's Corner thread at all. This is some straight up commie censorship BS.



The communists stopped you from knowing how to use the internet? Very first entry that comes up on a google search: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=2HT8XOawE9Pc-gT4q7_YBg&q=wizardofvegas+nathans+corner&oq=wizardofvegas+nathans+corner&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i160.8043.13858..14081...2.0..0.240.3130.18j12j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0j0i10j0i5i10i30j33i299.eOmIkocoZrQ
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June 8th, 2019 at 8:14:25 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

The communists stopped you from knowing how to use the internet? Very first entry that comes up on a google search: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=2HT8XOawE9Pc-gT4q7_YBg&q=wizardofvegas+nathans+corner&oq=wizardofvegas+nathans+corner&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i160.8043.13858..14081...2.0..0.240.3130.18j12j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0j0i10j0i5i10i30j33i299.eOmIkocoZrQ



Thats what happens when you spend all day driving.

No time to learn how to use the internet like when you take the bus
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June 8th, 2019 at 10:02:35 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

The communists stopped you from knowing how to use the internet? Very first entry that comes up on a google search: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=2HT8XOawE9Pc-gT4q7_YBg&q=wizardofvegas+nathans+corner&oq=wizardofvegas+nathans+corner&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i160.8043.13858..14081...2.0..0.240.3130.18j12j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0j0i10j0i5i10i30j33i299.eOmIkocoZrQ



We all know that most people view the site thru the recent threads. So even if you post noone will read it because the thread will not show. It is straight up censorship.
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June 9th, 2019 at 3:28:12 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

We all know that most people view the site thru the recent threads. So even if you post noone will read it because the thread will not show. It is straight up censorship.



Agree 100%! Similar to having a primary debate on a Saturday night, when nobody is watching TV so the challenger candidates do not get good exposure.
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June 9th, 2019 at 4:00:31 AM permalink
Reinstate Nathan. 12 votes (41.37%)
I'm glad Nathan is gone. 10 votes (34.48%)
Nathan was right in her last post. 7 votes (24.13%)
Nathan wasn't harassed enough yet. 7 votes (24.13%)

Interesting

Do the 7 votes for "Nathan was right in her last post." count towards a reinstatement vote?
Do the 7 votes for "Nathan wasn't harassed enough yet." count for "I'm glad she is gone" ?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 9th, 2019 at 4:04:30 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Reinstate Nathan. 12 votes (41.37%)
I'm glad Nathan is gone. 10 votes (34.48%)
Nathan was right in her last post. 7 votes (24.13%)
Nathan wasn't harassed enough yet. 7 votes (24.13%)

Interesting

Do the 7 votes for "Nathan was right in her last post." count towards a reinstatement vote?
Do the 7 votes for "Nathan wasn't harassed enough yet." count for "I'm glad she is gone" ?



Right now Nathan has as much chance of getting reinstated as most 3rd party candidates have of being elected Potus

So all wasted votes imo
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June 9th, 2019 at 4:16:14 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Right now Nathan has as much chance of getting reinstated as most 3rd party candidates have of being elected Potus

So all wasted votes imo

You just need to sell one of your helicopters and buy the site and then reinstate her.


I would assume The Most Feared Secretive Well known AP On The East Coast could afford it.
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June 9th, 2019 at 4:29:15 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You just need to sell one of your helicopters and buy the site and then reinstate her.


I would assume The Most Feared Secretive Well known AP On The East Coast could afford it.



People seem to confuse fear with wealth.

I pull so much money out of casinos they fear me more than anyone on the East coast

Nonetheless I still am not purchasing any helicopters

HINT: with dozens of people working for me and making their living from my operations the amount I pull from casinos is not the amount that winds up in my pocket alone.

But the casinos just see the full amount. And that is... something to be feared
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June 9th, 2019 at 5:50:21 AM permalink
I used to think that a degree in mathematics might be required to fully comprehend and appreciate the WoV forums - but I'm slowly coming to the realization that an advanced degree in psychology would probably be more appropriate.
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June 9th, 2019 at 6:11:02 AM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

I used to think that a degree in mathematics might be required to fully comprehend and appreciate the WoV forums - but I'm slowly coming to the realization that an advanced degree in psychology would probably be more appropriate.



Puckerbutt,

Now that's funny... thanks for the morning laugh!

