I want to quit smoking but I really don't
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Quitting means no more. Patches, lozenges, vape juice with nicotine, or anything with nicotine is not quitting. Sort of like a junkie on methadone. You're just stringing yourself along.
I smoked for 25-30 years and decided it was not sustainable for another 30.
You have to just get your head right and reject them. The first week is rough. The second is the worse. By the end of the 3rd it is purely mental. Find something to occupy your time.
After 6 weeks there should be no problems at all. Especially, if you start exercising.
You have to want to do it.
Quote: MaxPenIf you want to quit. QUIT..
You have to want to do it.
In a nutshell, that's it. If you really want
to quit, you'll always find a way. Most
want to play at quitting so they can
feel proactive and keep smoking.
Smoking irreversibly ages you. You’ve already done permanent irreversible damage to your muscles, including your heart, harmed or permanently damaged nearly every organ in your body, weakened your bones, stiffened your arteries and permanently changed your DNA.
On top of that, you really stink.
Why stop now?
Quote: onenickelmiracleNobody ever wants to quit anything they get some minuscule benefit from. I recently did quit for a long time for me, for the first time in over a decade, but I have not been able to restart again for any amount of time. The reason I had to stop quitting was because I was violating the recommendations and was using both lozenges and a patch, and the body rejected this idea with some unpleasant side effects I ultimately didn't think I would survive if I kept going. I kept pondering how I would taper down and what my plan would be, but couldn't envision it, and I think that hurt me. I knew I did not want to resort to a stupid trick of having to put something in my mouth for the rest of my life(deny your kids that bottle), so thought the lozenges would have to go before the patch. I was also losing my temper, but as it turned out, my temper was supposed to be lost, that was unavoidable and necessary in a way. I like whom I am not smoking, I'm more aggressive and akin to taking initiative instead of procrastinating, when smoking it's very common to just symbolically place these emotions inside a smoke and swallow them in, kind of suppressing the ideas in the brain. These things might be not the same for everyone, but it's how it feels for me.
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I just like to sit and think and when I’m not smoking I’m a crazy nut who can’t sleep or sit still for the life of me
Although I voted to quit because I’ve spent more time thinking than acting and producing
With all due respect, I think hypnosis is total BS. I Wonder if it's like a placebo effect, you think it works and that gives you the extra will power needed to stop?Quote: rsactuaryI used hypnosis to quit and haven't had a cigarette in 20 years. Good luck, you can do it.. and it gets easier the longer you can go without.
Please share your experience with this. Did you no longer want a cigarette right after you used hypnosis?
If it really works why isn't everyone doing it? You would think insurance companies would pay for this and doctors would suggest it. Why don't they suggest using it for alcohol, pain meds, crack and heroin?
Ya, Ya, I know, you have to be open to it or it wont work and all that Jazz. Just like all the other phony baloney stuff.
Quote: AxelWolfWith all due respect, I think hypnosis is total BS. I Wonder if it's like a placebo effect, you think it works and that gives you the extra will power needed to stop?
Please share your experience with this. Did you no longer want a cigarette right after you used hypnosis?
If it really works why isn't everyone doing it? You would think insurance companies would pay for this and doctors would suggest it. Why don't they suggest using it for alcohol, pain meds, crack and heroin?
Ya, Ya, I know, you have to be open to it or it wont work and all that Jazz. Just like all the other phony baloney stuff.
did I want a cigarette right after hypnosis? you bet I did! But what surprised me is that the hypnotist put unpleasant images into our heads that he wanted us to think about if we were to grab a cigarette... and it worked! That became the deterrent to keep me from smoking.
All I offered up here was what worked for me.
And I appreciate it.Quote: rsactuarydid I want a cigarette right after hypnosis? you bet I did! But what surprised me is that the hypnotist put unpleasant images into our heads that he wanted us to think about if we were to grab a cigarette... and it worked! That became the deterrent to keep me from smoking.
All I offered up here was what worked for me.
It just seems to me that somome could teach this unpleasant image technique without the guise of hypnotics.
Quote: rsactuaryBut what surprised me is that the hypnotist put unpleasant images into our heads that he wanted us to think about if we were to grab a cigarette....
Images that are more unpleasant than cancer, emphysema , lungs filled with tar, yellow teeth and bad breath ?
The one that has stuck with me the most is picturing the cigarette with maggots crawling all over it. There were times when I wanted one that I visualized that image.
How many packs would you say it took before you knew you were hooked?
Quote: AxelWolfWith all due respect, I think hypnosis is total BS.
Go look at people having surgery under hypnosis on youtube. Hypnosis doesn't work for everyone, but that's always been pointed out by practitioners.
Quote: rxwinePoll for smokers and ex-smokers.
How many packs would you say it took before you knew you were hooked?
I am one of the few smokers who doesn't believe that I am hooked. I can easily not smoke for a period of time and have zero withdrawl symptoms.
