Looking for AP help.

Any advantage player experts able to ante up just one play for next weekend 09/17/16 at Atlantic City? Forget card counting and video poker, I’m asking for slot play AP, where I just put in the money and eventually become a winner.

I’m not asking to give up the golden goose, just pm me one play I could make any profit regardless how big or small that may be. In fact, I’d be happy to know after hours of play I could just break even and collect on comps.

I’d be happy to travel to any casino in A.C.

Wizardofnothing, I think you live in A.C. or close and I’d be willing to meet you there if you would be willing to show me just one simple play. What do you say?

Play the third machine on the left while constantly pressing on the machine's logo.

U fer real?

Quote: blackhole

Any advantage player experts able to ante up just one play for next weekend 09/17/16 at Atlantic City? Forget card counting and video poker, I’m asking for slot play AP, where I just put in the money and eventually become a winner.

I’m not asking to give up the golden goose, just pm me one play I could make any profit regardless how big or small that may be. In fact, I’d be happy to know after hours of play I could just break even and collect on comps.

I’d be happy to travel to any casino in A.C.

Wizardofnothing, I think you live in A.C. or close and I’d be willing to meet you there if you would be willing to show me just one simple play. What do you say?

I hope you are at least going to buy the guy a beer!

When all else fails... Fresh tactics... Just ask for an AP play I guess is the new way to scout for them?

Quote: FleaStiff

Play the third machine on the left while constantly pressing on the machine's logo.

llololol

To give that info would b to sink it into a black hole (pun intended) and Won will not giv u info in exchange for anything less than other ap info i am sure.

I will give u an ap play that will get u a small advantage. Take the chinatown bus from flushing ny to the sands. Ticket is $18 includinb tip and u will get $45 freeplay for it. Giv them ur email and they will add another $5

If u can manage close to 100 perceng turnaround thats a cool $30 profit

Quote: blackhole

Based on your conversation at that other site I have no desire to discuss anything with a dysfunctional compulsive liar.

To defend my comment I would need to link to several posts of his made at the other site, but that’s not allowed. So, before I get banned for an accurate observation please read his posts at GF.

From a previous post

Quote: darkoz

To give that info would b to sink it into a black hole (pun intended) and Won will not giv u info in exchange for anything less than other ap info i am sure.

I will give u an ap play that will get u a small advantage. Take the chinatown bus from flushing ny to the sands. Ticket is $18 includinb tip and u will get $45 freeplay for it. Giv them ur email and they will add another $5

If u can manage close to 100 perceng turnaround thats a cool $30 profit

Stick grandma on the bus, have her do two roundtrips a day and you generate a cool $420 a week and get the old bat out of your hair twelve hours a day.

Quote: Wizardofnothing

From a previous post

Oops.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Oops.

double posted plus added some more below

Quote: beachbumbabs

Oops.

Oops what???? I have no problem meeting up with WON in person. I'm certainly not intimidated by you or your Oops comment nor anything said on these forums. So, not sure what your point is with the Oops.

Grown men are beyond behaving like your childish comment.

Quote: blackhole

Oops what???? I have no problem meeting up with WON in person. I'm certainly not intimidated by you or your Oops comment nor anything said on these forums. So, not sure what your point is with the Oops.

Grown men are beyond behaving like your childish comment.

I was laughing at the situation, not you. I suspect WoN will get over it.

I'm a big boy I can take what I dish out

Quote: blackhole

Oops what????

FYI I'm not avoiding your question in the other thread, I just seen it last night. I was actually in the middle of commenting when my phone went dead. I wanted to give a detailed friendly response.
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I'm assuming that her comment was referring to the fact that you are asking for help from someone you verbally attacked. You have been very rude and disrespectful to towards a few of us advantage players both here and on the GF forum, basically calling AP's full of sh*t and other derogatory remarks, you suggested it's not even possible or very profitable. Wasn't it you that said...."the vast majority of Advantage Players have serious mental disorders?"

