Wizardofnothing
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May 10th, 2016 at 6:10:03 PM permalink
http://vegasinc.com/business/2016/may/10/station-casinos-to-buy-the-palms-for-3125-million/?_ga=1.212014356.1457741250.1445052559
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May 10th, 2016 at 8:28:40 PM permalink
The Boyd and Stations buying out virtually all competition in the local market trend can't be good for consumers
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May 10th, 2016 at 8:30:54 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

The Boyd and Stations buying out virtually all competition in the local market trend can't be good for consumers



I agree. The Palms ceased to be a good value for locals years ago, so the news doesn't bother me that much.
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May 10th, 2016 at 8:42:58 PM permalink
You think that Stations keeps it as the Palms? Pretty solid brand I think, maybe I am wrong.
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May 10th, 2016 at 8:43:19 PM permalink
I doubt it will be as bad as if Caesars or MGM got it though.
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May 10th, 2016 at 8:48:09 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

You think that Stations keeps it as the Palms? Pretty solid brand I think, maybe I am wrong.



I predict they will leave the name the same. The main change will be that they will go to the Stations player card.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I doubt it will be as bad as if Caesars or MGM got it though.



Agreed.
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May 10th, 2016 at 9:08:32 PM permalink
Horrible news.
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May 10th, 2016 at 9:15:10 PM permalink
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Horrible news.


I was actually thinking that all this consolidation has got to be horrible for AP's.
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May 10th, 2016 at 9:24:33 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I was actually thinking that all this consolidation has got to be horrible for AP's.

ABSOLUTELY.

You need different places to come up with different marketing ideas.

5 different places might make 5 simular mistakes if it's ran by 5 different corporations.


5 places ran by one corporation will not usually make the same mistakes.
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May 11th, 2016 at 3:23:59 AM permalink
I always felt the smaller corporations were wayyyyyyyy better, surprised wizard said palms had no value, I seem to remember they having some decent stuff time to time
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May 11th, 2016 at 7:07:05 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

You think that Stations keeps it as the Palms? Pretty solid brand I think, maybe I am wrong.

It's been a very long time since I have been to the Palms. I have no record of having played there since I started tracking my sessions in 2009. In fact, the only record I can find of ever being there (other than a souvenir chip) is a credit card record of spending $13.84 on "dining" there in November 2005. Yeah, we must have been living the high life to be dining at that level. My recollection is that we picked up a late-night bite at a café there, and that probably was when I picked up my souvenir, since it shows the 2005 date quite clearly.

From my perspective, the only potential "good" news from this is the slim possibility that they will change the name and offer a new souvenir opportunity.
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May 11th, 2016 at 8:16:59 AM permalink
Palms, the only casino my wife has been 86'd from. I have played very little there the last 10 years. It was a gold mine when they gave the extra 125 coins on 4k's with paycheck cashing coupons.
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May 11th, 2016 at 8:53:56 AM permalink
Mind if I ask how/why your wife was 86'd from there? =p
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May 11th, 2016 at 9:29:00 AM permalink
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Mind if I ask how/why your wife was 86'd from there? =p

I didn't know his wife got 86ed. But I would guess that she ran to many double 4 of a kind coupons.

At one time you could get them very easy and play them on the $2 denomination. IIRC at the beginning you could play 1 per shift without a problem.
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May 11th, 2016 at 9:39:44 AM permalink
Consolidation continues, particularly in the locals market. Boyd picked up Alliente Station and both Cannery operations in the last month...
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May 11th, 2016 at 9:53:42 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Mind if I ask how/why your wife was 86'd from there? =p


And which one was it?


;-)
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May 11th, 2016 at 10:00:15 AM permalink
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And which one was it?
;-)

Nice, very nice ;-)
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May 11th, 2016 at 10:05:53 AM permalink
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May 11th, 2016 at 10:22:02 AM permalink
A couple years ago if I recall correctly I was scheduled to go out there when the host called me and said don't bother !!! We just cut the table limits on every single game across the board
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May 11th, 2016 at 10:22:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I didn't know his wife got 86ed. But I would guess that she ran to many double 4 of a kind coupons.