Quote: rxwinePoll for smokers and ex-smokers.
How many packs would you say it took before you knew you were hooked?
Define "hooked".
There is noticeable withdrawal symptoms IMMEDIATELY. Smoke two cigs a day for two days in a row, I assure you you will have a bad 3rd day. Of course, that "bad day" is easier tolerated after 2 days than after 10yrs, but....
Tobacco is no joke, the single most disgusting drug I've ever taken, and I've done almost all of them. I'd rather find a rolled up dollar in my kid's pocket than a Bic.
Quote: DRichI am one of the few smokers who doesn't believe that I am hooked. I can easily not smoke for a period of time and have zero withdrawl symptoms.
I don't have proof, but it wouldn't surprise me that some people either don't have the right receptors for nicotine to really get addicted. I know someone else who claimed the same thing.
Quote: FaceDefine "hooked".
When you find yourself purposely altering your time for cigs. Or disturbed when you get no cig break that you expected. Or trying to smoke extra cigs before you get stuck on a plane for 4 hours. That sort of thing. Or run out of cigs at night and see a half smoked cig in the ashtray, and smoke it instead of going to bed without.
Quote: rxwineI don't have proof, but it wouldn't surprise me that some people either don't have the right receptors for nicotine to really get addicted. I know someone else who claimed the same thing.
I can see that. I smoked a half pack a day for a year, decided I didn't want to smoke that much, and immediately cut down to like 2-3 a week with zero problems. After a year of that I easily cut down to 2-3 a month, and about another year of that I was down to 5 or 6 a year. It was easy to quit after that.
buying it and having it around. If I
get a craving I can't indulge it and
it always goes away. People who say
they want to quit something but have
it easily available are not serious about
it.
Never rule out the 'big baby' aspect.
A lot of people are big baby spoiled
kids when it comes to depriving
themselves of anything. Especially
anything that goes in their mouths.
They feel majorly sorry for themselves,
like the 5 year old forced to go to
bed with no dessert.
Quote: rxwineI don't have proof, but it wouldn't surprise me that some people either don't have the right receptors for nicotine to really get addicted. I know someone else who claimed the same thing.
I've taken up various forms of nicotine for various lengths of time. Vape, dip, cigs, cigars. I generally have little to no trouble quitting. Usually what happens is that I get tired of it and stop.
It seems to be that I can enjoy stimulants with very little addiction. Depressants are another matter. I never tried H because I'm pretty sure I'd be hooked quite easily.
Quote: rxwineI don't have proof, but it wouldn't surprise me that some people either don't have the right receptors for nicotine to really get addicted. I know someone else who claimed the same thing.
Very interesting. I smoked for 3 years or so. One day I said f this and just stopped. Haven't had one nor craved one again. Hat was 8 years ago. However the struggle has been real trying to stop pop.
Quote: GWAEVery interesting. I smoked for 3 years or so. One day I said f this and just stopped. Haven't had one nor craved one again. Hat was 8 years ago. However the struggle has been real trying to stop pop.
Keep pop out of the house, that's what I have resorted to. Once or a few times a year I will break down and buy some Cherikee Red pop but limit myself to a can a day. Even then I break and sometimes have two. Which is why I keep it out of the house.
Been looking for a pop substitute. Thinking of rigging up CO2 to carbonate homemade things as a replacement. Until then I sip hot tea or iced coffee while I work. It helps.
Quote: RigondeauxI've taken up various forms of nicotine for various lengths of time. Vape, dip, cigs, cigars. I generally have little to no trouble quitting. Usually what happens is that I get tired of it and stop.
It seems to be that I can enjoy stimulants with very little addiction. Depressants are another matter. I never tried H because I'm pretty sure I'd be hooked quite easily.
I would have to ask why keep messing with cigs and vape? Do they really give enjoyment?
I get an occasional cigar. Used to, can't take them anymore. Dip is just disgusting.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI have been smoking all day a lot, double or triple than normal. I almost want to try a patch later today, I'll probably forget before I even smoke. I'm shooting for a quit date of April 26th, I'm tired of wasting good money on cigarettes and not really feeling good in any way mentally or physically because of it. After a while not because I smoke per se, but just because I tend to have a habit of smoking and drinking coffee instead of eating right, then after a lot of exertion, I wind up just mentally a little slower than I really should be, because I'm running on empty and a lot of vitamins have probably been used up in my system. I like smoking, how stupid is that? I'm telling you how they help make me forgetful and slow, how it empties my wallet, and how it controls my life, and I'm telling you I like smoking. I probably would have never gone to casinos if they weren't the only places you could smoke all you want and not many people even care. SIGH! GRR! LOL! :(
Be strong, you can do it! :D Just tell Cigarettes,"I don't like you anymore! " And fight your cravings hard.