I'm not saying anyone should be spiteful and not help you, but perhaps you can understand going from that to directly asking for help might be meet with some resistance.

Quote: blackhole

Oops what???? I have no problem meeting up with WON in person. I'm certainly not intimidated by you or your Oops comment nor anything said on these forums. So, not sure what your point is with the Oops.

Grown men are beyond behaving like your childish comment.

I, for one, absolutely HATE the way those childish comments behave. Shame on them!

Quote: Joeshlabotnik

I, for one, absolutely HATE the way those childish comments behave. Shame on them!

Wow, impressive clever post. Hopefully most here will understand what I meant with my not so perfect comment. I'll be more careful next time I try to make a point. Thanks.

Quote: AxelWolf

FYI I'm not avoiding your question in the other thread, I just seen it last night. I was actually in the middle of commenting when my phone went dead. I wanted to give a detailed friendly response.
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I'm assuming that her comment was referring to the fact that you are asking for help from someone you verbally attacked. You have been very rude and disrespectful to towards a few of us advantage players both here and on the GF forum, basically calling AP's full of sh*t and other derogatory remarks, you suggested it's not even possible or very profitable. Wasn't it you that said...."the vast majority of Advantage Players have serious mental disorders?"

I'm not saying anyone should be spiteful and not help you, but perhaps you can understand going from that to directly asking for help might be meet with some resistance.

In order to get all the facts correct here simply start by re-reading my posts starting from my first post up to my first banning. I never insulted or verbally attacked anyone. I had great doubts about AP’s and challenged the alleged claims at every corner. Once we concluded that all proof of AP plays was off the table (for personal income protection) I then challenged the everyday lifestyle of a pro AP simply out of curiosity similar to a reporter doing an interview. Even this was met with residence regardless of the fact any answers would all be anonymous. Still, just about all questions and doubts I have about anything relating to AP’ing are still un-confirmed even today.

The only conclusion all this discussion of AP has come to (at least on this site) is that we have to except what we’re being told anonymously by AP’s or get banned.

I compared AP’ing to collecting deposit bottles which put both you and WON into a tail spin which I quickly apologized for, realizing that comment was going to be used for the insulting claim tactic to get me banned obviously to stop my challenges. Of course BBB followed through with this immediate ban without even a warning and said:

“ Personal insult. 3 days.

Edit: after discussion with another mod, and review of all his posts, Blackhole has made multiple attacks on more members than just Axel. Martingaling to 30 days. No personal attacks here.”

The bottle deposit comparison was taken out of context and was nothing more than me using that as a metaphor. Her claim of multiple attacks was baseless and I challenge her to list these attacks even today. Remember, 30 days and not even a warning.

As far as the GF forum goes, that’s like being on another planet when compared to here. Personalities appear completely different when people can say freely whatever is truly on their minds, and the content is not being controlled by an iron fist.

I’m not looking to become an AP’er. I thought it would be interesting throwing the question out there since I’m going next weekend. Maybe someone will through me some cheap unimportant play just so I could experience walking into a casino and becoming a guaranteed winner regardless of how small. Even better yet without any explanation of why a game was chosen someone could meet me there and just let me watch them walk up to a machine and eventually become a winner. Of course I don’t expect to watch someone put in 40k to get back 40K and some free play.

So far Micky Crimm is looking into a play for me, and there’s a chance I might get to meet someone from here.

Quote: AxelWolf

FYI I'm not avoiding your question in the other thread, I just seen it last night. I was actually in the middle of commenting when my phone went dead. I wanted to give a detailed friendly response.

I'm still interested in your response. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/26770-on-line-gambling/3/#post551736

You sure didn't take a good approach as being a "reporter", more of an interrogator. Instead of asking questions, you hurled accusations. The first thing you wrote on this forum:

Quote: blackhole

Reading through threads like this one is a perfect chance to expose the myths of the AP.