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June 9th, 2019 at 6:19:51 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Where is the “who cares” choice. In the poll.

It's right next to the free beers. Unfortunately the bigot option has become unpopular, so I forgot to use it.
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June 9th, 2019 at 6:24:31 AM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

I used to think that a degree in mathematics might be required to fully comprehend and appreciate the WoV forums - but I'm slowly coming to the realization that an advanced degree in psychology would probably be more appropriate.



There appears to be a pattern, but the challenge is to figure out what the pattern means. I’ve decided that the pattern is real, but the meaning is random.
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June 9th, 2019 at 8:24:48 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Reinstate Nathan. 12 votes (41.37%)
I'm glad Nathan is gone. 10 votes (34.48%)
Nathan was right in her last post. 7 votes (24.13%)
Nathan wasn't harassed enough yet. 7 votes (24.13%)

Interesting

Do the 7 votes for "Nathan was right in her last post." count towards a reinstatement vote?
Do the 7 votes for "Nathan wasn't harassed enough yet." count for "I'm glad she is gone" ?



Even the poll is gaffed against Nathan. "I'm glad Nathan is gone" only truly represents 26% of the actual vote. I'm thinking there were 7 votes for Nathan was right and whoever gaffed it just had it add to the wasn't harassed enough yet. Just more harassment of Nathan, even in her absence.
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June 9th, 2019 at 8:42:43 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

People seem to confuse fear with wealth.

I pull so much money out of casinos they fear me more than anyone on the East coast

Nonetheless I still am not purchasing any helicopters

HINT: with dozens of people working for me and making their living from my operations the amount I pull from casinos is not the amount that winds up in my pocket alone.

But the casinos just see the full amount. And that is... something to be feared



Not a big fan of trusting people who it appears never worked a regular job a day in their life. Not those who want others to know how much they are making. Much easier to believe inthose who earn trust and respect quietly.

But congratulations for “employing” others and helping Trumps economy grow. I must of missed where you thanked him for your large tax cut last year. I know your accountant had to show you how much you saved with the 18 rates versus 17. Along with the addition deductions for new hires, if you added staff, you saved a good amount. And if you feel you didn’t pay enough, you can always donate to the treasury.

And YES, I know the Trump comparisons are coming.
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June 9th, 2019 at 9:08:14 AM permalink
Just find it amazing 14 people want to reinstate a troll.
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June 9th, 2019 at 9:34:22 AM permalink
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Just find it amazing 14 people want to reinstate a troll.


50 million people voted for Trump... enough said.
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June 9th, 2019 at 9:37:20 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Not a big fan of trusting people who it appears never worked a regular job a day in their life. Not those who want others to know how much they are making. Much easier to believe inthose who earn trust and respect quietly.

But congratulations for “employing” others and helping Trumps economy grow. I must of missed where you thanked him for your large tax cut last year. I know your accountant had to show you how much you saved with the 18 rates versus 17. Along with the addition deductions for new hires, if you added staff, you saved a good amount. And if you feel you didn’t pay enough, you can always donate to the treasury.

And YES, I know the Trump comparisons are coming.



You obviously ignored my Darkoz History thread if you believe I never worked a regular day job in my life

I think 15 years at a regular day job including 9 for someone else qualifies

And yeah, I would not say your hero trump ever worked a "regular day job" either and he brags about his wealth all the time

So as usual your arguments go down the toilet

Or do we take you at your word that you dont trust someone like Donald Trump?
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June 9th, 2019 at 9:38:59 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You obviously ignored my Darkoz History thread if you believe I never worked a regular day job in my life

I think 15 years at a regular day job including 9 for someone else qualifies

And yeah, I would not say your hero trump ever worked a "regular day job" either and he brags about his wealth all the time

So as usual your arguments go down the toilet

Or do we take you at your word that you dont trust someone like Donald Trump?



No comment on all the tax savings you benefited from last year? Not even a little Thank You to our incredible President?
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June 9th, 2019 at 9:41:32 AM permalink
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50 million people voted for Trump... enough said.



Coming from a land of criminals that are trying to steal the NBA Championship, that’s harsh.
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June 9th, 2019 at 10:07:53 AM permalink
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Coming from a land of criminals that are trying to steal the NBA Championship, that’s harsh.


Lol in my defence I hate the Raptors.
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