Theoretical (adt) question and answer thread

Since there is so much inaccurate information out there even from people who claim to know I thought I'd create this threat to answer comp questions or adt and adw questions.

Sweet! Let me kick of the first q.

Does checking out trigger a gaming day? I thought so but didn't know. So just check out before 6am right? What if I don't even check out?

Each casino is different but most WILL trigger a trip weather you check out or not- at some casinos even a one night stay will trigger two days.
If you are worried about this try selecting properties with outside hotels
It's rare but places like Maryland live. Sugarhouse and the horseshoe Baltimore have non connected separate billing arraignment hotels
This will usually circumvent the trip out

I'll contribute a question, though I'm "pretty sure" I know the answer:

Do chain casinos (such as Caesars) use your ADT from other properties when visiting a new property? Say I visit a Caesars property I've never been to before, but I've been to a lot of others/etc. If I were to run a bunch of action through at this property, would I then carry a high ADT at this property even if I have a low ADT at another Caesars property?

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I'll contribute a question, though I'm "pretty sure" I know the answer:

Do chain casinos (such as Caesars) use your ADT from other properties when visiting a new property? Say I visit a Caesars property I've never been to before, but I've been to a lot of others/etc. If I were to run a bunch of action through at this property, would I then carry a high ADT at this property even if I have a low ADT at another Caesars property?

My experiences with Caesars leads me to believe they have both an overall ADT and property level ADT. There is one property I tend to have a very high ADT and that property sends me lots of great offers. The other properties where I have very little play sends me little to no offers. I believe the overall ADT is used when looking for comped rooms on their website because I can still get comped rooms at any property.

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My experiences with Caesars leads me to believe they have both an overall ADT and property level ADT. There is one property I tend to have a very high ADT and that property sends me lots of great offers. The other properties where I have very little play sends me little to no offers. I believe the overall ADT is used when looking for comped rooms on their website because I can still get comped rooms at any property.

I actually know why this is... Caesars assigns you a "base property." This is the property you spend the most of your time/action at, and that's the property that will mail you the most generally. I've actually had a Caesars rep explain the "base property" system to me before.

That's really not accurate. That sounds like host speak
A good amount of players receive equal offers from numerous properties

Currently an associate of mine receives daily offers at properties in three different geographic regions

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That's really not accurate. That sounds like host speak...

It was from their marketing department, not a host.

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Currently an associate of mine receives daily offers at properties in three different geographic regions

I too get offers from several different properties in a chain, and in 3 different regions. The funny thing is, your non "base" property offers (assuming ADT is similar) will actually be BETTER because those properties want your action and know you're closer, or play more frequently, at your base property.

I literally had a marketing exec tell me this, and when I said "so the place I play the most, given all other things are equal, will send me lesser offers because I already play there the most?" That question was met with a "Yep." I suppose the rep could have been full of it and lying or didn't know, but it does make sense if you have a place next door to you and another place hours/states away, that the place next door knows you're "kind of" a captive audience.

Again - This assumes exactly the same ADT at all properties. My assumption would be that the properties you have the highest ADT at would send you the best mailers... and that could be multiple properties at the same time.

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It was from their marketing department, not a host.

I too get offers from several different properties in a chain, and in 3 different regions. The funny thing is, your non "base" property offers (assuming ADT is similar) will actually be BETTER because those properties want your action and know you're closer, or play more frequently, at your base property.

I literally had a marketing exec tell me this, and when I said "so the place I play the most, given all other things are equal, will send me lesser offers because I already play there the most?" That question was met with a "Yep." I suppose the rep could have been full of it and lying or didn't know, but it does make sense if you have a place next door to you and another place hours/states away, that the place next door knows you're "kind of" a captive audience.

Again - This assumes exactly the same ADT at all properties. My assumption would be that the properties you have the highest ADT at would send you the best mailers... and that could be multiple properties at the same time.

AFAIK your host is correct, but it doesn't apply to direct mail much if at all. It's specifically for deciding who qualifies for what, in extra invites/trips etc, as direct offers from marketing execs/independent hosts and not mail. Think celebrity golf invitational level, not two free tickets to Laughlin level players.

On a friends account he played exactly the same coin in at three different properties/
His offers are not the same. Nor are his home offers worse.
To be honest most host marketing even the casino Gn have no clue. It all in the pre programmed database and what their formula spits out.
Cet is more screwed up then most ...-another friends has email offers in black and white yet the do not show online nor do they show if he calls,but when he stops in they are loaded

What do you think the minimum adt to get the minimum free play offers is at Hollywood casinos? In terms of points from typical penny slot play? Host mentioned having two people at the same address screws the lowest player and this might be the problem. That's what Im really after getting two offers for two people at the same address, hoping not to lose both.

That double at the address is a crock
That has absolutely 100000000000 million percent nothing to do with it

I believe hollywood starts offers with the equivalent of 250 dollars coin in

I concur with won about the address issue

Ia it possible the host meant linked accounts husband and wife as quote same household. Maybe it got lost in translation. I kno some places link spouse accounts if requested including cet

I don't believe linking accounts effects offers

She is playing less than 250 average per trip for sure, probably in the 100-160 range. She always swipes her card at the preferred lot, always wondered if that makes an offer lower even if otherwise putting your card in anyways. During times when a spot is easy or easy getting out(no events), might just park in the regular lot. Another host had told someone else the casino counts a gap of three hours between play as separate visits. It's pretty much a locals casino, made sense for them to devalue a real degenerate that makes frequent trips in a day. If I'm there awhile not playing yet, I do make a habit of not letting the clock reset just in case, by putting my card inside before three hours have passed.

There is zero chance they count 3 hour space as a seperate trips - ZERO!!!!!! Unless it's like 4am and coming from back at 7am

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She is playing less than 250 average per trip for sure, probably in the 100-160 range. She always swipes her card at the preferred lot, always wondered if that makes an offer lower even if otherwise putting your card in anyways. During times when a spot is easy or easy getting out(no events), might just park in the regular lot. Another host had told someone else the casino counts a gap of three hours between play as separate visits. It's pretty much a locals casino, made sense for them to devalue a real degenerate that makes frequent trips in a day. If I'm there awhile not playing yet, I do make a habit of not letting the clock reset just in case, by putting my card inside before three hours have passed.

I would not trust what a host says especially about adt questions. 3 hours would b horrible if true