Very few plays are truly guaranteed money. ie: It's IMPOSSIBLE to lose.

Some are damn-near guaranteed money. ie: After a short period of time of play you have a huge chance of coming out ahead (like 99%) and a tiny chance of losing.

But, most plays have an element of risk. ie: You get a 4% advantage on a VP game -- you can go quite a while before showing a profit -- and go a very long time before you have an excellent chance of being ahead.


A play isn't necessarily something you can just "go do" easily and quickly. Typically, a play will last for a period of time (from a few days to several months)....you don't make money immediately playing; you make your money months down the road. I played something a few days ago and I don't expect a profit until the beginning of December.



I see no reason for anyone to help you and I hope no one does.

Quote: blackhole

In order to get all the facts correct here simply start by re-reading my posts starting from my first post up to my first banning. I never insulted or verbally attacked anyone. I had great doubts about AP’s and challenged the alleged claims at every corner. Once we concluded that all proof of AP plays was off the table (for personal income protection) I then challenged the everyday lifestyle of a pro AP simply out of curiosity similar to a reporter doing an interview. Even this was met with residence regardless of the fact any answers would all be anonymous. Still just about all questions and doubts I have about anything relating to AP’ing are still un-confirmed even today.

The only conclusion all this discussion of AP has come to (at least on this site) is that we have to except what we’re being told anonymously by AP’s or get banned.

I compared AP’ing to collecting deposit bottles which put both you and WON into a tail spin which I quickly apologized for, realizing that comment was going to be used for the insulting claim tactic to get me banned obviously to stop my challenges. Of course BBB followed through with this immediate ban without even a warning and said:

“ Personal insult. 3 days.

Edit: after discussion with another mod, and review of all his posts, Blackhole has made multiple attacks on more members than just Axel. Martingaling to 30 days. No personal attacks here.”

The bottle deposit comparison was taken out of context and was nothing more than me using that as a metaphor. Her claim of multiple attacks was baseless and I challenge her to list these attacks even today. Remember, 30 days and not even a warning.

As far as the GF forum goes, that’s like being on another planet when compared to here. Personalities appear completing different when people can say freely whatever is truly on their minds, and the content is not being controlled by an iron fist.

I’m not looking to become an AP’er. I thought it would be interesting throwing the question out there since I’m going next weekend. Maybe someone will through me some cheap unimportant play just so I could experience walking into a casino and becoming a guaranteed winner regardless of how small. Even better yet without any explanation of why a game was chosen someone could meet me there and just let me watch them walk up to a machine and eventually become a winner. Of course I don’t expect to watch someone put in 40k to get back 40K and some free play.

So far Micky Crimm is looking into a play for me, and there’s a chance I might get to meet someone from here.

I was never in a tail spin, I know the truth and I have many examples, witnesses and math and logic to back it up. As I said I have nothing to gain by proving anything, however I would be willing to make a significant wager of some kind. I wouldn't/won't be goateed into exposing stuff just to prove something like DarkOz did as that didn't turn out well behind the scenes IMO.

You can water down your comments all you want but anyone reading then can see the vitriolic attitude you had.

I'm not sure how one can separate their comments and reputation from forum to forum. You can't be a evil dishonorable person at one place at one place (I'm not suggesting that about you, but let's take someone like OAB for example) and be an angel at the other forum. Other than the language and being able to call someone a f_head I f I wish I believe I act the same on both forums.

I highly doubt MC can lead you to whatever you're looking for, not that he's not capable and couldn't find something if he was in AC or doesn't know possible exploitable slots. I just don't think such an opportunity that you're seeking is available. Yes there's some good opportunities in AC however it's an ongoing process that requires planning and returning frequently. I don't think there's some significant imitate gratification "it's a lock play" at least not in the manner you're probably thinking. If you're looking for value, or a few small situations then that's certainly doable and you could possibly pick up a few bucks.

Quote: RS

I see no reason for anyone to help you and I hope no one does.