Quote: NathanBe strong, you can do it! :D Just tell Cigarettes,"I don't like you anymore! " And fight your cravings hard.
"I'm not talking to you! I was talking to the cigarette!" John Lovitz on News Radio
What if the cigarette talks back?
Regarding quitting, almost everyone I know who was successful did it cold turkey. You simply have to want it hard enough.
Quote: onenickelmiracle"I'm not talking to you! I was talking to the cigarette!" John Lovitz on News Radio
What if the cigarette talks back?
If the cigarette talks back, check yourself into the nearest Mental Health Hospital, ;) but seriously, just ignore cigarettes. Cigarettes give Emphysema, Bronchitis, make your breath stink, your teeth and nails yellow, your clothes and hair stink, make food not taste as good,give you lung cancer, heart attack (A man named Roosevelt got a heart attack at only 44/45 after smoking and now has a scar after open heart surgery), make you talk robotically through a hole in your throat, kill you.
Quote: DRichI am one of the few smokers who doesn't believe that I am hooked. I can easily not smoke for a period of time and have zero withdrawl symptoms.
I am in this same boat, and consider myself incredibly lucky. I smoked for about a year in my mid-20s, and was able to quit with no problem. Just decided it wasn't a healthy thing to do, and stopped buying cigarettes.
Sure I wanted a cig on that first day, but more out of boredom/routine. I didn't get that feeling of HOLY F I NEED A SMOKE OR I'M GOING TO DIE. Again, lucky.
I still very occasionally smoke (maybe a pack every 6 months). Especially when in vegas :D.
Quote: WizardRegarding quitting, almost everyone I know who was successful did it cold turkey.
True. Even the 4 pack a day antique
dealer I knew in the 90's quit one
day and never went back. Of course,
that he had been told that day he
was dying of lung cancer might have
inspired him, but he never smoked
again. 3 months later he was gone,
astonished the warning on the pack
had been correct.
Quote: WizardQuestion for the smokers -- Why don't all of you switch to vaping? I know it doesn't cure the addiction, but isn't it the much lesser evil compared to toxic tobacco fumes in your lungs?
There's more than just nicotine in a smoke. Vaping's great for the nic and the habit, but it doesn't touch whatever the feen is for the other garbage. I could replace a huge amount of my smoking with vaping without issue, but there's always that little bit that nothing but smoke will touch.
Vaping chokes me out, too, for some reason. Feels like inhaling a desiccate, or working in a flour mill. I just feel... dried out on the inside.
Spend too much time in the swamp. Drop a smoke, I have 40 more. Drop a vape, I'm out $80. Smash handle bars, I have crooked smokes. Smash the handle bars, the battery explodes and gives me 8th degree burns to the groin. Smokes crush and form to the pocket. Pens crack your phone screen. I pocket carry; no room for other accoutrement.
Lastly, not interested in "lesser evil". Unless the future holds OTC heroin, I've no interest in 30 more years of gimpin' around.
Quote: FaceThere's more than just nicotine in a smoke. .
Aren't you still in your 30's? You know
intellectually that everything you do
now to your body will haunt you from
your 40's on. If you're still smoking,
you're in denial of that fact.
Your 40's are a comin, and if you're
lucky, your 50's. Although I knew
a few that didn't make it that far..
And they were oh so shocked that
what people told them in their 20's
and 30's was true. Shocked to death.
Quote: EvenBobAren't you still in your 30's? You know
intellectually that everything you do
now to your body will haunt you from
your 40's on. If you're still smoking,
you're in denial of that fact.
Your 40's are a comin, and if you're
lucky, your 50's. Although I knew
a few that didn't make it that far..
And they were oh so shocked that
what people told them in their 20's
and 30's was true. Shocked to death.
In your 20's many people have an "Invincible Complex," where they think they impervious to dying. By their 30's they start to slowly change their unhealthy habits. By 40's,they grow up a lot and change a lot of their unhealthy habits.
BULLS***.Quote: MaxPenJust a different form of administration. Your still a junkie on the patch. In order to QUIT you need to STOP not SUBSTITUTE.
It's almost as hard to use a patch as to quit cold turkey. It's still a habit change and nicotine reduction. Can you really quit smoking yourself cold turkey, can you smoke one year, then quit one year and one day later. You know you can't do that, smoking the same way you did before you quit. As long as there isn't a filter and a burning ash, I will consider it quitting smoking, whether a vape, a patch, or a lozenge.Quote: MaxPenJust a different form of administration. Your still a junkie on the patch. In order to QUIT you need to STOP not SUBSTITUTE.
Quote: AxelWolfBULLS***.
Care to explain? Are you not dosing yourself with the same drug?