At one time you could get them very easy and play them on the $2 denomination. IIRC at the beginning you could play 1 per shift without a problem.



Bingo!!! BTW, this was before we were together.

I was surprised how many people were running them on the $0.25 games. If I remember correctly the max bonus was $250 so the $2 JOB was the best play.
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May 11th, 2016 at 10:31:46 AM permalink
My recollection of the Palms on my single visit was that it was crawling with what appeared to be under-aged MTV fans hoping to catch a celebrity selfie. The casino seemed really small, and I suppose that was because the hotel was enjoying the benefit of celebrity associations with their day/night clubs.

I wonder what Station's is going to do with the casino space? Can it be expanded? Do any other Stations properties promote clubs like Palms' Rain or Ghostbar? $1,000 bottles don't strike me as a Stations "thing".
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May 25th, 2016 at 5:05:25 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

A couple years ago if I recall correctly I was scheduled to go out there when the host called me and said don't bother !!! We just cut the table limits on every single game across the board



For about a year, they had their high limit room closed (it looked "open" but a dealer told me they had not staffed a table in it in over a year), and they had lowered the max on BJ to $1K. Keep in mind that you can walk across the street to the Gold Coast - a decidedly lower budget place - and bet $3K. I haven't been back in there in a few months, but my host did say they have raised the BJ max to a whopping $2K now.

That said, I did just get an email offer from them a few weeks ago, which hadn't happened in a very long time. So it looks like they were trying to reassemble their marketing department before the sale to Station.
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May 25th, 2016 at 5:16:01 PM permalink
Gosh, am I the lone dissenting voice ?

I like the Palms. I like the decent drink service. I like that it's not too crowded. I like the 100.7 % DW (got 2 RF's there in one day once upon a time) and I was planning to give that a whirl again on my upcoming trip. I like the movie theater to take a break from things (saw the latest Star Wars there). I like the good lunch buffet pricing.
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May 25th, 2016 at 5:47:41 PM permalink
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I always felt the smaller corporations were wayyyyyyyy better, surprised wizard said palms had no value, I seem to remember they having some decent stuff time to time



Maybe I got put on their "no mail" list but I used to be a heavy player there but my mail suddenly became quite stingy several years ago. I generally hear much less chatter about them in AP circles than I did back when I played.
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May 25th, 2016 at 8:33:51 PM permalink
They had a big change some time ago- around the time that they capped all their max bets a 1k as mentioned earlier so could be you got no mailed or they may have changed their entire matrix
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May 25th, 2016 at 8:41:29 PM permalink
When they first opened it was a red carpet event with lots of stars. Rain was a fairly popular club way back when. IIRC they were one of the first to have a dedicated NL poker room just as poker was heating up. The Palms seemed to be popular with a mix of locals(even the older ones), tourists, young party kids and some stars.



They used to run good promotions, they had the $1 10/7 progressive, they were fairly generous with easy to get match plays and the mail was fairly good. They even had an elite level list for mail offers that gave up to 5k a pop IIRC.

The mail and promotions just kept dwindling over time. The drawings they did have seemed to favor a few players. They also had some inside help trying to foil AP's.
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May 26th, 2016 at 12:35:20 AM permalink
Comprehensive list of all my fondest memories:

  • Palms cocktail servers.
  • It was easy to park there. Probably still is.
  • Excellent recruitment of cocktail servers.
  • And they provided me with valuable car-wash tokens, which I could still be persuaded to sell to Axel.
  • Same cocktail birds?
  • Drunk nightclub-reject ultra-douche kid having cocktail tray 'accidentally' showered on him & his silk shirt at poker table.
  • My anonymous heroine, a brave little poker room cocktail server. Rumored to be available to provide informal showers of sticky fruity cocktails & condiments.

/END LIST
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