I'm not looking for help. Regardless what my thread heading is. Just trying to find a single bit of evidence of proof. I'd be more then satisfied just to be an eye witness without any explanations or even small talk for that matter.

As far as Mickey Crimm goes, forget it. Just got a whole paragraph of curse words on the other forum.

Got to be honest here, I'm not expecting anyone to come forward with proof, and please be assured I'm not looking or asking for any help. I'm to old to be running around to different casinos. I need a breather after walking 50 yards.

Quote: RS

Very few plays are truly guaranteed money. ie: It's IMPOSSIBLE to lose. . . .

Some are damn-near guaranteed money. ie: After a short period of time of play you have a huge chance of coming out ahead (like 99%) and a tiny chance of losing.. . .

I see no reason for anyone to help you and I hope no one does.

Backhole,
If you want to go in with $4,000 and walk out with a small profit, then Martingale the $5 BlackJack or Roulette red till you are ahead by $5
Almost 99.9% chance of success.

$;o)
Oh. It's not an advantage play though. Sorry.

Quote: blackhole

I'm not looking for help. Regardless what my thread heading is. Just trying to find a single bit of evidence of proof. I'd be more then satisfied just to be an eye witness without any explanations or even small talk for that matter.

As far as Mickey Crimm goes, forget it. Just got a whole paragraph of curse words on the other forum.

Got to be honest here, I'm not expecting anyone to come forward with proof, and please be assured I'm not looking or asking for any help. I'm to old to be running around to different casinos. I need a breather after walking 50 yards.

There are at least a couple dozen people on here who could prove it to you. Heck, I could prove it to you if i made the effort. But you've stomped all over everybody from your day one on here, so I have no interest in proving it to you. Not gonna speak for them.

Yes, we have tight moderation here. That's how Mike, and now Zuga, want it. Try and find an unmoderated, or even loose forum that isn't a cesspool of trolls and invective. I bet you can't. In fact, Time magazine just did a cover story on it. And if you're foolish enough to think that the trolls in the GF lounge are giving you the straight scoop about anything concerning this forum, then you're just looking for reasons to hate it here.

Quote: AxelWolf

I was never in a tail spin, I know the truth and I have many examples, witnesses and math and logic to back it up. As I said I have nothing to gain by proving anything, however I would be willing to make a significant wager of some kind. I wouldn't/won't be goateed into exposing stuff just to prove something like DarkOz did as that didn't turn out well behind the scenes IMO.

Wait how did thingz go badly? This is the first i heard of it. I assume uvr talking about the ny ap move thread. I certainly posted that thread because i wanted to not becausr i was goaded and it had no effect on my bottom line so not sure how things didnt go well. U were one of the few people who figured it out (or at least that i confirmed thru pm)

The "Vulturing Ultimate X" thread should be proof alone.

Quote: blackhole

I'm not looking for help. Regardless what my thread heading is. Just trying to find a single bit of evidence of proof.

From reading the rest of this forum, and the associated Wizard of Odds website, you should already have ample evidence that the RTP on certain gaming machines can sometimes fluctuate into >100% territory. I have personally developed such games, and I've described as much in prior posts. If that's not sufficient "evidence of proof" I don't know what would be.

Quote: beachbumbabs

There are at least a couple dozen people on here who could prove it to you. Heck, I could prove it to you if i made the effort. But you've stomped all over everybody from your day one on here, so I have no interest in proving it to you.

I posted a somewhat humorous response to what I felt was a foolish question. Add in the invective and distracting posts and I don't think anyone truly would want to help this guy.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Yes, we have tight moderation here. That's how Mike, and now Zuga, want it. Try and find an unmoderated, or even loose forum that isn't a cesspool of trolls and invective. I bet you can't.

That is why we so much appreciate the efforts of the various moderators. If I actually ever knew of some slot machine that was about to pay off big time, I'd inform the moderators and posters such as Water-Walking-Dan who would return a penny that was not his.