When I first started, was probably less than a year or even probably less than 6 months, I quit for a week by just smoking the cigarette without lighting it. Worked for a week until I had a dream I was smoking, the buzz was so powerful, I just woke up and lit it. I was 17, I probably just rationalized, I could just quit the same way, here we are now. Might try the unlit pacifier again to go with patch.Quote: rxwineA lot of people have to find their own custom way to quit. I would flush remaining cigarettes down the toilet planning on never buying any more. Then eventually off to buy another pack. Finally I just held onto one cigarette. If I felt the need to smoke I could grab it and debate about whether I wanted to smoke. It was somehow easier to know that I could have it at the next second, but then I would think of how far I had gotten so far, and though I still had the urge to smoke, I would have to go through the whole process again from the beginning and that was enough to keep me from smoking that cigarette.
Quote: MaxPenCare to explain? Are you not dosing yourself with the same drug?
So yes, but actually no.
The patch is to smokes what rhubarb pie is to rhubarb. One gives you what you want, the other gives you what you want plus a bunch of poison.
Smoking is Pamela Anderson, the patch is any other women that says yes.Quote: FaceSo yes, but actually no.
The patch is to smokes what rhubarb pie is to rhubarb. One gives you what you want, the other gives you what you want plus a bunch of poison.
Quote: onenickelmiracleIt's almost as hard to use a patch as to quit cold turkey. It's still a habit change and nicotine reduction. Can you really quit smoking yourself cold turkey, can you smoke one year, then quit one year and one day later. You know you can't do that, smoking the same way you did before you quit. As long as there isn't a filter and a burning ash, I will consider it quitting smoking, whether a vape, a patch, or a lozenge.
I don't know. Can you?
I smoked for at least 25 years of my life and the only way I quit for real was cold turkey. Quit playing games and just do it.
If you haven't done the patch before.Quote: onenickelmiracleWell let us see, here we go again. How long can I stay mad at myself? I am furious, I have been smoking so much I am not even sleeping half as much and wake up after only a few hours tired still. I cannot sleep at all, it's like a forest fire in my brain from these damn smokes and their crack head brother cup of coffee. I'm tired of wasting dollars and dollars on these things, they do not work. I'm putting a patch on, my goal is to at least keep it on until April 1, May 1, then my goal is June 1, and so on. You know there is no intelligence in just saying to go cold turkey, cold turkey is like luck, it doesn't exist. Cold turkey is the after affect of the months and years that lead up to eventually quitting. Cold turkey is the finish line of a thought change, not the beginning. Talking about patches and gums and drugs like they're unnecessary is like saying you don't need cholesterol or blood pressure medication, because people don't need those either, they can just lead a better life, but they don't.
Be prepaid for some interesting bat sh*t crazy colorful dreams, ones you will likely never forget. 21mg might kick your ass at first. possible Fatigue, dizziness, light headedness, slight nauseousness. It might also burn your skin(suck it up, it's not that bad). If you are really harry, I hope you enjoy a good waxing.
Don't be cheap and buy a cheap brand, they will keep falling off. Seriously, use alcohol or something and clean the area real good before you put it on. If you sweat a lot you will have to figure out how to keep it from coming off. Whatever the recommended time is, be prepared to do each step longer perhaps 2x the recommend time, the last step even longer if need be.
DON'T SMOKE THEM..... cus they are hard to light. Refrain from putting them on your balls, no matter how tempting that might be (-;
Rubbing the patch hard during the 2nd step 14mg when you have a craving seems to help calm the craving.
Don't put the lowest step on as routine after the fist 5 days, only do it if you start craving a cig. Eventually you will just forget to put a new patch on when you wake up, just leave the old one on and rub it from time to time if need be, at some point you will realize you don't really need one. If you do get a sudden craving and you are about to smoke just tell yourselve you will wait 10 min. You will probably forget about it during that time for a while, then just do that over and over.
Keep yourselves busy as much as possible during this time.
You might have to do the patches a few times before it works.
I know people who took Chantix and wellbutrin and that did the trick for them. <<<Sounds scary to me.
Don't try to sue me if you end up in the ER, I'm not a licensed doctor(HOWEVER, I AM A LICENSED DRIVER, that should be enough).
Its simple. You are weaning yourself off by stepping down "a little" at a time. Weaning is proven to help people to successfully get off lots of different drugs. Obviously there is no one size fits all or full proof method.Quote: MaxPenCare to explain? Are you not dosing yourself with the same drug?
The patch will help get rid of the strongest cravings. You might go from really wanting a smoke bad every 30 minutes down to kinda wanting one only a few times a day. Obviously some will-power needs to kick in at some point until you are over it completely.
It sounds like you have that thing where you need something in your mouth all the time(no gay joke intended). I have no real advice on that. Lolly pop? Perhaps you need one of them fidget spinner thingies or something.Quote: onenickelmiracleWhen I first started, was probably less than a year or even probably less than 6 months, I quit for a week by just smoking the cigarette without lighting it.
